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How Can AC employees tell that you have Altitude Status?

Old Aug 4, 19, 3:42 pm
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why can they not call for a "physician"?
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Old Aug 4, 19, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by mathemagic View Post
I wouldn't go so far as to say everyone knows that. In any case, maybe AC should switch from identifying titles to degrees. Then they would know who is an MD to call on when needed, and who can be consulted instead on more academic matters.
on BA a number of years ago they called for “a doctor of medicine” though my favourite part was shortly after they called that the live maps all showed our destination switch from Heathrow to Iceland before they announced it

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Old Aug 4, 19, 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by flyquiet View Post
why can they not call for a "physician"?
In some regions “physician” is specialist internist rather than a surgeon for example. My fave story is someone I knew who was an ER doc 25 years ago had a pt collapse with tension pneumothorax and he fashioned an intercostal drain and cannula from a (metal) coat hanger, oxygen tube and a plastic bottle of water on a BA EU flight. 20 something woman, made it home just fine. You need a surgeon or ER doc for that not an internal medicine doc I suspect.
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Old Aug 4, 19, 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow View Post
Or like ... why bother? I can conceivably see a reason to identify medical doctors and MAYBE pilots on the PIL. But why the heck is their an option for all the others?
Even identifying medical doctors may not be the most helpful. I know many paramedics that do more cardiac arrests and respiratory failure calls in a month than even some ER Docs. Same thing with pilots. Unless both pilots are unconscious/in a coma, air regs aren't going to allow any non-company pilots take control. And even in that situation, anyone seen the JAG episode of a fighter pilot trying to land a 747....

And in order to stay on topic.... I think all of the post-nominals/titles, I think they're a hold over from an era when everyone was address by their title. But those are only my thoughts.

On the other hand, would it be a breach of privacy if they identified the status holder's age? That being said I've never been challenged with AC, even though I am on the younger end of the spectrum...don't know if that's a blessing or a curse...
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Old Aug 4, 19, 4:22 pm
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I'm not that kind of doctor, but I worked in healthcare for some time, and I do recall more references to "physicians" than "doctors", even when discussing a larger group that included surgeons. And I'm not sure a surgeon (knowing why FAs page for medical help) hearing that page is going to say, oh, well then they must need an internist. I will stay here and watch the end of PBMC. If FA was concerned that would be the case, they could ask for a "physician or surgeon" then. But I don't think the FA is qualified to determine you're going to need coat hanger surgery, and I would think a dermatologist is better than a PhD of Chinese literature, which is the point of discussing requests for a "doctor". My 2c.
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Old Aug 4, 19, 4:25 pm
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Just go with my approach; guy in 40s with Tumi rollbaord and laptop bag stacked on top, tired with a resigned look on your face. Even when I am travelling in shorts and a tshirt (usually) they see you coming from a mile away ;-)
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Old Aug 4, 19, 4:40 pm
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Originally Posted by RatherBeInYOW View Post
Just go with my approach; guy in 40s with Tumi rollbaord and laptop bag stacked on top, tired with a resigned look on your face. Even when I am travelling in shorts and a tshirt (usually) they see you coming from a mile away ;-)

That's pretty much my look, down to the same brand of bag - but I haven't reached 40s yet. I look about 74 though...
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Old Aug 4, 19, 6:24 pm
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I’m in my early 30s but look a bit younger, and usually fly in jeans and hoodie (I work for a record label so this is business attire for me). Routinely at LAX in the Priority line, I get “Sir this line is for business class and elites” to which I usually reply “I sure hope so” and stand there awkwardly until they pull up my PNR and realize I’m exactly where I’m supposed to be. Haven’t really run into this issue at other stations, just LAX.

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Old Aug 4, 19, 7:34 pm
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Originally Posted by recreationaltimetraveller View Post
I’m in my early 30s but look a bit younger, and usually fly in jeans and hoodie (I work for a record label so this is business attire for me). Routinely at LAX in the Priority line, I get “Sir this line is for business class and elites” to which I usually reply “I sure hope so” and stand there awkwardly until they pull up my PNR and realize I’m exactly where I’m supposed to be. Haven’t really run into this issue at other stations, just LAX.
The worst part about that is it's also for Premium Economy, Latitude, credit card holders, etc. They're not even right in their condescending statement.
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Old Aug 4, 19, 8:04 pm
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Originally Posted by johnwb View Post
There are also assumptions made based on skin colour. My (Colombian) wife and I have been SE for most of the last 10 years and we've experienced this first hand, on Air Canada as well as other airlines. When my wife is travelling on her own and takes her seat in J she will sometimes have the FA ask to see her BP "just to make sure you're in the right seat". That's never once happened to me. I don't think it's a coincidence - she just doesn't look, to some people, like she should be travelling in business.
This happens to white wives too.
Especially young, dressed comfortably, white wives.

