Air Canada & rouge New Routes - Master Thread
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Air Canada in this week’s schedule update removed Vancouver – Nagoya schedule, as the airline closed reservation for summer 2019 season. The airline previously filed Air Canada rouge Boeing 767 service from 01JUN19 for summer 2019 season, 3 times a week.
Previously filed schedule as follows.
AC1955 YVR1320 – 1545+1NGO 763 246
AC1956 NGO1715 – 1025YVR 763 357
Previously filed schedule as follows.
AC1955 YVR1320 – 1545+1NGO 763 246
AC1956 NGO1715 – 1025YVR 763 357
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Air Canada S19 Mumbai aircraft changes
By Jim Liu - 12 September 2018 07:30
Air Canada in recent schedule update filed aircraft changes for Toronto – Mumbai route, in summer 2019 season. The Star Alliance member plans to operate Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner aircraft 4 times a week, replacing 777-200LR. Operational aircraft change is scheduled from 01MAY19.
AC046 YYZ2115 – 2130+1BOM 789 x246
AC047 BOM2330 – 0515+1YYZ 789 x357
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...t=air%20canada
By Jim Liu - 12 September 2018 07:30
Air Canada in recent schedule update filed aircraft changes for Toronto – Mumbai route, in summer 2019 season. The Star Alliance member plans to operate Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner aircraft 4 times a week, replacing 777-200LR. Operational aircraft change is scheduled from 01MAY19.
AC046 YYZ2115 – 2130+1BOM 789 x246
AC047 BOM2330 – 0515+1YYZ 789 x357
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Air Canada further revises Dubai service in W18
By Jim Liu - 16 September 2018
Air Canada in winter 2018/19 season plans additional capacity increase for Toronto – Dubai service, which sees the Star Alliance member files 4th weekly service in the first-half of winter season. From 28OCT18, planned 400-seater 777-300ER operation, replacing 787-9, remains unchanged, and the addition of 4th weekly flight is scheduled from 02NOV18 to 26JAN19.
AC056 YYZ2105 – 1900+1DXB 77W x137
AC057 DXB2355 – 0505+1YYZ 77W x124
Schedule listed above is effective 04NOV18 – 26JAN19.
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...t=air%20canada
By Jim Liu - 16 September 2018
Air Canada in winter 2018/19 season plans additional capacity increase for Toronto – Dubai service, which sees the Star Alliance member files 4th weekly service in the first-half of winter season. From 28OCT18, planned 400-seater 777-300ER operation, replacing 787-9, remains unchanged, and the addition of 4th weekly flight is scheduled from 02NOV18 to 26JAN19.
AC056 YYZ2105 – 1900+1DXB 77W x137
AC057 DXB2355 – 0505+1YYZ 77W x124
Schedule listed above is effective 04NOV18 – 26JAN19.
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...t=air%20canada
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Air Canada S19 Mainline long-haul service changes as of 02OCT18
By Jim Liu - 3 October 2018
Air Canada in late-September 2018 filed additional update to its summer 2019 changes on long-haul routes. As of 02OCT18, planned Mainline changes for summer season includes the following.
