WJ_Fan_147

yup you’re right! Didn’t notice the aircraft change, 787-9 to 787-8, so 30 seats down to 20. I asked the check-in agent and she apologized and said same thing as you. She wasn’t sure about the refund though, the plus grade T&C seems like I’m going to have to manually request a refund because the reservation system still thinks I’m in business class. Wonder if I can get AC to give me a coupon for a future flight discount or something.

such a shame I was so excited for this to be the start of my vacation, oh well.

TheViperOne

I had a confirmed bid upgrade flight canceled in April and just got my bid refunded like 2 weeks ago. I had to manually request a refund (which I did right away in April) on the website form. Just to give you an idea on a possible timeline

Altaflyer

That’s pretty insane - I’d give them 2 weeks and open a charge back. One should not have to wait that long for a refund for something that was never provided!

WJ_Fan_147

brutal!! Did they give you a discount coupon for the troubles? Was your cancellation reason also an aircraft change?

TheViperOne

Nah my flight got straight up canceled. I did a mileage run in April for the 2x promo. YUL - GRU - EZE and back. GRU to EZE and EZE - GRU got canceled so I just hung out in GRU for like 8 hours and took the flight back to YUL. Kind of sucks but the alternative flights booked didn’t work with my schedule as I had to work and there was a couple day delay.

Interestingly enough, they booked me in J cabin on a Turkish A350 for the GRU - EZE IIROP legs despite only booking PY originally and just having the bid upgrade confirmed.

sha8192

That’s standard, cleared bid upgrade offers more guarantee than eup and allow for rebooking up to J on partner airline.

coolbean

Hi all,
Completely new here. I have been reading all these thread and find them very helpful. Question:
1. I have a travel for 2 people coming up Nov 20. Is there any advantage to put in a lowest bid this early? I want to go from PY to J
2. How do one ask for help to look at the available J seats in the paid tool?

Thanks in advance

TechnoTourist

1. No, cutoff says T-48h but I've had my bid accepted a bit before that so you still have time
2. The Official Fare Bucket Check Request Thread

coolbean

Someone extremely nice helped me with this, I owe one to him/her:


AC003/19NOV J2 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 O1 E0 A0 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 F0
AC004/03DEC J9 C9 D9 Z9 P6 R0 O4 E4 A0 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 G0 F0

The only thing I can understand with these numbers are J2 (two J seats left - very low chance for me to bid upgrade) and J9 (9 J seats left - reasonable chance for me to bid upgrade). What do the other numbers mean?

Thanks again!

TechnoTourist

Those are all the different fare classes or buckets. For AC upgrades J (number of biz class seats they are willing to sell) and maybe R (number of elite upgrades they are willing to confirm) are what matters.

For a general overview https://www.kambr.com/articles/fare-...s-are-changing

WJ_Fan_147

T-46 J3, AC shows 2 tickets left for Business Flexible oddly enough.

bid has not been accepted or rejected. Seems like most bids being accepted happens right or very close to T-48 mark so I’m thinking it’s going to get rejected.

Has anyone had luck with a bid being accepted less than T-48?

Norcanair

Here’s something I haven’t seen before. Mind you, I’ve never bothered to look before...

Put in a bid for a J upgrade on AC1122 this Saturday. Haven’t received a confirmation or denial email, and it’s now T-42.

On the booking tool, AC is still selling up two tickets in J (and up to one in Y). But the J seat map shows all the seats in the cabin selected. There were three or four J seats open on the map yesterday (and two for sale) when I placed the bid.

Any ideas why they’re still selling J seats with a fully-allocated cabin?

My half-assed guess is that IT has picked the successful bid upgrades and seated them, but is holding out on confirmation in the off chance the seats will sell. But there's far smarter folks on here who may have a better idea.

Adam Smith

Because the seat map is not an accurate reflection of the seats that have been sold.

​​​​​​No. Bid upgrades have nothing to do with it. The short answer is Amadeus is stupid and blocks seats for staff passes and waitlisted eUps even though they are not confirmed in J. Please see this thread for further details.

moondog

I'm taking this flight on 11/28. I ended up buying economy because the fare was cheapish, and I was able to snag 3 seats to myself last summer on AA (PVG-DFW); I prefer this to PE. AC has been trying to entice me to upgrade with weekly emails, and the bidding ranges are quite reasonable (e.g. PE starts at $100, and J starts at $350). I suppose it makes sense to put in an offer for J, but I'm wondering if I should try for PE as well.

markol

Put in a bid for J class on NRT > YYZ for this Saturday and just passed T-46 hours and no news

the cutoff was T-48 hours but reading the threads it used to be T-72? So maybe it’ll take longer to hear back?