Standby and Upgrade List
Mar 31, 2017, 4:33 pm
#151
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Mar 31, 2017, 6:14 pm
#152
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Yes but how hard is it to figure out that when the upgrade list shrinks by 1 and J goes down by 1 within 3 minutes and it is T - 48 or less that the chances are 95%+ that a Lat FP just changed from an eUp to a complimentary J?
Mar 31, 2017, 6:27 pm
#153
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Mar 31, 2017, 10:06 pm
#154
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Well, I bet that you could still figure it out by looking at the distribution of J sales. All in all, I am still surprised they are making this data available. No matter how you slice it, total J, less upgraded J, equals something close to paid J less Y FP comp ups. And if I was WS, I would want to know that on average AC sells 2 or 9 J seats on YVR-YYZ or YYC-YYZ. If it is 2, I don't change. If it is 9, maybe I am tempted to put in 2 rows of J?
Mar 31, 2017, 10:10 pm
#155
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Well, I bet that you could still figure it out by looking at the distribution of J sales. All in all, I am still surprised they are making this data available. No matter how you slice it, total J, less upgraded J, equals something close to paid J less Y FP comp ups. And if I was WS, I would want to know that on average AC sells 2 or 9 J seats on YVR-YYZ or YYC-YYZ. If it is 2, I don't change. If it is 9, maybe I am tempted to put in 2 rows of J?
Mar 31, 2017, 10:13 pm
#156
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Well, I bet that you could still figure it out by looking at the distribution of J sales. All in all, I am still surprised they are making this data available. No matter how you slice it, total J, less upgraded J, equals something close to paid J less Y FP comp ups. And if I was WS, I would want to know that on average AC sells 2 or 9 J seats on YVR-YYZ or YYC-YYZ. If it is 2, I don't change. If it is 9, maybe I am tempted to put in 2 rows of J?
Also, I don't believe it's any secret that AC's YVR - YYZ and back (and YYC - YYZ and back) is a very very lucrative J route for them. Often times there being no R upgraded pax in the cabin on the widebodys.
But putting in J isn't as simple as having it sell.
Where are those sales coming from? Are they coming from corporate accounts? Does WestJet have those corporate accounts? Are they coming from interline *A sales? Maybe people who are hard rooted in the AC FF program. Etc etc.
Just because you build it doesn't mean they will come.
Mar 31, 2017, 10:14 pm
#157
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Mar 31, 2017, 10:17 pm
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Mar 31, 2017, 10:32 pm
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Apr 1, 2017, 10:18 pm
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Interestingly staff at YVR Intl was totally intrigued by this new function of the app. Not one staff member at the gate had seen it so there was some show-and-tell going on. (I was boarding late-ish, esp for Zone 1, no one was impeded in boarding.) For me it was doubly amusing to be at the technology forefront as I had just begrudgingly swapped my BlackBerry for an Android yesterday. 
Apr 2, 2017, 6:27 am
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Apr 2, 2017, 6:30 am
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Apr 2, 2017, 6:34 am
#164
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Interestingly staff at YVR Intl was totally intrigued by this new function of the app. Not one staff member at the gate had seen it so there was some show-and-tell going on. (I was boarding late-ish, esp for Zone 1, no one was impeded in boarding.) For me it was doubly amusing to be at the technology forefront as I had just begrudgingly swapped my BlackBerry for an Android yesterday.
Every AC employee I've spoken to who can see the list has so far refused to tell me where I am on the list. But, since I'm a SM on a M fare or higher, my chances are usually pretty good so I don't bother to pursue the information anyway.
Apr 2, 2017, 6:57 am
#165
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Cow, any chance that the order in which the list clears is not a representation of how upgrades are awarded?
Ie.: Gate upgrades require some kind of manual intervention, and the staff will have no issues with upgrading #2 if it has no effect on clearing 1, yet will not clear 1 until it's known 100% 1 will show up (connections / checked in but no show / etc)?
Because if that is the case, and I'm #9 with 8 seats left and 2-7 confirmed upgraded but not 1, mayne it's worth it to not board and wait a bit?
Ie.: Gate upgrades require some kind of manual intervention, and the staff will have no issues with upgrading #2 if it has no effect on clearing 1, yet will not clear 1 until it's known 100% 1 will show up (connections / checked in but no show / etc)?
Because if that is the case, and I'm #9 with 8 seats left and 2-7 confirmed upgraded but not 1, mayne it's worth it to not board and wait a bit?