Calgary – Frankfurt eff 31MAY19 777-200LR replaces 787-9, 1 daily
Montreal – Frankfurt eff 01JUN19 787-9 replaces -8, 1 daily
Montreal – London Heathrow eff 01MAY19 summer 2019 season operated by A330-300, replacing 787-9 in S18 (Actual booking continues to display 787-9, while schedule listing displays A330-300)
Montreal – Rome eff 01JUN19 450-seater 777-300ER replaces A330-300, 1 daily
Montreal – Shanghai Pu Dong eff 01JUN19 787-9 replaces -8, 1 daily
Montreal – Tokyo Narita eff 01JUN19 787-9 replaces -8, 1 daily
Toronto – Dubai eff 31MAR19 summer 2019 season operated by 787-9, replacing 777-200LR, 3 weekly
Toronto – Seoul Incheon eff 01JUN19 400-seater 777-300ER replaces 787-9, 1 daily
Toronto – Zurich eff 31MAR19 summer 2019 season operated by 787-9, replacing 777-300ER during peak season (Actual booking continues to display 777-300ER, while schedule listing displays 787-9)
Vancouver – Frankfurt eff 01JUN19 787-9 replaces -8, 1 daily
Vancouver – London Heathrow eff 01JUN19 Seasonal 2nd daily operated by 787-8, replacing -9 (Overall 1 daily each 787-8/-9)
Previously reported changes:
Toronto – Milan Malpensa 31MAR19 – 30MAY19 767 continues to operate during off-peak season, 3 weekly
Toronto – Mumbai eff 01MAY19 787-9 replaces 777-200LR, 4 weekly
Vancouver – Osaka Kansai eff 12MAY19 Seasonal service operated by Mainline 787-8, replacing rouge 767
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...t=air%20canada
By Jim Liu - 3 October 2018
Air Canada in late-September 2018 filed additional update to its summer 2019 changes on long-haul routes. As of 02OCT18, planned Mainline changes for summer season includes the following.
Calgary – Frankfurt eff 31MAY19 777-200LR replaces 787-9, 1 daily
Montreal – Frankfurt eff 01JUN19 787-9 replaces -8, 1 daily
Montreal – London Heathrow eff 01MAY19 summer 2019 season operated by A330-300, replacing 787-9 in S18 (Actual booking continues to display 787-9, while schedule listing displays A330-300)
Montreal – Rome eff 01JUN19 450-seater 777-300ER replaces A330-300, 1 daily
Montreal – Shanghai Pu Dong eff 01JUN19 787-9 replaces -8, 1 daily
Montreal – Tokyo Narita eff 01JUN19 787-9 replaces -8, 1 daily
Toronto – Dubai eff 31MAR19 summer 2019 season operated by 787-9, replacing 777-200LR, 3 weekly
Toronto – Seoul Incheon eff 01JUN19 400-seater 777-300ER replaces 787-9, 1 daily
Toronto – Zurich eff 31MAR19 summer 2019 season operated by 787-9, replacing 777-300ER during peak season (Actual booking continues to display 777-300ER, while schedule listing displays 787-9)
Vancouver – Frankfurt eff 01JUN19 787-9 replaces -8, 1 daily
Vancouver – London Heathrow eff 01JUN19 Seasonal 2nd daily operated by 787-8, replacing -9 (Overall 1 daily each 787-8/-9)
Previously reported changes:
Toronto – Milan Malpensa 31MAR19 – 30MAY19 767 continues to operate during off-peak season, 3 weekly
Toronto – Mumbai eff 01MAY19 787-9 replaces 777-200LR, 4 weekly
Vancouver – Osaka Kansai eff 12MAY19 Seasonal service operated by Mainline 787-8, replacing rouge 767
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Air Canada rouge S19 long-haul changes as of 10OCT18
By Jim Liu - 11 October 2018
Air Cnaada rouge in recent weeks filed changes to its long-haul operation for summer 2019 season. As of 10OCT18, planned changes include:
Montreal – Bucharest 25JUN19 – 28AUG19 Increase from 2 to 3 weekly
Montreal – Lima eff 01MAY19 Northern summer service operates 3 weekly, compared to 2 in NS18
Toronto – Berlin Tegel 23JUN19 – 16SEP19 Increase from 4 to 6 weekly
