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Old Apr 2, 2017, 9:28 pm
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Moderator note: Any questions regarding availability/fare buckets on a specific flight or flights should be posted in the fare bucket check request thread. Any such posts in this thread will be deleted.

Q: When should I use eUpgrades, and when should I use AC Bid?
A: For starters, you can use both of them on a single booking. If one upgrade is accepted, the other is cancelled at no cost to you. One thing to consider is that eUpgrade priority is highly influenced by your Aeroplan Elite status and the fare class of the original ticket, but AC Bid is influenced by your bid as compared to other people. If you don't have a high Aeroplan Elite status, AC Bid may be the better choice for you.

Q: If I use a Bid Upgrade do I get additional SQM / SQD now for my flights?
A: No.

Q: If I use a Bid Upgrade on an International Flight leaving YYZ/YVR do I get access to the Signature Lounge?
A: No.

Q: When will I find out if my bid was successful?
A: You will be sent an email within 36 to 48 hours prior to your departure.

Q: If I am successfully upgraded, which baggage limit applies?
A: The baggage rules of the upgraded ticket apply. Note that this is different than eUpgrades, where the original tickets baggage rules still apply.

Q: When do I pay for a bid?
A: Your credit card is only charged when the bid is accepted, which will happen no earlier than 48 hours before departure. Note that if your card is declined, even temporarily for a fraud check, you will lose the bid and will not get another opportunity.

Q: Can I cancel an AC Bid?
A: Yes, but only until 48 hours before departure.

Q: If I cancel the booking after successfully bidding for an upgrade, or if I miss the flight, will I get a refund?
A: No.

Q: If Air Canada rebooks me on another flight, what happens to my AC Bid upgrade?
A: You keep it and Air Canada will put you in the upgraded cabin on the new flight. If the new flight does not have Premium Economy, or if there are not enough Business class seats, then your AC Bid will be refunded.

Q: I have a flight going from XXX to YYY on DD-MM-YY and the minimum bid is $ZZZ - what are my chances / what should I bid?
A: No one here really knows how Plusgrade as implemented by AC really 'decides' which bids to accept.
There are so many potential variables that it's best just to bid what you feel the upgrade is worth to you.


AC Bid Upgrade - FAQs

If your upgrade request is accepted, the fare conditions for the original ticket you purchased shall remain in effect and will be applicable with respect to cancellation policies, change fees, conditions for minimum and maximum stay, and rules relating to the accrual of frequent flyer miles. All other conditions will be per the upgraded fare class.

On the AC website:

"AC Bid Upgrade - Your opportunity to travel in a higher cabin class"

https://upgrade.plusgrade.com/offer/AirCanada


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Old Jul 20, 2018, 1:00 pm
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Flying in premium economy, YYZ to FCO next Friday (July 27). Used Aeroplan miles (300K) for 4 PE tickets. I was given the option to "bid" for an upgrade to biz class (there was even a note saying for a limited time, they've reduced the 'minimum' bid for this particular route by 30%), so I put in a bid for each of us (4 passengers total) just above the minimum bid ask ($585 CAD). I just checked my flight, and there are still 12 biz-class seats available. Sooo...based on everyone's experiences, what are my chances of getting 4 seats upgraded to biz when the original PE seats were booked using aeroplan miles?
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Old Jul 20, 2018, 3:21 pm
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Originally Posted by ajcopley
Flying in premium economy, YYZ to FCO next Friday (July 27). Used Aeroplan miles (300K) for 4 PE tickets. I was given the option to "bid" for an upgrade to biz class (there was even a note saying for a limited time, they've reduced the 'minimum' bid for this particular route by 30%), so I put in a bid for each of us (4 passengers total) just above the minimum bid ask ($585 CAD). I just checked my flight, and there are still 12 biz-class seats available. Sooo...based on everyone's experiences, what are my chances of getting 4 seats upgraded to biz when the original PE seats were booked using aeroplan miles?
Your chance of success is based more on loads and price offered. If you do not win at the bid stage check the LMU when you checkin, preferably online 24hrs before.
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Old Jul 20, 2018, 5:47 pm
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FYI: I had bid $1700 to upgrade from economy to business FCO to YYZ on July 7 and the bid was unsuccessful.
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Old Jul 21, 2018, 12:12 am
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Originally Posted by ajcopley
Flying in premium economy, YYZ to FCO next Friday (July 27). Used Aeroplan miles (300K) for 4 PE tickets. I was given the option to "bid" for an upgrade to biz class (there was even a note saying for a limited time, they've reduced the 'minimum' bid for this particular route by 30%), so I put in a bid for each of us (4 passengers total) just above the minimum bid ask ($585 CAD). I just checked my flight, and there are still 12 biz-class seats available. Sooo...based on everyone's experiences, what are my chances of getting 4 seats upgraded to biz when the original PE seats were booked using aeroplan miles?
There are definitely not 12 seats still available, AC is only selling 4 J seats on that flight. 12 unassigned seats in the cabin (which is where I assume you are getting your number) is a meaningless datapoint for your situation.
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Old Jul 21, 2018, 1:34 am
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Originally Posted by dosto
FYI: I had bid $1700 to upgrade from economy to business FCO to YYZ on July 7 and the bid was unsuccessful.
and i'm sure the J cabin went out with empty seats despite your offer
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Old Jul 21, 2018, 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by dosto
FYI: I had bid $1700 to upgrade from economy to business FCO to YYZ on July 7 and the bid was unsuccessful.
interesting thanks for letting me know. Guess I'll find out on Tuesday / Wednesday if it's accepted. Strange though to advertise a 30% discount on this route but not accept many of the bids...

