May 7, 2017, 11:27 am
Last edit by: Adam Smith
This thread was originally started regarding the re-configuration and re-designation of Air Canada's legacy CRAs to CR9s. That project was completed in early 2018.
AC currently has five CR9s that were previously owned by SkyWest and in service with Delta. These are (fin/registration):
These aircraft are still configured with the Delta interiors, have no IFE, and may or may not have working WiFi. AC has not published any details regarding the re-configuration of these aircraft to match the existing CR9 fleet.
AC currently has five CR9s that were previously owned by SkyWest and in service with Delta. These are (fin/registration):
- 780 / C-FIJZ
- 781 / C-FJZN
- 782 / C-FOJZ
- 783 / C-FRJA
- 784 / C-GJAN
These aircraft are still configured with the Delta interiors, have no IFE, and may or may not have working WiFi. AC has not published any details regarding the re-configuration of these aircraft to match the existing CR9 fleet.
CRA/CR9 re-config and re-designation - details and progress
Mar 27, 2017, 11:02 am
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Mar 27, 2017, 1:09 pm
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No space for suit jackets in the closet this morning on 8102 because it's full of the J roll-aboards that don't fit in the pathetic excuses for overhead bins. Of course, AC could solve that by doing a proper gate check. You know, like DL and UA (and I think AA?) do on their CRJs.
I've started flying UA a lot more on that route, and it's been a nice change to have a decent size plane on UA for the 4+ hour flight. Unfortunately doesn't help with AQD if you're chasing SE status, but the lousy CRA's are one of the reasons I've given up on AC on that route.
I know other frequent travelers that avoid AC on that route for the same reason, so they're definitely losing business on that route by continuing to fly aircraft that are ill-suited. A few weeks ago, many of the IAH-YYC flights were making a fuel stop in Regina, as they sometimes can't make the full trip when headwinds are strong.
CRA's are fine on short flights if they'd deal with the overhead bin space problem by offering Skycheck, but are a poor choice for busy 4+ hour routes IMO.
Mar 27, 2017, 9:43 pm
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Dr. PITUK.
Apr 2, 2017, 7:49 am
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C-GJZV now in YUL. In service soon?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CGJZV
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CGJZV
Apr 4, 2017, 7:48 am
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Looks like one of the new CR9s is in service, C-FJZD: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CFJZD/history/320
Anyone been on it? Or seen whether it's painted in the new livery?
I often see the FAs find a way to squeeze suit jackets in on the side even with the luggage in there.
Otherwise agree with everything you said. I regularly get those AC Ipsos surveys after YYC-IAH or IAH-YYC and use every one as an opportunity to tell them how much the CRAs suck. I'm also flying UA more on that route now.
Oh, one other point about the crappy overhead bins: one of my wife's friends is a Jazz FO. He flies CRA almost exclusively. He tells me that on several occasions (and he has only been there for ~2 years), people have broken overhead bins trying to get them shut with too much luggage. This creates a delay when they then need to pull the door off completely and stow it and the luggage in the cargo hold. Never heard of that happening on an E-Jet, 320, etc (neither has he).
Thanks for sharing. Confirms CRAs are butt ugly in the new colours too.
Anyone been on it? Or seen whether it's painted in the new livery?
Unfortunately that's pretty much the norm for any CRA flight on YYC-IAH. I don't know if I've ever seen a CRA flight where the closet wasn't crammed full of roller bags for J pax (and crew?).
I've started flying UA a lot more on that route, and it's been a nice change to have a decent size plane on UA for the 4+ hour flight. Unfortunately doesn't help with AQD if you're chasing SE status, but the lousy CRA's are one of the reasons I've given up on AC on that route.
I know other frequent travelers that avoid AC on that route for the same reason, so they're definitely losing business on that route by continuing to fly aircraft that are ill-suited. A few weeks ago, many of the IAH-YYC flights were making a fuel stop in Regina, as they sometimes can't make the full trip when headwinds are strong.
