Discussion of concierge pay

Old Jul 29, 22, 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by tracon View Post
Until the first time you get bumped and need to find a hotel with your $16 part time pre tax wage.
And how would a Tim Horton's employee fare any better?
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Old Jul 29, 22, 10:01 am
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Originally Posted by CdnFlier View Post
Whether or not you need skills to do the job, I would say that the fresh off the street concierges tended to be much less helpful than the seasoned ones who had worked elsewhere in the company and had some idea how ticketing, etc worked.
I had a fairly recent (two months, I believe) Concierge help me with some segment cancellations about 6 weeks ago. The plus was that his previous gig was in ticketing, so he could do his magic right in front of me. I asked him why he was now a Concierge, and he said he wanted to reduce his work hours for family reasons. So, less about pay, more about hours, at least for him.

So, I got more than a better agent/pax ratio or a helpful check-in service. But maybe I was lucky.

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Old Jul 29, 22, 10:18 am
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Honestly, pass travel isn't what it use to be, especially for Jazz employees. Due to the surcharge charged by AC, it can be cheeper to fly Flair/Swoop than use pass travel, especially if you plan ahead. (Just did this myself a few weeks ago)
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Old Jul 29, 22, 10:35 am
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Originally Posted by SilverChris View Post
And how would a Tim Horton's employee fare any better?
Tim;s employees are unlikely to find themselves a continent away from their day job because thy can't afford to get a continent away.

The travel passes are for sure a benefit, but if used in a risky way, then risky to use. Still, the option to use them and the ability to use them safely are better than free doughnuts on shift.
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Old Jul 29, 22, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by CdnFlier View Post
Whether or not you need skills to do the job, I would say that the fresh off the street concierges tended to be much less helpful than the seasoned ones who had worked elsewhere in the company and had some idea how ticketing, etc worked. The new ones were a helpful check-in service but not much else where as the experience side of things really made the experience better when things went bad. I'm a few years out of date on being SE though.
And if the majority of their requests were "my flight has been disrupted, please rebook me on AC 123 connecting to AC 456", I'd agree with you.

Sit in a concierge office for a couple hours watching the requests that come in, and you might have a different opinion on whether they actually need to know what a PNR is.
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Old Jul 29, 22, 12:16 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow View Post
And if the majority of their requests were "my flight has been disrupted, please rebook me on AC 123 connecting to AC 456", I'd agree with you.

Sit in a concierge office for a couple hours watching the requests that come in, and you might have a different opinion on whether they actually need to know what a PNR is.
I would argue that a sufficiently-trained YYZ concierge would also know that those two flights don't connect.

But seriously, folks, as seen in the various concierge-related threads, experienced concierges tend to have not only detailed knowledge of how the booking systems work, but how they can and cannot be efficiently navigated and/or circumvented.
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Old Jul 29, 22, 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by AC681 View Post
Honestly, pass travel isn't what it use to be, especially for Jazz employees. Due to the surcharge charged by AC, it can be cheeper to fly Flair/Swoop than use pass travel, especially if you plan ahead. (Just did this myself a few weeks ago)
And that's a sad state of affairs. Of course the Feds happily allow new entrants to the market (even ones with questionable business plans like Flair) to enable wage destruction. It barely worked during an era of low inflation it will certainly be worse now.

In the concierge case they are literally putting some of low wage employees out to deal with some of their highest value customers. Everyone has been largely lucky they manage to get good people but eventually the pool of skilled people who live with their family or have a high wage-earning partner will run out.
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