Old Apr 2, 17, 9:28 pm
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If I use a Bid Upgrade do I get additional SQM / SQD now for my flights?

No.

If I use a Bid Upgrade on an International Flight leaving YYZ/YVR do I get access to the Signature Lounge?

No.

I have a flight going from XXX to YYY on DD-MM-YY and the minimum bid is $ZZZ - what are my chances / what should I bid?

No one here really knows how Plusgrade as implemented by AC really 'decides' which bids to accept.
There are so many potential variables that it's best just to bid what you feel the upgrade is worth to you.

AC Bid Upgrade - FAQs


https://www.aircanada.com/content/dam/aircanada/portal/documents/PDF/en/AC-Bid-Upgrade-FAQ.pdf

If your upgrade request is accepted, the fare conditions for the original ticket you purchased shall remain in effect and will be applicable with respect to cancellation policies, change fees, conditions for minimum and maximum stay, and rules relating to the accrual of frequent flyer miles. All other conditions will be per the upgraded fare class.

On the AC website:

"AC Bid Upgrade - Your opportunity to travel in a higher cabin class"

https://upgrade.plusgrade.com/offer/AirCanada



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Old Oct 17, 22, 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by ChrisA330 View Post
Sounds like an aircraft change and now anyone that was originally confirmed in Business, but are no longer seated in Business will show as being on the upgrade list.

Reservations likely won't be able to help here as this is likely all being done in the Airport PSS and not the Reservation system.
yup youíre right! Didnít notice the aircraft change, 787-9 to 787-8, so 30 seats down to 20. I asked the check-in agent and she apologized and said same thing as you. She wasnít sure about the refund though, the plus grade T&C seems like Iím going to have to manually request a refund because the reservation system still thinks Iím in business class. Wonder if I can get AC to give me a coupon for a future flight discount or something.

such a shame I was so excited for this to be the start of my vacation, oh well.
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Old Oct 17, 22, 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by WJ_Fan_147 View Post
yup youíre right! Didnít notice the aircraft change, 787-9 to 787-8, so 30 seats down to 20. I asked the check-in agent and she apologized and said same thing as you. She wasnít sure about the refund though, the plus grade T&C seems like Iím going to have to manually request a refund because the reservation system still thinks Iím in business class. Wonder if I can get AC to give me a coupon for a future flight or something.

such a shame I was so excited for this to be the start of my vacation, oh well.
I had a confirmed bid upgrade flight canceled in April and just got my bid refunded like 2 weeks ago. I had to manually request a refund (which I did right away in April) on the website form. Just to give you an idea on a possible timeline
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Old Oct 17, 22, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by TheViperOne View Post
I had a confirmed bid upgrade flight canceled in April and just got my bid refunded like 2 weeks ago. I had to manually request a refund (which I did right away in April) on the website form. Just to give you an idea on a possible timeline
Thatís pretty insane - Iíd give them 2 weeks and open a charge back. One should not have to wait that long for a refund for something that was never provided!
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Old Oct 17, 22, 2:09 pm
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Originally Posted by TheViperOne View Post
I had a confirmed bid upgrade flight canceled in April and just got my bid refunded like 2 weeks ago. I had to manually request a refund (which I did right away in April) on the website form. Just to give you an idea on a possible timeline
brutal!! Did they give you a discount coupon for the troubles? Was your cancellation reason also an aircraft change?
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Old Oct 17, 22, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by WJ_Fan_147 View Post
brutal!! Did they give you a discount coupon for the troubles? Was your cancellation reason also an aircraft change?
Nah my flight got straight up canceled. I did a mileage run in April for the 2x promo. YUL - GRU - EZE and back. GRU to EZE and EZE - GRU got canceled so I just hung out in GRU for like 8 hours and took the flight back to YUL. Kind of sucks but the alternative flights booked didnít work with my schedule as I had to work and there was a couple day delay.

Interestingly enough, they booked me in J cabin on a Turkish A350 for the GRU - EZE IIROP legs despite only booking PY originally and just having the bid upgrade confirmed.
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Old Oct 17, 22, 4:18 pm
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Originally Posted by TheViperOne View Post
Interestingly enough, they booked me in J cabin on a Turkish A350 for the GRU - EZE IIROP legs despite only booking PY originally and just having the bid upgrade confirmed.
Thatís standard, cleared bid upgrade offers more guarantee than eup and allow for rebooking up to J on partner airline.
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Old Oct 18, 22, 11:15 am
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Hi all,
Completely new here. I have been reading all these thread and find them very helpful. Question:
1. I have a travel for 2 people coming up Nov 20. Is there any advantage to put in a lowest bid this early? I want to go from PY to J
2. How do one ask for help to look at the available J seats in the paid tool?