Toronto – Bogota eff 01MAY19 Increase from 5 weekly in NS18 to 7 weekly
Toronto – Bucharest 24JUN19 – 03SEP19 Increase from 2 to 3 weekly
Toronto – Manchester 22JUN19 – 17SEP19 Increase from 5 to 7 weekly
Toronto – Warsaw eff 02JUN19 Seasonal service operated by rouge, replacing Mainline 767
Previously reported changes:
Vancouver – Nagoya eff 01JUN19 Seasonal 3 weekly service cancelled
Vancouver – Osaka Kansai eff 12MAY19 Seasonal service replaced by Air Canada Mainline 787-8
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...t=air%20canada
By Jim Liu - 11 October 2018
Air Cnaada rouge in recent weeks filed changes to its long-haul operation for summer 2019 season. As of 10OCT18, planned changes include:
Montreal – Bucharest 25JUN19 – 28AUG19 Increase from 2 to 3 weekly
Montreal – Lima eff 01MAY19 Northern summer service operates 3 weekly, compared to 2 in NS18
Toronto – Berlin Tegel 23JUN19 – 16SEP19 Increase from 4 to 6 weekly
Toronto – Bogota eff 01MAY19 Increase from 5 weekly in NS18 to 7 weekly
Toronto – Bucharest 24JUN19 – 03SEP19 Increase from 2 to 3 weekly
Toronto – Manchester 22JUN19 – 17SEP19 Increase from 5 to 7 weekly
Toronto – Warsaw eff 02JUN19 Seasonal service operated by rouge, replacing Mainline 767
Previously reported changes:
Vancouver – Nagoya eff 01JUN19 Seasonal 3 weekly service cancelled
Vancouver – Osaka Kansai eff 12MAY19 Seasonal service replaced by Air Canada Mainline 787-8
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YYZ to LIM with Rouge has to go. Why AC has done this is a mystery - no one in their right mind would do that return trip, which is an overnight, in Rouge.
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Air Canada increases Montreal – Tel Aviv flights in S19
By Jim Liu - 5 December 2018
Air Canada summer 2019 season is increasing Montreal – Tel Aviv service, during peak travel season. From 20JUN19 to 08SEP19, the airline will add 3rd weekly flight on this route, operated by A330-300 aircraft.
AC082 YUL1800 – 1120+1TLV 333 347
AC083 TLV1250 – 1735YUL 333 145
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...t=Air%20Canada
By Jim Liu - 5 December 2018
Air Canada summer 2019 season is increasing Montreal – Tel Aviv service, during peak travel season. From 20JUN19 to 08SEP19, the airline will add 3rd weekly flight on this route, operated by A330-300 aircraft.
AC082 YUL1800 – 1120+1TLV 333 347
AC083 TLV1250 – 1735YUL 333 145
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Air Canada / Adria begins codeshare partnership in 4Q18
By Jim Liu - 7 December 2018
Air Canada in late-November 2018/early-December 2018 launched codeshare partnership with Adria Airways, covering selected routes to/from Ljubljana. Planned new codeshare routes as follow.
Air Canada operated by ADRIA
Ljubljana – Brussels
Ljubljana – Frankfurt
Ljubljana – Munich
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...t=Air%20Canada
By Jim Liu - 7 December 2018
Air Canada in late-November 2018/early-December 2018 launched codeshare partnership with Adria Airways, covering selected routes to/from Ljubljana. Planned new codeshare routes as follow.
Air Canada operated by ADRIA
Ljubljana – Brussels
Ljubljana – Frankfurt
Ljubljana – Munich
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Air Canada rouge boosts Athens service in S19
By Jim Liu - 10 December 2018
Air Canada rouge in summer 2019 season is expanding service to Greece, where service to Athens sees up to 9 weekly flights each from Montreal and Toronto. Planned schedule as follows.
