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thefareguru Jan 7, 2003 8:05 pm
AIFs
 
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MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT ON AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT FEES
DATED SEPTEMBER 23, 1997


                                        For Ticket        For Travel                Tax
                                              Sold                Scheduled            Treatment
Airports                        Code        Amount $        On/After                  On/After                GST        QST        HST

Calgary                YYC        5        October 01/97        October 01/97        x        -        -
                        10        July 18/98        January 01/99
                        12        July 01/01        October 01/01

Kelowna                YLW        5        February 01/98        February 01/98        x        -        -

Winnipeg                YWG        5        July 01/98        July 01/98        x        -        -
                        10        June 01/99        October 01/99


MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT ON AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT FEES
DATED MAY 31, 1999


Ottawa                YOW        10        August 01/99        September 01/99        x        -        -
                        15        January 01/03        January 01/03

Saskatoon                YXE        5        August 01/99        September 01/99        x        -        -

St. John's                YYT        10        September 01/99        October 01/99        -        -        x

Regina                YQR        10        September 01/99        October 01/99        x        -        -

Victoria                YYJ        5        September 01/99        October 01/99        x        -        -

Edmonton                YEG        10        October 1/99        January 05/00        x        -        -
                        15        May 01/02        July 01/02

London                YXU        4        December 01/99        January 01/00        x        -        -
                        7        April 01/01        April 01/01
                        10        September 01/01        September 01/01

Timmins                YTS        10        January 01/00        February 01/00        x        -        -

Calgary *                YYC        10        June 01/00        June 01/00        x        -        -
                        12        July 01/01        October 01/01

Lethbridge                YQL        5        October 01/00        October 01/00        x        -        -

Winnipeg *                YWG        10        June 01/00        June 01/00        x        -        -

Kelowna *                YLW        5        September 06/00        September 06/00        x        -        -
                        8        March 01/02        March 01/02

Halifax                YHZ        10        December 01/00        January 01/01        -        -        x

Sault Ste Marie                YAM        5        November 12/00        January 01/01        x        -        -
                        10        January 01/02        January 01/02

Hamilton                YHM        5        April 30/01        June 01/01        x        -        -
                        10        May 1/02        June 1/02

Quebec City                YQB        5        May 01/01        May 01/01        x        x        -
                        10        September 15/01        September 15/01

Gander                YQX        12        July 01/01        July 01/01        -        -        x

Fort St. John                YXJ        10        January 01/02        March 01/02        x        -        -


 
 


2


MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT ON PASSENGER FACILITY FEES
DATED JULY 1, 2001


                                        For Ticket        For Travel                Tax
                                                      Sold                Scheduled            Treatment
Airports                        Code        Amount $        On/After                  On/After                GST        QST        HST


Comox Valley                YQQ        5        April 01/02        April 10/02        x        -        -

Fredericton                YFC        12        July 01/01        July 01/01        -        -        x

Thompson                YTH        10        January 01/02        January 01/02        x        -        -

Castlegar                YCG        7        July 01/02        July 01/02        x        -        -

Bathurst                ZBF        12        July 01/02        August 01/02        -        -        x

Windsor                YQG        10        August 01/02        September 01/02        x        -        x
[This message has been edited by thefareguru (edited 01-07-2003).]

FlyerGoldII Jan 7, 2003 8:34 pm
Thank you, for the information.

I did not see the AIFs (paid at the airport) for YVR or YUL. In addition, I did not see the information for YYZ.

Altaflyer Jan 8, 2003 10:28 am
Just hypothetically speaking http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif, if one were undercharged AIF on a ticket what consequences would this have for the airline? How do the airports know what $$ to collect from the airlines for AIFs?

thefareguru Jan 8, 2003 11:06 am
FGII, I see that. This was a download from the Galileo site for TAs and I just slapped it in here without looking. Very strange.

DirtySeatPocket Jan 9, 2003 4:31 pm
Does anyone know why YVR doesn't 'bury' the AIF in the cost of the ticket?

I've heard they don't because the airlines don't want to administer it. Well, I've also heard (not seen for myself) that other CDN airports such as YYC include the cost in the ticket.

Having said that, aren't all airlines going out of YYC collecting the fees on somone else's behalf? If so - then why not at YVR?

This could be much less aggravating. Going through the US departure run-around every week at YVR:
1) optionally buy AIF ticket at machine
2) check in
3) fill out the US immigration card
4) show your boarding pass and completed immigration card to some guard
5) schlep your bags through duty free store trying not to break anything
6) line up with US Immigration
7) line up with US Customs
7a) slim chance to get pulled aside at this point by the US for them to do a random search of all baggage/carry on
8) throw your bags on the belt
9) line up in a sometimes-horrendous line to buy your AIF ticket if you didn't see/know about the machine in step 1
10) line up to show proof of AIF payment and boarding pass check
11) go through security
12) ahhhhh, the Maple Leaf Lounge

Yep...I'm getting a bit off point here and I'm venting since I do this weekly. But including the AIF in the ticket would make this all a wee bit easier.

Well, that's my 2 cents worth.

YOWkid Jan 9, 2003 6:17 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by DirtySeatPocket:
I've heard they don't because the airlines don't want to administer it. Well, I've also heard (not seen for myself) that other CDN airports such as YYC include the cost in the ticket.</font>
One of my profs told me that YOW and YYC were buried because the airport authorities agreed to work together with the different airlines and to listen to their comments and concerns and execute them. YVR and YUL said to hell with that. But, I, of course, stand to be corrected...

lubicon Jan 10, 2003 10:08 am
YOWKid, I've heard the same thing. If the airport authorities are willing to 'work' with the airlines and allow them some input into the airport developements, the airlines will collect the fee as part of the ticket. Apparently YUL and YVR won't / don't agree with this and as such have to collect the fees on their own.

Just what I've heard.

Altaflyer Jan 10, 2003 10:15 am
I heard it had something to do with airlines wanting representation on the boards of the authorities and YVR was not willing to give them any.

Andrew Yiu Jan 10, 2003 11:01 am
I'm sure I've heard that YUL has worked it out and the $15 AIF will soon be included in the ticket price.

FewMiles Jan 10, 2003 12:17 pm
And why is it that we have to pay GST on top of these fees? Airport "improvement" is hardly a service, IMHO. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

FewMiles..

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