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Aker Mar 16, 2016 10:14 pm

Using E-upgrades at the gate?
 
Flying Yvr to Yyz in a week and the flight is not fully sold out in economy but probably has approx 25 seats left on the 777. Business class is almost empty approx 20 seats open.

Would I be able to wait until the gate to see if they upgrade me without using e ups and if they don't go to the gate and ask to use my e ups? I am super elite.

pewpew Mar 16, 2016 10:16 pm


Originally Posted by Aker (Post 26344206)
Flying Yvr to Yyz in a week and the flight is not fully sold out in economy but probably has approx 25 seats left on the 777. Business class is almost empty approx 20 seats open.

Would I be able to wait until the gate to see if they upgrade me without using e ups and if they don't go to the gate and ask to use my e ups? I am super elite.

I think the problem you run into there is that they won't op-up until the gate's closed, and you can't use eUps after it's closed.

...I say, having never tried to do either of those.

canadiancow Mar 16, 2016 10:24 pm


Originally Posted by pewpew (Post 26344211)
you can't use eUps after it's closed.

Yes you can, as long as there are still seats in J.

YOWgary Mar 16, 2016 10:26 pm


Originally Posted by Aker (Post 26344206)
Flying Yvr to Yyz in a week and the flight is not fully sold out in economy but probably has approx 25 seats left on the 777. Business class is almost empty approx 20 seats open.

Would I be able to wait until the gate to see if they upgrade me without using e ups and if they don't go to the gate and ask to use my e ups? I am super elite.

Or you could just have one of the nice people here check your flight to see if there's R space, in which case you could just eUp right now.

canadiancow Mar 16, 2016 10:34 pm


Originally Posted by YOWgary (Post 26344234)
Or you could just have one of the nice people here check your flight to see if there's R space, in which case you could just eUp right now.

I thought it was pretty clear the goal was to aim for an opup, and only use eUps if necessary.

BlueMilk Mar 16, 2016 11:46 pm

CC is correct of course. It's absolutely possible.

However, OP, your scheme falls apart because of the number of eUp requests filed by the huddled masses in the back of a tripple seven YVR to YYZ. Those will all clear first, and there will be a lot of them.

I'd practice the technique on your short haul flights and sacrifice the credits on this one.

If you risk it, let us know how it goes.

Aker Mar 17, 2016 1:28 pm

seeing as the upgrade requirement was just lowered it will only cost me 4 e ups to upgrade yvr to yyz on the 777... a no brainer : )

Sean Peever Mar 17, 2016 9:25 pm


Originally Posted by Aker (Post 26344206)
Flying Yvr to Yyz in a week and the flight is not fully sold out in economy but probably has approx 25 seats left on the 777. Business class is almost empty approx 20 seats open.

Would I be able to wait until the gate to see if they upgrade me without using e ups and if they don't go to the gate and ask to use my e ups? I am super elite.

I'd be careful with your numbers and assumptions there. How do you know there are 25 seats left? How do you know there are 20 seats open in J?

At most all you can know is that there are 9Y and 9J seats left.

Aker Mar 17, 2016 10:17 pm

If you go online and try to book a seat it shows you what seats are open...

Sean Peever Mar 17, 2016 10:26 pm


Originally Posted by Aker (Post 26349079)
If you go online and try to book a seat it shows you what seats are open...

You can't go by that at all, there are many reasons why the seat map is not correct. Just because it shows 20 empty seats it does not mean there are 20 seats for sale. There could be 20 empty seats but only 1 left for sale.

yyznomad Mar 18, 2016 2:48 am


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 26344228)
Yes you can, as long as there are still seats in J.

Is one also at the mercy of how lazy the gate agent is?

Everything is a function of how lazy the AC staff is. After 2 million miles on AC metal and hundreds of thousands of dollars spent, they still barely lift a finger... But I guess after all those coffee breaks and eating donuts, those chubby fingers become difficult to lift.

canadiancow Mar 18, 2016 10:49 am


Originally Posted by yyznomad (Post 26349580)
Is one also at the mercy of how lazy the gate agent is?

Everything is a function of how lazy the AC staff is. After 2 million miles on AC metal and hundreds of thousands of dollars spent, they still barely lift a finger... But I guess after all those coffee breaks and eating donuts, those chubby fingers become difficult to lift.

Yes, but I never run into problems with reasonable requests (like requesting an upgrade) once my BP is in front of them and they see my status.

I recently tried to upgrade someone else, at the gate, after boarding had begun, and had no pushback.

yyznomad Mar 19, 2016 3:17 am


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 26351176)
Yes, but I never run into problems with reasonable requests (like requesting an upgrade) once my BP is in front of them and they see my status.

I recently tried to upgrade someone else, at the gate, after boarding had begun, and had no pushback.