Montreal – Athens 24JUN19 – 23SEP19 Increase from 7 to 9 weekly
AC1902 YUL1655 – 0905+1ATH 763 D
AC1934 YUL2100 – 1310+1ATH 763 14
AC1903 ATH1120 – 1430YUL 763 D
AC1935 ATH1500 – 1810YUL 763 25
Toronto – Athens 22JUN19 – 22SEP19 Increase from 7 to 9 weekly
AC1900 YYZ1640 – 0920+1ATH 763 D
AC1924 YYZ2030 – 1310+1ATH 763 67
AC1901 ATH1245 – 1645YYZ 763 D
AC1925 ATH1500 – 1900YYZ 763 17
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...t=Air%20Canada
By Jim Liu - 10 December 2018
Air Canada rouge in summer 2019 season is expanding service to Greece, where service to Athens sees up to 9 weekly flights each from Montreal and Toronto. Planned schedule as follows.
Montreal – Athens 24JUN19 – 23SEP19 Increase from 7 to 9 weekly
AC1902 YUL1655 – 0905+1ATH 763 D
AC1934 YUL2100 – 1310+1ATH 763 14
AC1903 ATH1120 – 1430YUL 763 D
AC1935 ATH1500 – 1810YUL 763 25
Toronto – Athens 22JUN19 – 22SEP19 Increase from 7 to 9 weekly
AC1900 YYZ1640 – 0920+1ATH 763 D
AC1924 YYZ2030 – 1310+1ATH 763 67
AC1901 ATH1245 – 1645YYZ 763 D
AC1925 ATH1500 – 1900YYZ 763 17
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Air Canada S19 Vancouver – Taipei frequency changes
By Jim Liu - 12 December 2018
Air Canada in recent schedule update filed frequency changes for Vancouver – Taipei Taoyuan route, in summer 2019 season. From 30APR19 to 26OCT19, the Star Alliance carrier will operate this route 6 weekly, instead of previously planned 7. Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner operates this route.
AC017 YVR1100 – 1415+1TPE 789 x1
AC018 TPE1555 – 1150YVR 789 x2
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...t=Air%20Canada
By Jim Liu - 12 December 2018
Air Canada in recent schedule update filed frequency changes for Vancouver – Taipei Taoyuan route, in summer 2019 season. From 30APR19 to 26OCT19, the Star Alliance carrier will operate this route 6 weekly, instead of previously planned 7. Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner operates this route.
AC017 YVR1100 – 1415+1TPE 789 x1
AC018 TPE1555 – 1150YVR 789 x2
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...t=Air%20Canada
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I was wondering why it took a month for this news to surface in this thread. Thought maybe nobody wanted to highlight service reductions, in which AC is not doing as well as hoped. BR and CI still fly the route year-round daily, with high passenger loads and full aircraft bellies.
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Air Canada S19 Vancouver – Taipei frequency changes
By Jim Liu - 12 December 2018
Air Canada in recent schedule update filed frequency changes for Vancouver – Taipei Taoyuan route, in summer 2019 season. From 30APR19 to 26OCT19, the Star Alliance carrier will operate this route 6 weekly, instead of previously planned 7. Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner operates this route.
AC017 YVR1100 – 1415+1TPE 789 x1
AC018 TPE1555 – 1150YVR 789 x2
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...t=Air%20Canada
By Jim Liu - 12 December 2018
Air Canada in recent schedule update filed frequency changes for Vancouver – Taipei Taoyuan route, in summer 2019 season. From 30APR19 to 26OCT19, the Star Alliance carrier will operate this route 6 weekly, instead of previously planned 7. Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner operates this route.
AC017 YVR1100 – 1415+1TPE 789 x1
AC018 TPE1555 – 1150YVR 789 x2
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...t=Air%20Canada
However, I've connected AC/BR in TPE and am seriously unimpressed by the airport. Remote stands for many (in my experience) BR flights, long bus rides, cramped gate areas, not enough washrooms, etc. Compared to hubs like NRT, ICN, and HKG, TPE can't compete.
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First thought - surprising. CI and BR both seem to do quite well on this route! Plus BR offers a great onboard product for those connecting.
However, I've connected AC/BR in TPE and am seriously unimpressed by the airport. Remote stands for many (in my experience) BR flights, long bus rides, cramped gate areas, not enough washrooms, etc. Compared to hubs like NRT, ICN, and HKG, TPE can't compete.
