AC 34 Aircraft switch?

Old Jul 6, 16, 11:13 pm
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AC 34 Aircraft switch?

Hello,

Flying tomorrow from YVR to YYZ, booked AC 34 for the 777L, looking at my Air Canada App tonight and it looks like there's been a switch of Aircraft to a 767. The flight originates in SYD to YVR, then off to YYZ, the flight from SYD looks like it's on time. Was able to get 2 seats on the left side of the new swap out Aircraft.

Anyone know the reason of the switch?
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Old Jul 6, 16, 11:23 pm
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Rmks/flight cancelled due to late inbound acft fin 705 right bl
eed fault. Flight has been replaced with ac2134 etd 17:35l.
Yvr 0900 yyz 1625 763
dep tml m gate --/c47

arr tml t1 gate --/-----
rmks/was b77l now b763
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Old Jul 6, 16, 11:25 pm
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Ewwwww... And it's a breakfast flight too.
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Old Jul 6, 16, 11:59 pm
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Here is more of a complete story. One of the 77Ls (Fin 705) has an engine problem, so due to fleet constraints they cannot run the 77L between YYZ and YVR. They are likely keeping the 77L in YVR and turning it back to SYD. Some rouge sectors were also subbed in for YVR-YYZ and YYZ-YVR

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2AC34/07JUL«                                                    
AC RESPONSE                                                     
AC0034/07JUL  EQU ACA763W01                                     
CTY TML  ARR    DEP     GRND   AIR  CABINS  J Y                 
SYD       -    1010      -   14.20                              
YVR     0730   0900    01.30 04.25                              
YYZ     1625           TOTAL TIME   SYDYYZ   20.15              
SYD 1010        YVR 0730 00:00  77L MTC                         
  DEP TML    GATE --/-----                                      
  ARR TML M  GATE --/-----                                      
RMKS/FLIGHT CANCELLED DUE TO LATE INBOUND ACFT FIN 705 RIGHT BL 
EED FAULT.  FLIGHT HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH AC2134 ETD 17:35L.    
YVR 0900        YYZ 1625        763                             
  DEP TML M  GATE --/C47                                        
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SYD       -    1010      -   14.20                              
YVR     0730   0900    01.30 04.25                              
YYZ     1625           TOTAL TIME   SYDYYZ   20.15              
SYD 1010        YVR 0730 00:00  77L MTC                         
  DEP TML    GATE --/-----                                      
  ARR TML M  GATE --/-----                                      
RMKS/FLIGHT CANCELLED DUE TO LATE INBOUND ACFT FIN 705 RIGHT BL 
EED FAULT.  FLIGHT HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH AC2134 ETD 17:35L.    
YVR 0900        YYZ 1625        763                             
  DEP TML M  GATE --/C47                                        
  ARR TML T1 GATE --/-----                                      
RMKS/WAS B77L NOW B763                                          
2AC33/06JUL«                                                    
AC RESPONSE                                                     
AC0033/06JUL  EQU ACA77LB01                                     
CTY TML  ARR    DEP     GRND   AIR  CABINS  J O Y               
YYZ       -    2015      -   04.55                              
YVR     2210   2340    01.30 15.35                              
SYD     0815*2         TOTAL TIME   YYZSYD   22.00              
YYZ CNLD        YVR CNLD 00:00  77L MTC                         
YVR 2340        SYD 0815 00:00  77L                             
  DEP TML T1 GATE --/D43                                        
  ARR TML M  GATE --/-----                                      
RMKS/FLIGHT CANCELLED DUE TO B777 FLEET CONSTRAINTS/FIN 705 COW 
LING ISSUE.  PAX HAVE BEEN REBOOKED ON EXTRA SECTION ZX1993 SAM 
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AC0034/06JUL  EQU ACA77LB01                                     
CTY TML  ARR    DEP     GRND   AIR  CABINS  J O Y               
SYD       -    1010      -   14.20                              
YVR     0730   0900    01.30 04.25                              
YYZ     1625           TOTAL TIME   SYDYYZ   20.15              
SYD             YVR                                             
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YVR             YYZ                                             
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YVR             YYZ                                             
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YYZ/LX                                                          
YVR CNLD        YYZ CNLD 00:00  77L MTC                         
RMKS/FLIGHT CANCELLED DUE TO B777 FLEET CONSTRAINTS/FIN 705 COW 
LING ISSUE.  PAX PROTECTED ON EXTRA SECTION ZX1994 ETD 11:30L E 
ST.                                                             
SYD 1010        YVR 0739 00:09L 77L     AD AA                   
2AC33/07JUL«                                                    
AC RESPONSE                                                     
AC0033/07JUL  EQU ACA77LB01                                     
CTY TML  ARR    DEP     GRND   AIR  CABINS  J O Y               
YYZ       -    2015      -   04.55                              
YVR     2210   2340    01.30 15.35                              
SYD     0815*2         TOTAL TIME   YYZSYD   22.00              
YYZ 2015        YVR 2210        763                             
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YVR             SYD                                             
  DEP TML M  GATE --/D51                                        
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YYZ CNLD        YVR CNLD 00:00  763 SKD                         
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AC RESPONSE                                                     
YVR     2210   2340    01.30 15.35                              
SYD     0815*2         TOTAL TIME   YYZSYD   22.00              
YYZ 2015        YVR 2210        763                             
  DEP TML T1 GATE --/-----                                      
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YVR             SYD                                             
  DEP TML M  GATE --/D51                                        
  ARR TML    GATE --/-----                                      
YYZ CNLD        YVR CNLD 00:00  763 SKD                         
YVR 2340        SYD 0815 00:00  77L                             
RMKS/YYZ-YVR WAS B77L NOW B763 / FLT CNLD AND REPL BY AC2033 /  
SAME TIMES ON B763 ACFT                                         
2AC1993«                                                        
AC RESPONSE                                                     
AC1993/06JUL  EQU ABL763N01                                     
CTY TML  ARR    DEP     GRND   AIR  CABINS  J Y                 
YYZ       -    2015      -   05.05                              
YVR     2220           TOTAL TIME   YYZYVR    5.05              
RMKS/EXTRA SECTION REPLACING CANCELLED AC033 YYZYVR SAME DEPART 
URETIME DUE TO B777 FLEET CONSTRAINTS/MTCE AOG FIN 705 COWLING  
ISSUE.DLYD AIRPORT CONGESTION GATING CONSTRAINTS                
YYZ 2033 00:18L YVR 2220        763 ANB AD EA                   
  DEP TML T1 GATE --/D45                                        
  ARR TML M  GATE --/-----                                      
OPERATED BY/EXPLOITE PAR   ZX                                   
2AC1994«                                                        
AC RESPONSE                                                     
AC1994/06JUL  EQU ABL763N01                                     
CTY TML  ARR    DEP     GRND   AIR  CABINS  J Y                 
YVR       -    1130      -   04.25                              
YYZ     1855           TOTAL TIME   YVRYYZ    4.25              
YVR 1151 00:21L YYZ 1924 00:29L 763 SOP AD AA                   
  DEP TML M  GATE --/C52                                        
  ARR TML T1 GATE --/-----                                      
OPERATED BY/EXPLOITE PAR   ZX
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Old Jul 7, 16, 2:04 am
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I'm on AC34 departing on July 8 and I got an email from Air Canada changing my YVR-YYC flight by 5 hours.