Thanks in advance
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Old Oct 18, 22, 11:19 am
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Originally Posted by coolbean View Post
Hi all,
Completely new here. I have been reading all these thread and find them very helpful. Question:
1. I have a travel for 2 people coming up Nov 20. Is there any advantage to put in a lowest bid this early? I want to go from PY to J
2. How do one ask for help to look at the available J seats in the paid tool?

Thanks in advance
1. No, cutoff says T-48h but I've had my bid accepted a bit before that so you still have time
2. The Official Fare Bucket Check Request Thread
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Old Oct 18, 22, 12:11 pm
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Someone extremely nice helped me with this, I owe one to him/her:


AC003/19NOV J2 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 O1 E0 A0 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 F0
AC004/03DEC J9 C9 D9 Z9 P6 R0 O4 E4 A0 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 G0 F0

The only thing I can understand with these numbers are J2 (two J seats left - very low chance for me to bid upgrade) and J9 (9 J seats left - reasonable chance for me to bid upgrade). What do the other numbers mean?

Thanks again!
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Old Oct 18, 22, 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by coolbean View Post
The only thing I can understand with these numbers are J2 (two J seats left - very low chance for me to bid upgrade) and J9 (9 J seats left - reasonable chance for me to bid upgrade). What do the other numbers mean?
Those are all the different fare classes or buckets. For AC upgrades J (number of biz class seats they are willing to sell) and maybe R (number of elite upgrades they are willing to confirm) are what matters.

For a general overview https://www.kambr.com/articles/fare-...s-are-changing
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Old Oct 20, 22, 3:46 pm
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T-46 J3, AC shows 2 tickets left for Business Flexible oddly enough.

bid has not been accepted or rejected. Seems like most bids being accepted happens right or very close to T-48 mark so Iím thinking itís going to get rejected.

Has anyone had luck with a bid being accepted less than T-48?
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Old Oct 20, 22, 5:01 pm
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Here’s something I haven’t seen before. Mind you, I’ve never bothered to look before...

Put in a bid for a J upgrade on AC1122 this Saturday. Haven’t received a confirmation or denial email, and it’s now T-42.

On the booking tool, AC is still selling up two tickets in J (and up to one in Y). But the J seat map shows all the seats in the cabin selected. There were three or four J seats open on the map yesterday (and two for sale) when I placed the bid.

Any ideas why they’re still selling J seats with a fully-allocated cabin?

My half-assed guess is that IT has picked the successful bid upgrades and seated them, but is holding out on confirmation in the off chance the seats will sell. But there's far smarter folks on here who may have a better idea.
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Old Oct 20, 22, 5:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Norcanair View Post
Any ideas why theyíre still selling J seats with a fully-allocated cabin?
Because the seat map is not an accurate reflection of the seats that have been sold.

My half-assed guess is that IT has picked the successful bid upgrades and seated them, but is holding out on confirmation in the off chance the seats will sell.
​​​​​​No. Bid upgrades have nothing to do with it. The short answer is Amadeus is stupid and blocks seats for staff passes and waitlisted eUps even though they are not confirmed in J. Please see this thread for further details.
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Old Oct 26, 22, 4:09 pm
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How are loads on AC 28 (PVG-YYZ)?

I'm taking this flight on 11/28. I ended up buying economy because the fare was cheapish, and I was able to snag 3 seats to myself last summer on AA (PVG-DFW); I prefer this to PE. AC has been trying to entice me to upgrade with weekly emails, and the bidding ranges are quite reasonable (e.g. PE starts at $100, and J starts at $350). I suppose it makes sense to put in an offer for J, but I'm wondering if I should try for PE as well.
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Old Oct 27, 22, 5:06 am
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Put in a bid for J class on NRT > YYZ for this Saturday and just passed T-46 hours and no news

the cutoff was T-48 hours but reading the threads it used to be T-72? So maybe itíll take longer to hear back?
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