However, I've connected AC/BR in TPE and am seriously unimpressed by the airport. Remote stands for many (in my experience) BR flights, long bus rides, cramped gate areas, not enough washrooms, etc. Compared to hubs like NRT, ICN, and HKG, TPE can't compete.
Alas AC uses the BR lounge (Infinity Star), which usually has inedible or low quality food, except for its hot dogs and ice cream. It's a bit sad for a flagship lounge (other than gimmicky funky design), but then again let's take a look at the MLLs and they don't even have that going for them.
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Here's my comments on Rouge, based on my last trip.
Took mainline YYC-YYZ (and return) on big birds (A330, B767), and then took rouge YYZ-MBJ / return on the B767.
My rouge flights were both on time (or within 20 minutes of scheduled arrival once in air). Service was normal, crew was cheery. Seats were fine. Maybe a bit tighter than the mainline birds but nothing that bothered me significantly.
Same catering, same drinks.
My mainline flights both had delays, one 3 hours, one 1+ hours. Crews were scattered and seemed stressed with issues. Probably due to the probs with both birds and time of day (nighttime), wasn't first flight of the day for the crews.
Unless you are flying up front, other than the entertainment, the service is pretty similar. I can tolerate the slightly smaller seats on the rouge birds for the cost savings.
*cue rants from J class flyers... lol*
Took mainline YYC-YYZ (and return) on big birds (A330, B767), and then took rouge YYZ-MBJ / return on the B767.
My rouge flights were both on time (or within 20 minutes of scheduled arrival once in air). Service was normal, crew was cheery. Seats were fine. Maybe a bit tighter than the mainline birds but nothing that bothered me significantly.
Same catering, same drinks.
My mainline flights both had delays, one 3 hours, one 1+ hours. Crews were scattered and seemed stressed with issues. Probably due to the probs with both birds and time of day (nighttime), wasn't first flight of the day for the crews.
Unless you are flying up front, other than the entertainment, the service is pretty similar. I can tolerate the slightly smaller seats on the rouge birds for the cost savings.
*cue rants from J class flyers... lol*
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Here's my comments on Rouge, based on my last trip.
Took mainline YYC-YYZ (and return) on big birds (A330, B767), and then took rouge YYZ-MBJ / return on the B767.
My rouge flights were both on time (or within 20 minutes of scheduled arrival once in air). Service was normal, crew was cheery. Seats were fine. Maybe a bit tighter than the mainline birds but nothing that bothered me significantly.
Same catering, same drinks.
My mainline flights both had delays, one 3 hours, one 1+ hours. Crews were scattered and seemed stressed with issues. Probably due to the probs with both birds and time of day (nighttime), wasn't first flight of the day for the crews.
Unless you are flying up front, other than the entertainment, the service is pretty similar. I can tolerate the slightly smaller seats on the rouge birds for the cost savings.
*cue rants from J class flyers... lol*
Took mainline YYC-YYZ (and return) on big birds (A330, B767), and then took rouge YYZ-MBJ / return on the B767.
My rouge flights were both on time (or within 20 minutes of scheduled arrival once in air). Service was normal, crew was cheery. Seats were fine. Maybe a bit tighter than the mainline birds but nothing that bothered me significantly.
Same catering, same drinks.
My mainline flights both had delays, one 3 hours, one 1+ hours. Crews were scattered and seemed stressed with issues. Probably due to the probs with both birds and time of day (nighttime), wasn't first flight of the day for the crews.
Unless you are flying up front, other than the entertainment, the service is pretty similar. I can tolerate the slightly smaller seats on the rouge birds for the cost savings.
*cue rants from J class flyers... lol*
I think you meant to post in this thread
Air Canada rouge Flight Report and Feedback Thread
This thread that you posted in is just info re Mainline or rouge routes and any changes etc