Standby and Upgrade List
Mar 15, 2019, 10:00 pm
#617
Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: AC75 MM
Posts: 957
For tomorrow & Sunday for all flights direct or connecting, there are about 3 J seats showing in total all day, and all other seats are 0 according to EF for all options YVR-YYZ including connections. My upgrade to YOW is SOL, which is fine, as I'll be happy in my preferred seat this time!
Tough for many this Spring Break.
Tough for many this Spring Break.
Mar 15, 2019, 10:28 pm
#618
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
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Posts: 5,612
For tomorrow & Sunday for all flights direct or connecting, there are about 3 J seats showing in total all day, and all other seats are 0 according to EF for all options YVR-YYZ including connections. My upgrade to YOW is SOL, which is fine, as I'll be happy in my preferred seat this time!
Tough for many this Spring Break.
Tough for many this Spring Break.
Mar 15, 2019, 10:49 pm
#619
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Saturday on YVR-YYZ, there are 25J, 25PY, 0Y.
But a bunch of flights are overbooked, so I'm not sure that makes up for the premium seats that are available.
But a bunch of flights are overbooked, so I'm not sure that makes up for the premium seats that are available.
Mar 16, 2019, 9:35 am
#620
Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: AC75 MM
Posts: 957
I guess the default EF display must only show some possible connections then, as now I see 0 availability YVR-YYZ all weekend. I guess you're using more sophisticated means?
Mar 16, 2019, 11:35 am
#621
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EF shows what they are willing to sell, not what's available.
The subject of the thread is the standby and upgrade lists, which give actual load information.
The subject of the thread is the standby and upgrade lists, which give actual load information.
Mar 31, 2019, 2:10 am
#623
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: YQB
Programs: AC SE
Posts: 2,139
AC 129 YYZ-YVR last flight Mar30 - go to Zone 1 Board and agent goes and gets new BP with OP-UP. Did not ask for upgrade as traveling with spouse and we have exit row so really no need, although I did accept.
So checked APP and says 5 on upgrade list, none with check showing confirmed to J, although flight completely full. Also SD came to me first for meal request even though in last seat 4F , so assume no other SEMM in J.
Any possible explanation for my unexpected fortune?
So checked APP and says 5 on upgrade list, none with check showing confirmed to J, although flight completely full. Also SD came to me first for meal request even though in last seat 4F , so assume no other SEMM in J.
Any possible explanation for my unexpected fortune?
Mar 31, 2019, 3:45 am
#624
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE100K, Bonvoy Platinum Elite, IHG Gold, Hertz 5*
Posts: 2,132
The standby list for AC 127 on Friday was insane. Dozens long - no exaggeration. There was an equipment swap - we flew a 788 instead of 321. This seemed to wreak havoc with the upgrade list as well as with seat selection. A LOT of unhappy people boarding because of re-assigned seats. I'm not sure what happened. I would have been thrilled myself if 3D hadn't pancaked.
As an aside, not sure this crew was used to widebodies. The service was chaotic. Perfectly polite but entirely disjointed and out of sequence.
To the point of the thread though, the standby list was unlike anything I have seen before and I am really not sure why.
As an aside, not sure this crew was used to widebodies. The service was chaotic. Perfectly polite but entirely disjointed and out of sequence.
To the point of the thread though, the standby list was unlike anything I have seen before and I am really not sure why.
Mar 31, 2019, 9:52 am
#625
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: ZRH
Programs: AC SE 100K
Posts: 925
As was AC107 on 30MAR - - Upguage to 777 from 321 - and - - long story about upgrade list/ priority - and lost bags - to be saved for the April 6 meeting. . .
So - my bags (SE tagged J-Class) only arrived to my hotel at 01:30 - - having eventually flown on AC 127 !!! . . . (Thank you to Leslie Concierge at YVR for getting things sorted).
I was going to write my long eUpgrade priority story here but will save it for the Vancouver meeting.
So - my bags (SE tagged J-Class) only arrived to my hotel at 01:30 - - having eventually flown on AC 127 !!! . . . (Thank you to Leslie Concierge at YVR for getting things sorted).
