AC vs LH Business YYZ-MUC
Jul 5, 2016, 6:15 am
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AC vs LH Business YYZ-MUC
YYZ-MUC on LH last night
LH boarding is a disaster...AC zoned boarding far superior
LH biz seats most uncomfortable I have flown in the last 4 years (with the exception of one Rouge flight)
LH onboard meals and service far superior...crispy butter croissants in the morning, great crew
LH boarding is a disaster...AC zoned boarding far superior
LH biz seats most uncomfortable I have flown in the last 4 years (with the exception of one Rouge flight)
LH onboard meals and service far superior...crispy butter croissants in the morning, great crew
Jul 5, 2016, 6:20 am
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YYZ-MUC on LH last night
LH boarding is a disaster...AC zoned boarding far superior
LH biz seats most uncomfortable I have flown in the last 4 years (with the exception of one Rouge flight)
LH onboard meals and service far superior...crispy butter croissants in the morning, great crew
LH boarding is a disaster...AC zoned boarding far superior
LH biz seats most uncomfortable I have flown in the last 4 years (with the exception of one Rouge flight)
LH onboard meals and service far superior...crispy butter croissants in the morning, great crew
And yeah... I would take AC's new seat over LH's new(ish) seat any day of the week. The LH seats straight up hurt my back after trying to sleep on a JFK-FRA last year.
Jul 5, 2016, 11:12 am
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Were these they new LH seats with shared footrest? Or the 170 angled ones that make you feel like you are on the floor?
The only advantage I found with LH was decent affordable wifi (as opposed to no wifi).
The only advantage I found with LH was decent affordable wifi (as opposed to no wifi).
Jul 5, 2016, 11:42 am
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Agree with all the points, with a caveat on the last one: I don't necessarily think the mains on LH are better, but it's all the little things around it that make it better, like the constant stream of delicious warm breads.
And yeah... I would take AC's new seat over LH's new(ish) seat any day of the week. The LH seats straight up hurt my back after trying to sleep on a JFK-FRA last year.
And yeah... I would take AC's new seat over LH's new(ish) seat any day of the week. The LH seats straight up hurt my back after trying to sleep on a JFK-FRA last year.
Jul 5, 2016, 12:45 pm
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Jul 5, 2016, 1:53 pm
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End of May Was on LH, 1st time MUC -YYZ direction, in past my LH flights were intra-Europe
Not fan of the business class Angle seats, climb over , or you have to go to seating position for window passenger ( wife had window) to get out. Both agreed worse seat, service was slow and no attempt to keep wine glass full. Food some good some bad, but again service was slow, over all AC food and service better
If my wife voting never again on LH, me I would bite bullet if time/schedule related, but will avoid in future.
Not fan of the business class Angle seats, climb over , or you have to go to seating position for window passenger ( wife had window) to get out. Both agreed worse seat, service was slow and no attempt to keep wine glass full. Food some good some bad, but again service was slow, over all AC food and service better
If my wife voting never again on LH, me I would bite bullet if time/schedule related, but will avoid in future.
Jul 5, 2016, 4:49 pm
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End of the day even the new cabin is 2-2-2; I'd pick AC's 333 (same plane) with
3 across anyday even if it's not fully podded. Of course, this is assuming AC's one doesn't cost twice as much.
Jul 5, 2016, 6:07 pm
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I have found LH to be far superior to AC in almost every regard. I flew them and had a lie flat seat and great service. Boarding I didn't really pay attention too as it was the usual Business class got in ahead of economy.
I was given two drinks before the plane was even loaded. Those AC angled seats are not comfy, I am 6'0 and me feet were touching the end. Wifi was good on LH and meals were excellent.
I was given two drinks before the plane was even loaded. Those AC angled seats are not comfy, I am 6'0 and me feet were touching the end. Wifi was good on LH and meals were excellent.
Jul 5, 2016, 8:28 pm
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I have found LH to be far superior to AC in almost every regard. I flew them and had a lie flat seat and great service. Boarding I didn't really pay attention too as it was the usual Business class got in ahead of economy.
I was given two drinks before the plane was even loaded. Those AC angled seats are not comfy, I am 6'0 and me feet were touching the end. Wifi was good on LH and meals were excellent.
I was given two drinks before the plane was even loaded. Those AC angled seats are not comfy, I am 6'0 and me feet were touching the end. Wifi was good on LH and meals were excellent.
Jul 5, 2016, 10:36 pm
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All LH longhaul planes have been reconfigured to the new lie-flat business seats. Not industry leading, but still lie-flat. New Business class Line- or Retrofit / routes etc.
Jul 6, 2016, 7:00 am
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All LH longhaul planes have been reconfigured to the new lie-flat business seats. Not industry leading, but still lie-flat. New Business class Line- or Retrofit / routes etc.
It's like United, 97% (or something) of their fleet had wifi apparently, including all the planes on my route. When I flew it... only 1 / 5 segments had wifi...
Don't advertise what you can't deliver.