My wife has flown on 50+ airlines with and without me, and the only time(s) this has ever been an issue is during AC boarding.

Like you can't possibly be zone 1!
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Old Aug 5, 19, 5:00 am
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Originally Posted by flyquiet View Post
I'm not that kind of doctor, but I worked in healthcare for some time, and I do recall more references to "physicians" than "doctors", even when discussing a larger group that included surgeons. And I'm not sure a surgeon (knowing why FAs page for medical help) hearing that page is going to say, oh, well then they must need an internist. I will stay here and watch the end of PBMC. If FA was concerned that would be the case, they could ask for a "physician or surgeon" then. But I don't think the FA is qualified to determine you're going to need coat hanger surgery, and I would think a dermatologist is better than a PhD of Chinese literature, which is the point of discussing requests for a "doctor". My 2c.
JAMA has a nice review. Most calls are relatively minor, until they aren’t of course . MD, RN, paramedic etc all perfectly capable of handling and they consult with ground anyway.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2719313
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Old Aug 5, 19, 3:52 pm
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I was flying TATL a few years ago on AA, and was amazed/impressed that they played a special video on all the video monitors asking for medical professionals to identify themselves to the cabin crew. Made me realize that medical emergencies must happen with some significant frequency for AA to invest in a special in-flight video to ask for medical assistance.
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Old Aug 7, 19, 12:11 am
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Originally Posted by recreationaltimetraveller View Post
I’m in my early 30s but look a bit younger, and usually fly in jeans and hoodie (I work for a record label so this is business attire for me). Routinely at LAX in the Priority line, I get “Sir this line is for business class and elites” to which I usually reply “I sure hope so” and stand there awkwardly until they pull up my PNR and realize I’m exactly where I’m supposed to be. Haven’t really run into this issue at other stations, just LAX.
THIS.

I am in my mid-30's working in tech and fly out of LAX several times each month. This happens almost EVERY SINGLE TIME. Rarely does this happen elsewhere.
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Old Aug 7, 19, 7:16 am
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Originally Posted by WaytoomuchEurope View Post
I get the occasional question when in my usual travel attire; hoodie, t-shirt, and jeans. I have never been asked when coming from or going directly to a work meeting and in professional clothing.
I am almost always dressed casually and never really have issues with AC staff. Perhaps it's because @RatherBeInYOW and I share essentially the same look - other than the age, "guy in 40s with Tumi rollbaord and laptop bag stacked on top, tired with a resigned look on your face" pretty much describes me to a T

The only place I've really been hassled by AC staff, come to think of it, is at the priority check-in area at YYZ, since they put up that plastic barrier to funnel people in past a screening staff member, where I've had a couple of slightly snooty people comment that this was priority/ask whether I was meant to be there.

I get it from PAX too. Got a 4 minute lecture in the Z1 line at YUL from an upgraded E35 - it included how I was likely in the wrong line, how I could never know as much about the pains of air travel as him etc. Then his wife pointed out my SE tag to him and he got a little awkward.
Oh, yes, pax can be very bad. Probably my all-time favourite was a guy who had Z2 boarding because of his TD Aeroplan card, standing at the head of the Z1 line waiting to get on the plane ASAP, brandishing his TD card so that no one would deny him his privilege, getting very annoyed at me when I went around him for Z1 boarding.

In truth though, I don't get challenged often. I believe this is due to my hairline and waistline performing opposite phenomenons at the same time.
You're slimming down and growing more hair? Wow, things are really going your way!

Originally Posted by marchelli View Post
Even identifying medical doctors may not be the most helpful. I know many paramedics that do more cardiac arrests and respiratory failure calls in a month than even some ER Docs.
Very true. My wife is an ER nurse and had an amusing experience on a flight a few years ago where a lady needed medical attention and a middle-aged dermatologist attempted to deal with the situation. It took her longer than it should have to realized that she was not actually very well qualified to handle it and leave my wife to it, but eventually she figured it out.
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