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Old May 11, 2017, 3:09 pm
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Such that it is actually searchable text - one of the important changes to the Aeroplan program in 2019 for Super Elites:

New for Air Canada Altitude Super Elite 100K members: Complimentary changes and refunds
Beginning July 15, 2019, Air Canada Super Elite 100K members will no longer be charged a fee when they request a change to their Flight Reward booking. Additionally, these members will also no longer be charged a fee to refund their bookings. These fee waivers will apply to all bookings, including those made prior to the new policy coming into effect.


Read the below screenshots for the rest.

July 15 2019
"AEROPLAN FLIGHT REWARDS: NOW WITH MORE FLEXIBILITY AND PEACE-OF-MIND"

https://www.aeroplan.com/whats_new/news_articles.do?dl=WhatsNew_WEBUP31000285_2019_07 _15¤tLanguage=en




New chart with fees in this post

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31306687-post1334.html



Older news releases from 2017 below




Air Canada "What You Need to Know"

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...d-to-know.html

Air Canada Press Release May 11, 2017

http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1135

Aeroplan News "To Our Valued Members" - May 11, 2017

https://www5.aeroplan.com/whats_new/...New_2017_05_09


Aeroplan & Air Canada update

We'd like to help our members understand the latest news about our partner, Air Canada.


https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-...id=BAN30000311

From Aeroplan - UPDATE May 31, 2017

https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-and-aeroplan-update.do


Aeroplan Saga Ends in a Long, Financial Detour:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle35080509/



August 11 2017

"We're on solid ground so your plans can take flight."

https://www.aeroplan.com/program-updates.do?currentLanguage=en&cid=008692096

"Five things you need to know about your miles"

https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en


September 19, 2017 - Investor Day Presentation

https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en


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Old Jul 13, 2019, 9:33 pm
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Interesting. Sounds great just one small problem — there have to be seats to book.

I looked at some Market Fare tx recently. The classic reward should be 50K return (J) for this itinerary. MF was >500K (not a typo).
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Old Jul 13, 2019, 9:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Bartolo
Interesting. Sounds great just one small problem — there have to be seats to book.

I looked at some Market Fare tx recently. The classic reward should be 50K return (J) for this itinerary. MF was >500K (not a typo).
One would hope that there would be a different inventory depending upon status. Only fair for them to go after non-status, credit card folks.
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Old Jul 13, 2019, 10:31 pm
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In the last 8 or 9 months I have been able to book three reward flights at significantly better prices (both Aeropesos + $) than I have been for many years. But one of them, yet to be flown, is on the 7M8 .
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Old Jul 14, 2019, 3:06 am
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Originally Posted by Bartolo
Interesting. Sounds great just one small problem — there have to be seats to book.

I looked at some Market Fare tx recently. The classic reward should be 50K return (J) for this itinerary. MF was >500K (not a typo).
That's a very separate issue.

With the Aeroplan acquisition, the Aeroplan mile value given to customers has increased. You can see this in redemptions like gift cards, where you now need fewer miles, but it's also apparent with Market Fare redemptions. If the revenue ticket you want is expensive, MF will also be expensive. But it's less expensive than it would have been under the old terms.
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Old Jul 14, 2019, 8:08 am
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Originally Posted by canadiancow

With the Aeroplan acquisition, the Aeroplan mile value given to customers has increased. You can see this in redemptions like gift cards, where you now need fewer miles, but it's also apparent with Market Fare redemptions. If the revenue ticket you want is expensive, MF will also be expensive. But it's less expensive than it would have been under the old terms.
And presumably that's a reflection of a increase in the price that banks etc. pay for the points?
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Old Jul 14, 2019, 8:22 am
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Originally Posted by Stranger
One would hope that there would be a different inventory depending upon status. Only fair for them to go after non-status, credit card folks.
So really what your saying is let's screw the non-credit card folks who fly maybe 2 flights a year, keep their account open, keep their points pooling but don't fly enough to have status?