I was going to write my long eUpgrade priority story here but will save it for the Vancouver meeting.
Mar 31, 2019, 1:13 pm
#626
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SEMM / HH Diamond
Posts: 3,152
AC 129 YYZ-YVR last flight Mar30 - go to Zone 1 Board and agent goes and gets new BP with OP-UP. Did not ask for upgrade as traveling with spouse and we have exit row so really no need, although I did accept.
So checked APP and says 5 on upgrade list, none with check showing confirmed to J, although flight completely full. Also SD came to me first for meal request even though in last seat 4F , so assume no other SEMM in J.
Any possible explanation for my unexpected fortune?
So checked APP and says 5 on upgrade list, none with check showing confirmed to J, although flight completely full. Also SD came to me first for meal request even though in last seat 4F , so assume no other SEMM in J.
Any possible explanation for my unexpected fortune?
Mar 31, 2019, 2:02 pm
#627
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It's obvious, @skybluesea - AC are trying to distract you from your seat concerns, and make you happy with them again.
I really wish you are right
but not holding my breadth.As for the APP lists, the AC transparency is worthwhile I suppose, but in this case my completely unexpected OP UP runs completely contrary to these transparency efforts... certainly if the 1st person on the list happened to be standing behind me when I received new BP, they might be surprised if they were looking an my initials did NOT match those on the upgrade list???
AC Hamsters working overtime trying to keep up with MAX changes...so who knows why this happened???
Mar 31, 2019, 4:36 pm
#628
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YUL
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Posts: 1,496
As was AC107 on 30MAR - - Upguage to 777 from 321 - and - - long story about upgrade list/ priority - and lost bags - to be saved for the April 6 meeting. . .
So - my bags (SE tagged J-Class) only arrived to my hotel at 01:30 - - having eventually flown on AC 127 !!! . . . (Thank you to Leslie Concierge at YVR for getting things sorted).
I was going to write my long eUpgrade priority story here but will save it for the Vancouver meeting.
So - my bags (SE tagged J-Class) only arrived to my hotel at 01:30 - - having eventually flown on AC 127 !!! . . . (Thank you to Leslie Concierge at YVR for getting things sorted).
I was going to write my long eUpgrade priority story here but will save it for the Vancouver meeting.
Mar 31, 2019, 5:22 pm
#629
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It seems like the standby/upgrade list is no longer useful to give a somewhat accurate picture of where you really are... especially since we've lost the lurkers and the start of branded fares.
Even though it wasn't perfect before, it was definitely reliable. I'd say it's no longer "reliable".
Even though it wasn't perfect before, it was definitely reliable. I'd say it's no longer "reliable".
Mar 31, 2019, 6:49 pm
#630
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Datapoint from YVR on Friday
AC34 (domestic) was showing completely full in all three cabins on the Standby and Waitlist App.
While J and O were full, apparently Y was wide open (due to the 2 hour delay coming out of SYD) and the list was cleared. So the app gave the false impression of not a chance to 30+ checkmarks.
Also...they do not update the number of J seats if there is an broken seat. 36 on Friday was showing 18/19 booked/checked in. I was top of the list, so at a glance, I assumed everything was fine for an upgrade, given I would have received that 19th seat.
I can only assume, there are just too many wheels in motion to accurately provide all the necessary info, especially close to flight time.
I personally try to go with the flow on all this but it was interesting just how inaccurate things can become with any kind of irregular operation
AC34 (domestic) was showing completely full in all three cabins on the Standby and Waitlist App.
While J and O were full, apparently Y was wide open (due to the 2 hour delay coming out of SYD) and the list was cleared. So the app gave the false impression of not a chance to 30+ checkmarks.
Also...they do not update the number of J seats if there is an broken seat. 36 on Friday was showing 18/19 booked/checked in. I was top of the list, so at a glance, I assumed everything was fine for an upgrade, given I would have received that 19th seat.
I can only assume, there are just too many wheels in motion to accurately provide all the necessary info, especially close to flight time.
I personally try to go with the flow on all this but it was interesting just how inaccurate things can become with any kind of irregular operation