New YYC International Terminal - Opens Oct 31/16
#586
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: CYYC/CYYZ
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Yup, you'd still get barked at to take your shoes off. Welcome to YYC - the only major airport where Trusted Travelers are not Trusted.
#587
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Posts: 1,369
Ah, ok. I do remember the line back at the B gates. I'm just happy to get through more quickly, whether I have to take off my shoes or not!
#588
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
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At YYZ and YVR, there is no PreCheck-style screening either (and there wasn't the last time I went through YUL either, although it's a while ago). There may be a fully dedicated line for Nexus, but shoes still come off, laptops and liquids come out, etc.
So, as awful as the new terminal is, I don't really find the TB security experience to be much better or worse than YYZ or YVR.
#589
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As much as I love to crap on the new YYC international terminal - because it is terrible - this criticism is inaccurate.
At YYZ and YVR, there is no PreCheck-style screening either (and there wasn't the last time I went through YUL either, although it's a while ago). There may be a fully dedicated line for Nexus, but shoes still come off, laptops and liquids come out, etc.
So, as awful as the new terminal is, I don't really find the TB security experience to be much better or worse than YYZ or YVR.
At YYZ and YVR, there is no PreCheck-style screening either (and there wasn't the last time I went through YUL either, although it's a while ago). There may be a fully dedicated line for Nexus, but shoes still come off, laptops and liquids come out, etc.
So, as awful as the new terminal is, I don't really find the TB security experience to be much better or worse than YYZ or YVR.
#590
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Posts: 340
As much as I love to crap on the new YYC international terminal - because it is terrible - this criticism is inaccurate.
At YYZ and YVR, there is no PreCheck-style screening either (and there wasn't the last time I went through YUL either, although it's a while ago). There may be a fully dedicated line for Nexus, but shoes still come off, laptops and liquids come out, etc.
So, as awful as the new terminal is, I don't really find the TB security experience to be much better or worse than YYZ or YVR.
At YYZ and YVR, there is no PreCheck-style screening either (and there wasn't the last time I went through YUL either, although it's a while ago). There may be a fully dedicated line for Nexus, but shoes still come off, laptops and liquids come out, etc.
So, as awful as the new terminal is, I don't really find the TB security experience to be much better or worse than YYZ or YVR.
#591
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
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I transit to the States through YVR about twice a month. Using the Nexus lane I never have had to take my shoes off or my small liquids out of my carry on. I also leave on my belt and watch. The only thing I have to take out is my laptop. Just did this last week and will be doing it again tomorrow.
#592
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE 1MM, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 3,396
As much as I love to crap on the new YYC international terminal - because it is terrible - this criticism is inaccurate.
At YYZ and YVR, there is no PreCheck-style screening either (and there wasn't the last time I went through YUL either, although it's a while ago). There may be a fully dedicated line for Nexus, but shoes still come off, laptops and liquids come out, etc.
So, as awful as the new terminal is, I don't really find the TB security experience to be much better or worse than YYZ or YVR.
At YYZ and YVR, there is no PreCheck-style screening either (and there wasn't the last time I went through YUL either, although it's a while ago). There may be a fully dedicated line for Nexus, but shoes still come off, laptops and liquids come out, etc.
So, as awful as the new terminal is, I don't really find the TB security experience to be much better or worse than YYZ or YVR.
YYC is the only major airport in Canada that does not have Nexus/Pre-Check style security for departures to the USA. The only one.
#593
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: CYYC/CYYZ
Programs: UA 1K, IHG Spire, Bonvoy Titanium, Hertz P.C., GE/NEXUS
Posts: 140
As much as I love to crap on the new YYC international terminal - because it is terrible - this criticism is inaccurate.
At YYZ and YVR, there is no PreCheck-style screening either (and there wasn't the last time I went through YUL either, although it's a while ago). There may be a fully dedicated line for Nexus, but shoes still come off, laptops and liquids come out, etc.
So, as awful as the new terminal is, I don't really find the TB security experience to be much better or worse than YYZ or YVR.