CRA's are fine on short flights if they'd deal with the overhead bin space problem by offering Skycheck, but are a poor choice for busy 4+ hour routes IMO.
I've started flying UA a lot more on that route, and it's been a nice change to have a decent size plane on UA for the 4+ hour flight. Unfortunately doesn't help with AQD if you're chasing SE status, but the lousy CRA's are one of the reasons I've given up on AC on that route.
I know other frequent travelers that avoid AC on that route for the same reason, so they're definitely losing business on that route by continuing to fly aircraft that are ill-suited. A few weeks ago, many of the IAH-YYC flights were making a fuel stop in Regina, as they sometimes can't make the full trip when headwinds are strong.
CRA's are fine on short flights if they'd deal with the overhead bin space problem by offering Skycheck, but are a poor choice for busy 4+ hour routes IMO.
Otherwise agree with everything you said. I regularly get those AC Ipsos surveys after YYC-IAH or IAH-YYC and use every one as an opportunity to tell them how much the CRAs suck. I'm also flying UA more on that route now.
Oh, one other point about the crappy overhead bins: one of my wife's friends is a Jazz FO. He flies CRA almost exclusively. He tells me that on several occasions (and he has only been there for ~2 years), people have broken overhead bins trying to get them shut with too much luggage. This creates a delay when they then need to pull the door off completely and stow it and the luggage in the cargo hold. Never heard of that happening on an E-Jet, 320, etc (neither has he).
Thanks for sharing. Confirms CRAs are butt ugly in the new colours too.
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Looks like one of the new CR9s is in service, C-FJZD: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CFJZD/history/320
Anyone been on it? Or seen whether it's painted in the new livery?
I often see the FAs find a way to squeeze suit jackets in on the side even with the luggage in there.
Otherwise agree with everything you said. I regularly get those AC Ipsos surveys after YYC-IAH or IAH-YYC and use every one as an opportunity to tell them how much the CRAs suck. I'm also flying UA more on that route now.
Oh, one other point about the crappy overhead bins: one of my wife's friends is a Jazz FO. He flies CRA almost exclusively. He tells me that on several occasions (and he has only been there for ~2 years), people have broken overhead bins trying to get them shut with too much luggage. This creates a delay when they then need to pull the door off completely and stow it and the luggage in the cargo hold. Never heard of that happening on an E-Jet, 320, etc (neither has he).
Thanks for sharing. Confirms CRAs are butt ugly in the new colours too.
Anyone been on it? Or seen whether it's painted in the new livery?
I often see the FAs find a way to squeeze suit jackets in on the side even with the luggage in there.
Otherwise agree with everything you said. I regularly get those AC Ipsos surveys after YYC-IAH or IAH-YYC and use every one as an opportunity to tell them how much the CRAs suck. I'm also flying UA more on that route now.
Oh, one other point about the crappy overhead bins: one of my wife's friends is a Jazz FO. He flies CRA almost exclusively. He tells me that on several occasions (and he has only been there for ~2 years), people have broken overhead bins trying to get them shut with too much luggage. This creates a delay when they then need to pull the door off completely and stow it and the luggage in the cargo hold. Never heard of that happening on an E-Jet, 320, etc (neither has he).
Thanks for sharing. Confirms CRAs are butt ugly in the new colours too.
I actually *adore* the 705...sorry 900, in the new colors.
Apr 5, 2017, 10:58 am
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Safe to assume we're losing our 34" Y pitch on these new ones?
Flew SFO-YYC in one in February... I'd forgotten what it's like to actually be able to open your bag while still in your seat.
Flew SFO-YYC in one in February... I'd forgotten what it's like to actually be able to open your bag while still in your seat.
Apr 5, 2017, 11:04 am
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I just boarded 8335 and it is my first trip on a 900. The A side bin is taller but still not much space. I think that the DF bin looks to be about the same size as an e90. I am in J. The interior is bright with light gray leather seats. It also has the new livery. There is a noticeable increase of pitch in J.