oh and I just noticed i'm reply #666 on this thread. should I be worried?
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Old Jul 21, 2018, 2:42 pm
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Originally Posted by bawm
There are definitely not 12 seats still available, AC is only selling 4 J seats on that flight. 12 unassigned seats in the cabin (which is where I assume you are getting your number) is a meaningless datapoint for your situation.
yup just noticed that myself. thanks for the correction
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Old Jul 21, 2018, 4:46 pm
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No J was full (my wife was in it).
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 6:23 pm
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Just curious has anyone had a bid upgrade offer refused and then been offered a LMU at OLCI?
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 11:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Crampedin13A
Just curious has anyone had a bid upgrade offer refused and then been offered a LMU at OLCI?
i believe there's been several instances of this reported here, where LMU price was significantly higher....surprise, surprise
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Old Aug 11, 2018, 1:12 am
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Originally Posted by Crampedin13A
Just curious has anyone had a bid upgrade offer refused and then been offered a LMU at OLCI?
As per Neil791, upthread.
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Old Aug 12, 2018, 5:45 am
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Bids are processed 3-4 days before departure. If they expect to sell 3 seats in that time and there are 3 left, I'd expect the bid to be declined.

If they end up not selling any seats, I'd expect an LMU offer, which could be much less than your bid.

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Old Aug 13, 2018, 10:26 am
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Originally Posted by Crampedin13A
Just curious has anyone had a bid upgrade offer refused and then been offered a LMU at OLCI?
Yes, I experienced this. Flying YLW-YYZ last month, bid was rejected. Offered LMU for $1 less than my original bid at checkin.
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Old Aug 29, 2018, 12:31 pm
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It appears the bid I put in to upgrade to J for my SFO-YYZ flight on Saturday has been accepted ($500USD) as I just noticed a foreign transaction posted to my Amex from Plusgrade. No e-mail from AC yet but I assume it's coming at some point today.

So, so many questions.

1) I had already paid extra for a preferred seat assignment just in case the bid didn't go through. Does that get refunded or do I forfeit? I think it was ~$35.
2) Do I get to choose my own seat?
3) Do I get to use a lounge at SFO?
4) Do I get free checked bags or is the baggage policy based on my original ticket?

Sorry, I know I'm clearly a newbie to both business travel, loyalty points etc.

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Old Aug 29, 2018, 3:49 pm
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Originally Posted by ShinyO
It appears the bid I put in to upgrade to J for my SFO-YYZ flight on Saturday has been accepted ($500USD) as I just noticed a foreign transaction posted to my Amex from Plusgrade. No e-mail from AC yet but I assume it's coming at some point today.

So, so many questions.

1) I had already paid extra for a preferred seat assignment just in case the bid didn't go through. Does that get refunded or do I forfeit? I think it was ~$35.
2) Do I get to choose my own seat?
3) Do I get to use a lounge at SFO?
4) Do I get free checked bags or is the baggage policy based on my original ticket?

Sorry, I know I'm clearly a newbie to both business travel, loyalty points etc.

Here's an FAQ about AC Bid Upgrades

https://www.aircanada.com/content/da...pgrade-FAQ.pdf
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