Canada-Canada via US
Nov 20, 2016, 1:31 pm
#16
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If it's a single ticket, most unlikely to be issued though, it would be cabotage and a breach of IATA rules.
As noted, given winter weather there would be no assurance of protection in the second ticketed onward flight(s) be missed due to late arrival of the inbound flight.
As noted, given winter weather there would be no assurance of protection in the second ticketed onward flight(s) be missed due to late arrival of the inbound flight.
Nov 20, 2016, 1:41 pm
#17
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Since you didn't buy your ticket with AC direct, I'm guessing you are going to have problems. You will most likely be required to buy a new ticket and take the issue up with Google about getting your money back. I would phone AC well before flight and discuss this with them.
Nov 20, 2016, 1:43 pm
#18
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Since you didn't buy your ticket with AC direct, I'm guessing you are going to have problems. You will most likely be required to buy a new ticket and take the issue up with Google about getting your money back. I would phone AC well before flight and discuss this with them.
Nov 20, 2016, 1:50 pm
#19
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Probably yet another of these AC IT fail...
Of course if someone knowledgeable enough at AC notices, OP will end up being contacted by them. And if the are smart enough, they'll just move him to a more direct route.
After all they offered him an illegal route. They are to blame.
Nov 20, 2016, 1:55 pm
#20
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Since you didn't buy your ticket with AC direct, I'm guessing you are going to have problems. You will most likely be required to buy a new ticket and take the issue up with Google about getting your money back. I would phone AC well before flight and discuss this with them.
You can either type it all in yourself, or you use Google Flights' "Book with..." feature and it enters everything for you. Either way, AC allows this routing.
Nov 20, 2016, 1:59 pm
#21
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Are all the flights marked with a X or is one flight broken?
Nov 20, 2016, 2:03 pm
#22
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Customs won't care. This would be the same as doing an MR. The time I flew into SFO from YYJ, and told customs I was connecting to YYJ, they didn't care. Well, then the dude told me about a mileage run he did on Alaska.
Nov 20, 2016, 2:04 pm
#23
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All good.
Just booked it and cancelled. $681 (Tango).
I also tried YYT - YYZ - LAX - YVR - YYJ and it works, too, and is cheaper ($493).
Seems like routing through the US on AC is fine after all, as long as you don't travel between two US cities?
Just booked it and cancelled. $681 (Tango).
I also tried YYT - YYZ - LAX - YVR - YYJ and it works, too, and is cheaper ($493).
Seems like routing through the US on AC is fine after all, as long as you don't travel between two US cities?
Last edited by Ia Ora; Nov 20, 2016 at 2:18 pm
Nov 20, 2016, 2:22 pm
#24
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via LAX instead of EWR looks better as I won't have to deal with the potential weather disturbances that EWR is notorious for.
Nov 20, 2016, 2:27 pm
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Did you look close enough to see if the fare as broken?
Nov 20, 2016, 2:30 pm
#26
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Looks like there's a fare-break at the US connecting point. Why not add an overnight stopover (if you have time) and soak up some sun in LA? It should price out the same. And you won't have to worry about delays, your baggage not making it, grumpy airport agents, etc.
Nov 20, 2016, 2:32 pm
#27
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The fare is broken, the PNR is not.
Looks like they employ degree of freedom 3 and 4:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedoms_of_the_air
Looks like they employ degree of freedom 3 and 4:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedoms_of_the_air
Nov 20, 2016, 2:35 pm
#28
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Here we go again: trumpeting hidden fares to the world so that it's only a matter of time before another loophole is closed. Does anybody recall those discrete days of FT?
Oh, wait...thinking of the Hat Dance fiasco and Trick It itineraries and the "aren't I clever" Great Cdn Mileage Run and how that ended for the original canaries in terms of tightened rules, I guess there weren't any discrete days after all.
Oh, wait...thinking of the Hat Dance fiasco and Trick It itineraries and the "aren't I clever" Great Cdn Mileage Run and how that ended for the original canaries in terms of tightened rules, I guess there weren't any discrete days after all.
Nov 20, 2016, 2:36 pm
#29
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I think checking luggage would be the issue as I expect the US point is actually the first destination and then you have a new ticket from their to your destination. You'd generally be expected to pick up your luggage at your destination and then check it for the next leg in your journey.
As suggested a longer stopover should allow you to do comfortably and likely no added cost if the same fare classes are available.
As suggested a longer stopover should allow you to do comfortably and likely no added cost if the same fare classes are available.
Nov 20, 2016, 2:37 pm
#30
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Here we go again: trumpeting hidden fares to the world so that it's only a matter of time before another loophole is closed. Does anybody recall those discrete days of FT?
Oh, wait...thinking of the Hat Dance fiasco and the "aren't I clever" Great Cdn Mileage Run and how that ended for the original canaries in terms of tightened rules, I guess there weren't any discrete days after all.
Oh, wait...thinking of the Hat Dance fiasco and the "aren't I clever" Great Cdn Mileage Run and how that ended for the original canaries in terms of tightened rules, I guess there weren't any discrete days after all.