The email shows the AC34 as being on time and when I checked in it shows on time. I go to AC.com and it shows the departure moving from 1010 to 1410 which then makes sense for my yvr-yyc change.

But I can't find any info on the flight anywhere else.

AC in Aus doesn't seem to answer the phone and I can't raise the concierge with the international numbers on my SE card.

Can someone tell me if AC34 on July 8 is actually delayed by 4 hours? Thanks gents.

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Old Jul 7, 16, 2:20 am
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Originally Posted by YYCYYZ View Post

Can someone tell me if AC34 on July 8 is actually delayed by 4 hours? Thanks gents.
Yes, it is delayed to 1410 due to crew legality/rest times.

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2AC34/08JUL«                                                    
AC RESPONSE                                                     
AC0034/08JUL  EQU ACA77LB01                                     
CTY TML  ARR    DEP     GRND   AIR  CABINS  J O Y               
SYD       -    1010      -   14.20                              
YVR     0730   0900    01.30 04.25                              
YYZ     1625           TOTAL TIME   SYDYYZ   20.15              
SYD 1410 04:00L YVR 1130 04:00L 77L FOC ED EA                   
  DEP TML    GATE --/-----                                      
  ARR TML M  GATE --/-----                                      
YVR 0900        YYZ 1625        763                             
  DEP TML M  GATE --/C49                                        
  ARR TML T1 GATE --/-----                                      
RMKS/DLY CREW LEGALITY DUE LATE OPS AC2133/06JULYVR-YYZ WAS B77 
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AC RESPONSE                                                     
AC2133/06JUL  EQU ACA77LB01                                     
CTY TML  ARR    DEP     GRND   AIR  CABINS  J O Y               
YVR       -    0800      -   15.15                              
SYD     1615*1         TOTAL TIME   YVRSYD   15.15              
RMKS/EXTRA SECTION REPLACING CANCELLED AC033/06JUL, DELAYED DUE 
 AWAITING FIRAV EQUIP ACCT MTC FIN705 COWLING ISSUE             
YVR 1045 02:45L SYD 1857 02:42L 77L MTF AD EA                   
  DEP TML M  GATE --/D55                                        
  ARR TML    GATE --/-----
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Old Jul 7, 16, 2:29 am
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Originally Posted by D582 View Post
Yes, it is delayed to 1410 due to crew legality/rest times.

