Canada-Canada via US
Nov 20, 2016, 12:10 pm
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Canada-Canada via US
Hi FT,
I am able to book an itinerary with AC from YYT-YYZ-EWR-YVR-YYJ at a better price than a straightforward routing, however come check in time will I be permitted to take these flights, or is the routing "illegal"?
Thanks,
marke190
I am able to book an itinerary with AC from YYT-YYZ-EWR-YVR-YYJ at a better price than a straightforward routing, however come check in time will I be permitted to take these flights, or is the routing "illegal"?
Thanks,
marke190
Nov 20, 2016, 12:35 pm
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What you're describing is called cabbage. Or, more precisely, cabotage.
Although it depends on your marketing and operating carriers. If everything is operated and marketed by AC, it's technically legal, although...
Although it depends on your marketing and operating carriers. If everything is operated and marketed by AC, it's technically legal, although...
Nov 20, 2016, 12:52 pm
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What if there are codeshare flights operated by UA on the itinerary?
I'm afraid of issues when checking in at YYT, as although there are a couple of excellent agents, there are a number of less than knowledgable ones...
I'm afraid of issues when checking in at YYT, as although there are a couple of excellent agents, there are a number of less than knowledgable ones...
Nov 20, 2016, 12:54 pm
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Nov 20, 2016, 1:06 pm
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If it's a single ticket, most unlikely to be issued though, it would be cabotage and a breach of IATA rules.
As noted, given winter weather there would be no assurance of protection in the second ticketed onward flight(s) be missed due to late arrival of the inbound flight.
As noted, given winter weather there would be no assurance of protection in the second ticketed onward flight(s) be missed due to late arrival of the inbound flight.
Nov 20, 2016, 1:07 pm
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That was going to be my next question.
At the very least, I assume it's two fares, so if you just book it as two separate PNRs, then no one will even know about it.
This is not the kind of booking I'd want to talk to any agents about. Check in online, print your BP, and just fly it.
At the very least, I assume it's two fares, so if you just book it as two separate PNRs, then no one will even know about it.
This is not the kind of booking I'd want to talk to any agents about. Check in online, print your BP, and just fly it.
Nov 20, 2016, 1:16 pm
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Nov 20, 2016, 1:19 pm
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Merely passing through one American airport does not qualify as cabotage. Or even slaw.
Nov 20, 2016, 1:23 pm
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I would agree, as long as the ticket was bought with AC direct. If it was bought via a agent, then the agent should be responsible.
Nov 20, 2016, 1:25 pm
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That was going to be my next question.
At the very least, I assume it's two fares, so if you just book it as two separate PNRs, then no one will even know about it.
This is not the kind of booking I'd want to talk to any agents about. Check in online, print your BP, and just fly it.
At the very least, I assume it's two fares, so if you just book it as two separate PNRs, then no one will even know about it.
This is not the kind of booking I'd want to talk to any agents about. Check in online, print your BP, and just fly it.
I guess the other concern is customs... Has anyone had issues doing a similar routing?
