Aeroplan availability patterns based on time of the day
Oct 13, 2016, 7:44 am
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Aeroplan availability patterns based on time of the day
I was looking for a particular itinerary (one way SFO-YYZ, a little over a week out) last night, and there were absolutely no direct flights available for Classic Rewards. Looked into +-2 days, still nothing.
Today around 7 am I check it again, and there is not 1, but 3 of AC's direct flights available for my desired date. I snapped it up, and they are still there. Did I just get very lucky or is their dynamic availability algorithm releasing seats in the morning?
Today around 7 am I check it again, and there is not 1, but 3 of AC's direct flights available for my desired date. I snapped it up, and they are still there. Did I just get very lucky or is their dynamic availability algorithm releasing seats in the morning?
Oct 13, 2016, 8:55 am
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There is definitely dynamic availability releases. The question is whether there is a time of day that some of these algorithms run and release/withdraw seats!
Oct 13, 2016, 11:46 am
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I have found that flights change during the day. Last July just as an example i wanted YQF-YYC-YVR-EWR but AP kept giving me YQF-YYC-YYZ-EWR! I tried and tried and then one early morning I got the route i wanted. I went back in the afternoon and it was back to the other route.
Some will say its supply & demand, I say its AC filling the cheapest and ugliest routes first! I have no definitive proof of this, but this is what i choose to believe, just like i believe unicorns exist but Bigfoot does not!
Some will say its supply & demand, I say its AC filling the cheapest and ugliest routes first! I have no definitive proof of this, but this is what i choose to believe, just like i believe unicorns exist but Bigfoot does not!
Oct 13, 2016, 12:33 pm
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I was able to get 3 J seats YYZ-YVR on a widebody this weekend yesterday. There is definitely dynamic releasing going on!
There are also 2 seats YVR-NRT open Monday that were not there the other day... and no YQ on NRT
There are also 2 seats YVR-NRT open Monday that were not there the other day... and no YQ on NRT
Oct 13, 2016, 1:10 pm
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I'm not even sure I'd use the word "dynamic" though. It's a batch process.
When a flight is Y9 B8 M7 U6 etc. and you buy a seat, loads are decremented immediately.
But if a flight is J2 I0 and someone cancels 8 J fares, it will go to J9 right away, but I'm pretty sure I space won't be touched until the next batch run.
Oct 13, 2016, 2:29 pm
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There is a time of day
I'm not even sure I'd use the word "dynamic" though. It's a batch process.
When a flight is Y9 B8 M7 U6 etc. and you buy a seat, loads are decremented immediately.
But if a flight is J2 I0 and someone cancels 8 J fares, it will go to J9 right away, but I'm pretty sure I space won't be touched until the next batch run.
I'm not even sure I'd use the word "dynamic" though. It's a batch process.
When a flight is Y9 B8 M7 U6 etc. and you buy a seat, loads are decremented immediately.
But if a flight is J2 I0 and someone cancels 8 J fares, it will go to J9 right away, but I'm pretty sure I space won't be touched until the next batch run.
Oct 13, 2016, 2:47 pm
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There is a time of day
I'm not even sure I'd use the word "dynamic" though. It's a batch process.
When a flight is Y9 B8 M7 U6 etc. and you buy a seat, loads are decremented immediately.
But if a flight is J2 I0 and someone cancels 8 J fares, it will go to J9 right away, but I'm pretty sure I space won't be touched until the next batch run.
I'm not even sure I'd use the word "dynamic" though. It's a batch process.
When a flight is Y9 B8 M7 U6 etc. and you buy a seat, loads are decremented immediately.
But if a flight is J2 I0 and someone cancels 8 J fares, it will go to J9 right away, but I'm pretty sure I space won't be touched until the next batch run.
Inventory is released in batches, through the filing of fares, opening up award space, etc.
But the current inventory is dynamic: you cancel K6, K6 goes back. etc
Award space is supposed to go back right away, but it's more complicated because it is also open to partner airlines, and those might have to wait to be 'given' back under a batch process as well
Oct 13, 2016, 3:05 pm
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Oct 13, 2016, 3:17 pm
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Oct 13, 2016, 3:27 pm
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Oct 13, 2016, 4:04 pm
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Oct 13, 2016, 4:08 pm
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Oct 13, 2016, 4:10 pm
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I suppose that might be why I got no availability late last night... It's all a blur.
That sounds reasonable.
That sounds reasonable.