At YYZ and YVR, there is no PreCheck-style screening either (and there wasn't the last time I went through YUL either, although it's a while ago). There may be a fully dedicated line for Nexus, but shoes still come off, laptops and liquids come out, etc.
So, as awful as the new terminal is, I don't really find the TB security experience to be much better or worse than YYZ or YVR.
#594
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YUL
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Posts: 5,691
It is not true for YYZ either. I transit there at least 2-3 times a month. What you are saying is true if you are connecting (CAN-CAN-USA) but not if you are departing YYZ (YYZ-USA). So the easy solution, and it is always faster, is to exit ground side when you land in YYZ and then clear security as if your point of origin is YYZ. And you don't have to remove shoes or belt, just take the laptop out.
#595
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#597
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#598
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Vancouver
Programs: Helping you through YVR
Posts: 3
No nexus line at security (at least not in December 2017), but it's possible for transfer pax and YYC-originating pax both to use Nexus/GE unlike YVR (which only had GE for YVR-originating pax when I last transferred through there... In 2013 ). Otherwise, it's pretty standard
The US connections facility was recently expanded as well with the new larger CATSA screening lanes.
#599
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: fwp blood diamond, dykwia uranium
Posts: 7,251
lots of "customer service ambassadors" and white hats standing around everywhere doing nothing. roaming around and hovering around you if you stand at the wrong part curbside. you start onloading your bags onto your ride and they hover around you. it's so weird. also, ubers cannot drop you doorside. they have to go far curbside. apparently this is because there is no room. but all this terminal has is room. this terminal is a great job and regulation creator, at least.
yes. by far. they deliberately go slow and aggravate you in yvr. calgary is just slothy; they don't know better.
yes. transborder has good enough breakfast and lunch food (with actual real hot options, not oatmeal and yogurt or humus and ketchup and tortilla chips like in mll). self pour wine and liquor instead of the guy who gets all passive aggressive and warns you not to get wasted when he pours you a measured, single third whiskey in 2 hours. equally good seating as mll but more focus on outlets/being 21st century. far superior to domestic and tb canadian mll, slight step down from fra and lhr mll but that's not saying much.
i would imagine so if you found it horrendous. food is good enough by canadian standards; at least it's real eggs, bacon and fresh fruit not oatmeal. never seen any of those in a non intl mll. and better than ANY of the garbage served airside public transborder.
yes. by far. they deliberately go slow and aggravate you in yvr. calgary is just slothy; they don't know better.
i would imagine so if you found it horrendous. food is good enough by canadian standards; at least it's real eggs, bacon and fresh fruit not oatmeal. never seen any of those in a non intl mll. and better than ANY of the garbage served airside public transborder.
#600
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: fwp blood diamond, dykwia uranium
Posts: 7,251
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If call-to-gate was the desired outcome and to get there you had to have one city give it a go to slowly get user adoption, so be it. You'll never get call to gate to work if you simply build the terminal with all the seating at the gates. Someone has to lead the charge to make the change.
There was probably more to the design and discussion and engineering than us common folk are aware of ----
If call-to-gate was the desired outcome and to get there you had to have one city give it a go to slowly get user adoption, so be it. You'll never get call to gate to work if you simply build the terminal with all the seating at the gates. Someone has to lead the charge to make the change.
There was probably more to the design and discussion and engineering than us common folk are aware of ----
perhaps there is a reason for taking up so much floor space, but i think the lifers at yyc wanted something big for the sake of something big. there's also no excuse why the transborder gte area is super depressing; linoleum floor, crappy prairie paintings, no water fountains (at first), massive unused central waiting area. it's obvious they planned this during the boom days when lineups at cbp were 60-90 mins long during startup. so better that it's too big, but man it's ugly looking.
i wish they did something nice like vancouver's international or something useful and bold like singapore, but of course it's all about the almighty dollar in calgary.
the pros are that cbp is much more improved and the transborder area lounge is very nice.