If you are a high status, you are most likely flying for work/business purposes, yeah? So why should the company boosting you with miles give you the right to have a better inventory?
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Old Jul 14, 2019, 8:30 am
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Originally Posted by Stranger
And presumably that's a reflection of a increase in the price that banks etc. pay for the points?
And, I'd think the fact that all revenue and profit now flows direct to AC (and not after Aimia takes their cut).
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Old Jul 14, 2019, 8:35 am
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So really what your saying is let's screw the non-credit card folks who fly maybe 2 flights a year, keep their account open, keep their points pooling but don't fly enough to have status?
I take it you mean to "screw the credit card folks who fly twice a year?" You then should be aware that it is already happening. IKK for SEs. But remember, Aeroplan is still supposed to be a frequent flyer program, not Airmiles. So yes, there is avalid justification for providiging adntages to people who get their miles by flying.
If you are a high status, you are most likely flying for work/business purposes, yeah? So why should the company boosting you with miles give you the right to have a better inventory?
That's orthogonal to the issue under discussion. That's between flyers and their employers, and it is irrelevant to the point made. Plus surely the topic has long been beaten to death. Employers can do nothing because airlines won't let them. Again because we are tlking about frequent *flyer* program. In addition, given the way many/most employers force their folks to travel in miserable conditions (lowest of the lowest fare etc.) perhaps we should have some sympathy to these victims?
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Old Jul 14, 2019, 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by Bartolo
Interesting. Sounds great just one small problem — there have to be seats to book.

I looked at some Market Fare tx recently. The classic reward should be 50K return (J) for this itinerary. MF was >500K (not a typo).
Originally Posted by canadiancow
That's a very separate issue.

With the Aeroplan acquisition, the Aeroplan mile value given to customers has increased. You can see this in redemptions like gift cards, where you now need fewer miles, but it's also apparent with Market Fare redemptions. If the revenue ticket you want is expensive, MF will also be expensive. But it's less expensive than it would have been under the old terms.
That's why instead of the MF ticket being 800k, it now only costs just over 500K aeropesos.
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Old Jul 15, 2019, 8:45 am
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Benner posted this in another forum. Thought it might be of interest here:

As of September 1, 2019, members will be limited to one stopover or one open jaw on a roundtrip award. Furthermore, as of today travel within the same continent (except for travel wholly within North America) is limited to one open jaw, with no stopovers permitted.
https://onemileatatime.com/aeroplan-...ption-changes/

I guess things are being slowly leaked
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Old Jul 15, 2019, 8:45 am
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2019 Aeroplan Awards changes announced as per OMAAT:
  • Free refunds within 24 hours of booking
  • Refund award booking within 21 days of depature
  • Reduced aeroplan.com refund fees
  • Free changes and refunds for SE100K
  • New stopover restrictions (one stopover / open jaw on multiple continent travel and only open jaw on single continent travel)
  • Around-the-world awards being cut
https://onemileatatime.com/aeroplan-...ption-changes/
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Last edited by Benner; Jul 15, 2019 at 8:48 am Reason: Left out the around-the-world awards being cut.
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Old Jul 15, 2019, 8:48 am
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On the Aeroplan News page

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Old Jul 15, 2019, 9:00 am
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Good catch, @24left
Call me an AC-fanboy, but almost, if not all of these look like ACTUAL enhancements. All at once.
Am I missing something? Skeptics can water down my enthusiasm. Please and thank you.

The free changes and refunds for SEs is pretty darn awesome. I remember some of you, @canadiancow and others alluding to this possible update.

CORRECTION: Ok, the last two points are disappointing. VERY disappointing.
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Old Jul 15, 2019, 9:02 am
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Interesting that they are using the verbiage "temporarily stopping" in relation to RTW and multi-stops. I wonder if that temporary stop will be like income tax being a temporary measure.
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Old Jul 15, 2019, 9:11 am
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@24left

I fixed your AP link in the wiki as it was slightly malformed.
I also added the graphic.

Hopefully this will reduce the expected 1,000 new threads on this, that should start very soon, if not already.
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