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Old May 11, 2017, 3:09 pm
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Such that it is actually searchable text - one of the important changes to the Aeroplan program in 2019 for Super Elites:

New for Air Canada Altitude Super Elite 100K members: Complimentary changes and refunds
Beginning July 15, 2019, Air Canada Super Elite 100K members will no longer be charged a fee when they request a change to their Flight Reward booking. Additionally, these members will also no longer be charged a fee to refund their bookings. These fee waivers will apply to all bookings, including those made prior to the new policy coming into effect.


Read the below screenshots for the rest.

July 15 2019
"AEROPLAN FLIGHT REWARDS: NOW WITH MORE FLEXIBILITY AND PEACE-OF-MIND"

https://www.aeroplan.com/whats_new/news_articles.do?dl=WhatsNew_WEBUP31000285_2019_07 _15¤tLanguage=en




New chart with fees in this post

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31306687-post1334.html



Older news releases from 2017 below




Air Canada "What You Need to Know"

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...d-to-know.html

Air Canada Press Release May 11, 2017

http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1135

Aeroplan News "To Our Valued Members" - May 11, 2017

https://www5.aeroplan.com/whats_new/...New_2017_05_09


Aeroplan & Air Canada update

We'd like to help our members understand the latest news about our partner, Air Canada.


https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-...id=BAN30000311

From Aeroplan - UPDATE May 31, 2017

https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-and-aeroplan-update.do


Aeroplan Saga Ends in a Long, Financial Detour:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle35080509/



August 11 2017

"We're on solid ground so your plans can take flight."

https://www.aeroplan.com/program-updates.do?currentLanguage=en&cid=008692096

"Five things you need to know about your miles"

https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en


September 19, 2017 - Investor Day Presentation

https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en


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Old Jan 8, 2019, 10:40 am
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Now the vote was to accept the buy of aeroplan from AIM, AC can start to move aeroplan in-house under their control. When that is complete, AC can announce they are really really late in their development of their own Attitude system, and decided to scrap that, and just go with aeroplan system.

The cost of developing their own Attitude system, and to transition aeroplan into Attitude (and facing the uproar of all the problems/devaluations/outages/glitches will be too much), it's easier to just continue with aeroplan.

Easier to let go of the 1.3 developers they hired for the Attitude system, than to deal with transitioning ae to a raw/problematic Attitude system.
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Old Jan 8, 2019, 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by WaytoomuchEurope
The question is, though, did AC have in its plans 2 years ago to purchase Aeroplan? Does that change the way they roll out their new FF program? .
LOL. These are valid points also....of course none of us know yet. I like to hope that they will be ready as promised in 2020 with a new roll out given how much time they have had....But only time will tell
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Old Jan 8, 2019, 1:08 pm
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Originally Posted by WaytoomuchEurope
That's a valid point. I have to stop looking at this as new. The question is, though, did AC have in its plans 2 years ago to purchase Aeroplan? Does that change the way they roll out their new FF program? Probably not. Disregard me. I'm an idiot.
There are only so many nobs to turn and so many competitors to be inspired by. The technical details may be tricky, but the marketing materials and cost/value analysis could be done in a week.
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 7:56 am
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The sale is now final, the AC press release has one piece of news - confirming AMEX is likely to be part of the program along with CIBC and TD

https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...817660106.html
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by Sebring
The sale is now final, the AC press release has one piece of news - confirming AMEX is likely to be part of the program along with CIBC and TD
https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...817660106.html
The best reward value for Air Canada flights, plus, unparalleled access to travel on over 40 partner airlines, including the Star Alliance global network.

So there are 27 Star Alliance members, what other 13+ partners will AC redeemers have access to?
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 8:40 am
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Originally Posted by rankourabu
The best reward value for Air Canada flights, plus, unparalleled access to travel on over 40 partner airlines, including the Star Alliance global network.

So there are 27 Star Alliance members, what other 13+ partners will AC redeemers have access to?
I can't get up to 40 without counting SkyWest, etc.
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
I can't get up to 40 without counting SkyWest, etc.
there are 38 not including AC and it’s regional carriers listed on Aeroplan today.
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 8:51 am
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I think it refers to all the existing Aeroplan air partners today. Check the Aeroplan website and under flight partners and you will see around 40 airlines in there, including Bearskin Airlines, Air Creebec, etc.
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 9:13 am
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Originally Posted by rankourabu
The best reward value for Air Canada flights, plus, unparalleled access to travel on over 40 partner airlines, including the Star Alliance global network.

So there are 27 Star Alliance members, what other 13+ partners will AC redeemers have access to?
Math is hard for AC. That's a separate department with a different budget. #gimlijoke
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by martyYOW
there are 38 not including AC and it’s regional carriers listed on Aeroplan today.
I know I think Air Georgian when I go for the most adventure value of my points!
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 11:55 am
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Email just arrived from Air Canada 1:52pm ET

Subject line: "Delivering on our loyalty promise to you"



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Old Jan 10, 2019, 12:31 pm
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I just got the e-mail too and am very concerned with this tidbit:
"The best reward value for Air Canada flights, plus unparalleled access to travel on over 40 partner airlines, including the global Star Alliance network"

This implies to me that there will be a big devaluation of Star Alliance rewards.
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by The Lev
I just got the e-mail too and am very concerned with this tidbit:
"The best reward value for Air Canada flights, plus unparalleled access to travel on over 40 partner airlines, including the global Star Alliance network"

This implies to me that there will be a big devaluation of Star Alliance rewards.
Dunno if I get the same subtext, but we will see.

In the meantime, we will do what we do best and endlessly speculate.
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 12:48 pm
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"The best reward value for Air Canada flights, plus unparalleled access to travel on over 40 partner airlines, including the global Star Alliance network"

why is every one interpreting that to mean

"The best reward value for Air Canada flights, plus unparalleled access to travel on over 40 partner airlines, including as lesser partners member of the global Star Alliance network"

as opposed to

"The best reward value for Air Canada flights, plus unparalleled access to travel on over 40 partner airlines, which of course is inclusive of the global Star Alliance network, who we have extra special deals with"
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 12:50 pm
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Only thing I read into that 'announcement' is that they might let you exchange a mountain of points at OLCI for an empty I seat if you're on a revenue reservation. Or similar variations thereof.

I suspect when everything is said and done, it won't be anything more than a coat of paint on the existing Aeroplan program.
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