LON-LAS in Premium Economy?

Old May 3, 17, 6:45 am
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LON-LAS in Premium Economy?

AC experts, forgive my ignorance as I am almost exclusively a OW flyer nowadays, so need some advice for a friend who needs to be in LAS at the beginning of June.

Sensibly, he would rather not go economy on the direct BA or VS service if he can avoid it. I've managed to get an ex-DUB in J on BA/AA, but he can't afford the time for positioning.

His dates are o/b 2nd June, i/b 7th June. The direct BA LHR-LAS-LHR in Y appears to be 1383 on those dates.

A little play on Matrix suggests AC in premium economy can be had for between 1500 and 1600.

I would think he's better off taking mainline AC on the trans-Atlantic sectors from LHR rather than Rouge from LGW? The Canada-LAS service would be Rouge anyway, but books into business.

Could somebody take a look at the below and let me know (1) if these are reasonable options, and (2) which flight combinations are likely to be preferable (if any)? I don't know whether connections are preferable in YYC, YUL or YYZ, for example, or whether the service would be better on any one of those.

2nd June
AC851 LHR-YYC B773 13:05-15:00
AC1878 YYC-LAS A319 19:40-21:25

or

AC865 LHR-YUL B773 14:10-16:10
AC1857 YUL-LAS A319 19:35-21:59

or

AC849 LHR-YYZ B773 15:00-17:40
AC1853 YYZ-LAS B763 20:40-22:27

7th June
AC1856 LAS-YUL A319 11:05-18:46
AC864 YUL-LHR B773 21:10-08:35+1

or

AC1852 LAS-YYZ B763 12:10-19:21
AC858 YYZ-LHR B773 23:10-11:05+1

or

AC1879 LAS-YYC A319 14:40-18:24
AC850 YYC-LHR B773 20:10-11:50+1
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Old May 3, 17, 11:20 am
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I'm probably going to get some flack for this but if I had to choose between premium economy on the Rouge 767 vs a mainline wide body, I would choose the 767. There's direct aisle access if your friend travels alone and chooses a seat in the middle pair. Service is much more attentive as you're the highest class on the plane compared to mainline as you'll board first and the FAs will actually bother with you. I think the seats are better too.
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Old May 3, 17, 11:32 am
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all depends on your preferred comfort, but for me, outbound YYC routing makes for shorter leg into LAS after long TATL flight.

but for return, depends on desired arrival time as early arrival in London makes for getting some rest back home in the day easier.

sounds like great trip - should be interesting.
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Old May 3, 17, 12:05 pm
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Out of the three ACr options, I'd pick the 763 via YYZ. Dirty but more comfortable in my opinion than the 319.
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Sounds like avoiding YYZ altogether, given the ongoing construction chaos, might be a wise option.
I'd opt for the YYC option on both legs. It offers the most civilized connection time and arrival time into LAS. On the way home, a 14:40 departure dovetails nicely with hotel checkout time, allowing a relaxed start to the morning after your last night in Vegas, followed by an ideal 1+45 connection time in Calgary. A winning combination.
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Old May 3, 17, 1:30 pm
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Thanks all! I'll let him know the options and let him know the choices.

One further question - is there US pre-clearance on all three options?
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Old May 3, 17, 1:38 pm
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Isn't the YYZ GDP supposed to wrap up before the dates of this person's trip?
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Old May 3, 17, 1:39 pm
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From which segment?

As far as I'm aware no airport in the UK does pre-clearance. DUB does, I'm pretty sure that's south of the border and so technically that's not actually the UK.

YYZ, YYC and YUL should all do it. Assuming your friend is on a UK passport they'll need a eTA for Canada as well as the US ESTA too. And they'll be doing a Canadian customs form regardless of how long they spend in Canada.
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Old May 3, 17, 3:49 pm
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Also, if it matters to your friend, the AC YYC-LHR route has been using a 787-9 recently, although I'm not sure it extends into these dates before swapping to a 330.
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Old May 3, 17, 10:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Funster View Post
Thanks all! I'll let him know the options and let him know the choices.

One further question - is there US pre-clearance on all three options?
See links for connecting processes at the Cdn airports

https://www.yyc.com/en-us/travelleri...tingatyyc.aspx

http://www.admtl.com/en/guide/connecting-flights

https://www.torontopearson.com/Connecting.aspx#
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Old May 6, 17, 1:35 am
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I'd avoid YYZ due to construction. I like YUL and YYC, so I'd choose based on times.
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