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2AC34/08JUL«                                                    
AC RESPONSE                                                     
AC0034/08JUL  EQU ACA77LB01                                     
CTY TML  ARR    DEP     GRND   AIR  CABINS  J O Y               
SYD       -    1010      -   14.20                              
YVR     0730   0900    01.30 04.25                              
YYZ     1625           TOTAL TIME   SYDYYZ   20.15              
SYD 1410 04:00L YVR 1130 04:00L 77L FOC ED EA                   
  DEP TML    GATE --/-----                                      
  ARR TML M  GATE --/-----                                      
YVR 0900        YYZ 1625        763                             
  DEP TML M  GATE --/C49                                        
  ARR TML T1 GATE --/-----                                      
RMKS/DLY CREW LEGALITY DUE LATE OPS AC2133/06JULYVR-YYZ WAS B77 
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2AC2133/06JUL«                                                  
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AC2133/06JUL  EQU ACA77LB01                                     
CTY TML  ARR    DEP     GRND   AIR  CABINS  J O Y               
YVR       -    0800      -   15.15                              
SYD     1615*1         TOTAL TIME   YVRSYD   15.15              
RMKS/EXTRA SECTION REPLACING CANCELLED AC033/06JUL, DELAYED DUE 
 AWAITING FIRAV EQUIP ACCT MTC FIN705 COWLING ISSUE             
YVR 1045 02:45L SYD 1857 02:42L 77L MTF AD EA                   
  DEP TML M  GATE --/D55                                        
  ARR TML    GATE --/-----
Thanks so much. I'll sleep in without worrying about missing the flight. Really appreciate the assistance.
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Old Jul 10, 16, 1:30 am
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Originally Posted by HypeYVR View Post
Hello,

Flying tomorrow from YVR to YYZ, booked AC 34 for the 777L, looking at my Air Canada App tonight and it looks like there's been a switch of Aircraft to a 767. The flight originates in SYD to YVR, then off to YYZ, the flight from SYD looks like it's on time. Was able to get 2 seats on the left side of the new swap out Aircraft.
I was supposed to fly on AC33 YYZ-YVR in business class on July 6, and that flight was also cancelled. AC helpfully put me onto the substitute Rouge-operated flight in premium economy (it would have been nice if someone had called about the cancellation with other flight options, but at least I got a text), so I had to spend many minutes on the phone getting switched to a flight with pods.
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Old Jul 10, 16, 7:05 pm
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Does this mean people paid for J on a 77L and got rouged to a 767. That would seriously suck.
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Old Jul 11, 16, 1:27 am
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Originally Posted by yul36 View Post
Does this mean people paid for J on a 77L and got rouged to a 767. That would seriously suck.
It would suck less than having the flight cancel.
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Old Jul 11, 16, 6:06 am
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Originally Posted by cedric View Post
It would suck less than having the flight cancel.
Or AC116, AC1162??? Dreamliner is "supposed" to be better than 777, despite the cabin refresh. Just move some cheapeners back to make space.
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Old Jul 11, 16, 6:22 pm
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Originally Posted by cedric View Post
It would suck less than having the flight cancel.
Well they did cancel the flight didn't they.

Is this the future rather than replace a mainline flight with a mainline aircraft they take the cheep way out and replace with rouge. I'm sure the people who were paying for a high flex fare, Lattitude or paid for extra room seats in the PY section loved the 28" of luxury rouge Y provides.
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Old Jul 11, 16, 9:54 pm
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So it this swap an ongoing Russian roulette > I am on AC33 tomorrow and hope its not swapped. Just checked in and no mention of a swap yet
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Old Jul 12, 16, 3:53 am
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Originally Posted by vernonc View Post
So it this swap an ongoing Russian roulette > I am on AC33 tomorrow and hope its not swapped. Just checked in and no mention of a swap yet
AC33 swaps are actually very rare. It was just because of the mechanical in SYD that caused a problem.
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Old Jul 12, 16, 4:53 am
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Rouge is not a substitute for AC mainline service

Originally Posted by cedric View Post
It would suck less than having the flight cancel.
I disagree.

How is it better to be moved to a Rouge long haul flight? How is Premium Economy a substitute for J?

AC could have easily re-routed passenger on UA or ANZ via SFO (787).
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