YYZ AC Delays - Runway Construction - April 7 2017
Apr 8, 2017, 9:25 pm
#16
Join Date: Dec 2008
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The only benefits I got was changing my G fare direct flight to an indirect flight with G+Y fares. End up getting about an additional 1500 AQM.
Apr 8, 2017, 9:28 pm
#17
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Other than changing it for free, I am on my own. Unlike when I was still SE in Feb where I learned that SE always get hotel + transportation + some meal.
The only benefits I got was changing my G fare direct flight to an indirect flight with G+Y fares. End up getting about an additional 1500 AQM.
The only benefits I got was changing my G fare direct flight to an indirect flight with G+Y fares. End up getting about an additional 1500 AQM.
Apr 8, 2017, 10:42 pm
#18
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Both times they already rebooked me to a later flight or next day flight. I just called in and ask (nicely) by providing a "sound valid" reason to get the indirect option. And both times I did confirm the reason for the cancellation is indeed the runway and hence no compensation. Especially the inbound as it force me for an extra night of hotel, but they are operating this like weather related.
Apr 9, 2017, 1:50 am
#19
Join Date: May 2012
Location: BKK/SIN/YYZ/YUL
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Something doesn't seem right. Please indulge me here. I have been looking at some of the long haul flights. I have the impression that AC has a higher proportion of the delays. For example. CX flights to HKG are on time while AC flights are late. Same for AF/KLM.
I have the impression that AC is a willing participant to these delays. Is the airline getting an "incentive" to accept a higher proportion of the disruptions?
If I have it wrong, fine. I hope I have it wrong.
I have the impression that AC is a willing participant to these delays. Is the airline getting an "incentive" to accept a higher proportion of the disruptions?
If I have it wrong, fine. I hope I have it wrong.
Apr 9, 2017, 2:12 am
#20
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Something doesn't seem right. Please indulge me here. I have been looking at some of the long haul flights. I have the impression that AC has a higher proportion of the delays. For example. CX flights to HKG are on time while AC flights are late. Same for AF/KLM.
I have the impression that AC is a willing participant to these delays. Is the airline getting an "incentive" to accept a higher proportion of the disruptions?
If I have it wrong, fine. I hope I have it wrong.
I have the impression that AC is a willing participant to these delays. Is the airline getting an "incentive" to accept a higher proportion of the disruptions?
If I have it wrong, fine. I hope I have it wrong.
I would never expect a CX flight to North America to be delayed due to issues in North America, barring extreme circumstances.
Same for AF/KLM.
When it comes to AC, I'm sure they're given the option of "you have a YUL flight and a HKG flight, which one do you want to depart?". And if they choose the YUL flight, that's on them. But the delays are usually assigned to the closer flights. But when it's your hub, you can shuffle them around much more easily than when you have one flight a day.
Apr 9, 2017, 3:33 am
#21
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: YYZ most of the time
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when comparing AC to HKG and CX to HKG, I would also add that the likelihood of more connecting passengers is higher with AC, so they "MAY" delay to ensure as many of them make the flight since they know where/when the connections are due in.
Apr 9, 2017, 3:36 am
#22
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I found the info regarding Phase 2. It closes the middle part of 05/23 which effectively closes ALL of 05/23. The work also closes the northern part of 15R/33L (from taxiway H north). No arrivals on 15R, departures are restricted to B737/A320 and smaller. That should last until mid-late May, then no more construction until the fall which will be the eastern portion of 05/23 which will close the northern part of 15L/33R (from taxiway H north).
Apr 9, 2017, 9:34 am
#23
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Apr 9, 2017, 9:55 am
#24
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Maybe less issues today due to less traffic on Sunday?
If I was AC, I wouldn't issue a blanket exception and allow anyone that has any itinerary through YYZ until may to change their flights for free. I'd do it on a day by day basis.
Are the departure boards red and orange all over?
If I was AC, I wouldn't issue a blanket exception and allow anyone that has any itinerary through YYZ until may to change their flights for free. I'd do it on a day by day basis.
Are the departure boards red and orange all over?
Apr 9, 2017, 12:13 pm
#26
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New notice on AC.com. YYZ Delays not listed under the daily Travel Alerts but now its own item on the RHS of the page, leading to:
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...html#/20170403
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https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...html#/20170403
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Apr 9, 2017, 12:17 pm
#27
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: YYZ
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Maybe less issues today due to less traffic on Sunday?
If I was AC, I wouldn't issue a blanket exception and allow anyone that has any itinerary through YYZ until may to change their flights for free. I'd do it on a day by day basis.
Are the departure boards red and orange all over?
If I was AC, I wouldn't issue a blanket exception and allow anyone that has any itinerary through YYZ until may to change their flights for free. I'd do it on a day by day basis.
Are the departure boards red and orange all over?
I'm in the TB lounge now, and the board shows just 2 delays (CLT & SEA) and no cancellations.
Apr 9, 2017, 7:56 pm
#28
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 223
2.5 hr delays late-afternoon out of YXU in to YYZ today with the last being cancelled. Landed N to S at YYZ.
At least auto-rebooking put me on an early to my destination tomorrow morn (being AC, was expecting something like tomorrow eve or Tues morn).
...and in addition to asking for points at the SPG check-in (unplanned revenue night as I miss-connected), was comp'd a bar drink.
Life goes on.
At least auto-rebooking put me on an early to my destination tomorrow morn (being AC, was expecting something like tomorrow eve or Tues morn).
...and in addition to asking for points at the SPG check-in (unplanned revenue night as I miss-connected), was comp'd a bar drink.
Life goes on.
Last edited by johnston21; Apr 9, 2017 at 8:04 pm
Apr 10, 2017, 7:14 am
#29
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: YYC, Canada
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We were probably on the same flight, johnston21 - 8652? I got lucky and sprinted from the turboprop areas to my gate and made it (you may have seen me sprinting if you deplaned quickly enough). It was chaos at Pearson yesterday. Huge delays, cancelled flights, 12+ planes queued at the runways.
Apr 10, 2017, 7:24 am
#30
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 223
Yes. As I was trans-border and already off-loaded, I had dinner at Mill St instead of having to eat at the Sheraton.
Got out without delays this morning @ 6:30.
Will likely move up to the 15:30 next Sunday out of YXU.
Got out without delays this morning @ 6:30.
Will likely move up to the 15:30 next Sunday out of YXU.