You have the magic touch, sir. Kudos. Maybe there is a comment about me in the system that says yyznomad sucks even though he spends a whackload on AC.

acysb87 Mar 19, 2016 6:53 am


Originally Posted by yyznomad (Post 26354281)
You have the magic touch, sir. Kudos. Maybe there is a comment about me in the system that says yyznomad sucks even though he spends a whackload on AC.


I may have a magic touch as well. Have had great success with upgrades at gate as well as changing flights on flex tickets without the change fee.

You sound very disgruntled with AC yet continue to "spends a whackload on AC" as well as fly them weekly if not daily. :confused:

Sean Peever Mar 19, 2016 9:24 am


Originally Posted by yyznomad (Post 26354281)
You have the magic touch, sir. Kudos. Maybe there is a comment about me in the system that says yyznomad sucks even though he spends a whackload on AC.

Ok, you have been venting a lot! I want to try something. Let's both take the same flight and both make some kind of request at the same time and see what happens :).

canadiancow Mar 19, 2016 9:32 am


Originally Posted by Sean Peever (Post 26355105)
Ok, you have been venting a lot! I want to try something. Let's both take the same flight and both make some kind of request at the same time and see what happens :).

Are you suggesting that your attitude may determine your altitude?

superangrypenguin Mar 19, 2016 9:32 am


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 26355134)
Are you suggesting that your attitude may determine your altitude?

I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. :D

Sean Peever Mar 19, 2016 9:38 am


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 26355134)
Are you suggesting that your attitude may determine your altitude?

;)

knotseh Mar 19, 2016 9:46 am

So not sure if I should have started a new thread. But if I wanted to eUp a person travelling on the same flight but not same PnR. Do you just go to the GA with both BP's and ask them to eUP on the other person? (assume status or non-status)
Is there also a way to eUp them before you get to the gate or even the airport? Like just by calling the altitude line...etc?

superangrypenguin Mar 19, 2016 9:48 am


Originally Posted by knotseh (Post 26355182)
So not sure if I should have started a new thread. But if I wanted to eUp a person travelling on the same flight but not same PnR. Do you just go to the GA with both BP's and ask them to eUP on the other person? (assume status or non-status)
Is there also a way to eUp them before you get to the gate or even the airport? Like just by calling the altitude line...etc?

If you have access to a concierge, then they can do it for a flight departing the same day. If you do not, you have to go to the gate.

agjil Mar 19, 2016 10:06 am


Originally Posted by superangrypenguin (Post 26355188)
If you have access to a concierge, then they can do it for a flight departing the same day. If you do not, you have to go to the gate.

Can you also do it at the check-in counter at the airport?

superangrypenguin Mar 19, 2016 10:10 am


Originally Posted by agjil (Post 26355261)
Can you also do it at the check-in counter at the airport?

I do not know for sure. I only have a sample size of 1 as I've tried to do this at the counter and they told me to buzz off, politely.

BlueMilk Mar 19, 2016 10:11 am


Originally Posted by agjil (Post 26355261)
Can you also do it at the check-in counter at the airport?

Yes. This is better than at the gate. Doing it there ensures that the request gets into the queue. At the gate, lower priorities (including op-ups and non-rev) could get ahead of your request.

Lounge agents also can do this.

knotseh Mar 19, 2016 10:18 am


Originally Posted by BlueMilk (Post 26355290)
Yes. This is better than at the gate. Doing it there ensures that the request gets into the queue. At the gate, lower priorities (including op-ups and non-rev) could get ahead of your request.

Lounge agents also can do this.

Good to know!
Thanks Guys,

Last question! I'm currently E35K, assuming that R space is 0 which it would be by then since the flight is under airport control. Would my request just be in order of status? eg) If I upgrade a friend with no-status from my account, they would be ahead of a P25k requesting an upgrade still?

agjil Mar 19, 2016 10:22 am


Originally Posted by knotseh (Post 26355321)
Good to know!
Thanks Guys,

Last question! I'm currently E35K, assuming that R space is 0 which it would be by then since the flight is under airport control. Would my request just be in order of status? eg) If I upgrade a friend with no-status from my account, they would be ahead of a P25k requesting an upgrade still?

Your friend will have the same status priority as you until the check-in window opens for the flight (T-24 hours).
Once check-in opens, then your friend is on his/her own, and if your friend has no status, he/she will be at the bottom of the upgrade waitlist.

superangrypenguin Mar 19, 2016 10:22 am


Originally Posted by knotseh (Post 26355321)
Good to know!
Thanks Guys,

Last question! I'm currently E35K, assuming that R space is 0 which it would be by then since the flight is under airport control. Would my request just be in order of status? eg) If I upgrade a friend with no-status from my account, they would be ahead of a P25k requesting an upgrade still?

Your friend clears under his own status. So he'd be near the bottom.

Transpacificflyer Mar 19, 2016 11:40 am


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 26344257)
I thought it was pretty clear the goal was to aim for an opup, and only use eUps if necessary.

You speak FT code…. You cloud talker :p


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