Jun 21, 2018, 3:36 pm
Last edit by: canadiancow
Pertinent details/events/articles:
- https://goo.gl/ioL7Tx
- Original email sent to Mr. Wong, accusing him of abuse of MLL privileges: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26733198-post38.html
- CBC article: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...ourt-1.4717202
- VFTW post: https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2018/06/22/man-has-airline-status-yanked-for-refunding-tickets-after-using-airport-lounges-now-hes-suing/
- FBT story Air Canada ‘Super Elite’ Sues Airline After Status is Revoked for Using Airport Lounges Without Flying
- TPG post: https://thepointsguy.com/news/air-canada-super-elite-traveler-sues-carrier-over-revoked-airline-status/
Super Elite suspended; lawsuit filed but amicably settled out of court
Jun 25, 2018, 9:52 pm
#646
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Putting that aside for the moment, the way the story was reported, it seems like AC added SSSS to his boarding pass after he got his initial boarding pass, cleared US immigration & security and was getting ready to board by a (presumably) a vindictive AC employee. This story I thought would be indicative of the grudges and disdain some (certainly not all) AC employees have to travellers, especially when they're on a power trip!
Jun 26, 2018, 3:53 am
#647
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Patently untrue. Most lawyers are on the same page as their clients. I have never known of a law firm or lawyer to share anything to anyone other than their clients (that is true), but if a lawyer is not sharing everything he/she knows about the case and on the same page wrt strategy, then I would humbly suggest to fire said lawyer.
Jun 26, 2018, 10:09 am
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Some flight attendants spend that much time working "along side of" pilots. Doesn't mean they know how to fly a plane, nor the rules of aviation.
Jun 26, 2018, 11:32 am
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But they sure know more than the average Joe about aviation, much like the general audience here doesn't know much about the law. Just trying to help, and just like I seek no enjoyment from watching sports, I just skip that on the TV - suggested you do the same.
Jun 26, 2018, 12:49 pm
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There's a saying - often directed towards the 'thousand hour' pilots - that they know just enough to get themselves into trouble. A range of experience exists, between being a novice in a particular subject and an expert in same, in which most of the more egregious and preventable errors occur. The key is being able to recognize one's own limitations before wading in beyond one's depth.
Jun 26, 2018, 1:01 pm
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There's a saying - often directed towards the 'thousand hour' pilots - that they know just enough to get themselves into trouble. A range of experience exists, between being a novice in a particular subject and an expert in same, in which most of the more egregious and preventable errors occur. The key is being able to recognize one's own limitations before wading in beyond one's depth.
Moving on.
Jun 26, 2018, 1:39 pm
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Yes, let's please move on and get back to the actual thread topic.
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Jun 26, 2018, 3:59 pm
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I find a bit of irony over the fact for years here on this site I have read many posts along the lines of "I am finished with Aeroplan or Air Canada" and am moving my hard earned money to an airline or points programme that will be so much better.
And here we have someone suing to get back into the fold when many other are running away as fast as they can.
And here we have someone suing to get back into the fold when many other are running away as fast as they can.
Jun 26, 2018, 4:27 pm
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I find a bit of irony over the fact for years here on this site I have read many posts along the lines of "I am finished with Aeroplan or Air Canada" and am moving my hard earned money to an airline or points programme that will be so much better.
And here we have someone suing to get back into the fold when many other are running away as fast as they can.
And here we have someone suing to get back into the fold when many other are running away as fast as they can.
Jun 26, 2018, 5:31 pm
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I find a bit of irony over the fact for years here on this site I have read many posts along the lines of "I am finished with Aeroplan or Air Canada" and am moving my hard earned money to an airline or points programme that will be so much better.
And here we have someone suing to get back into the fold when many other are running away as fast as they can.
And here we have someone suing to get back into the fold when many other are running away as fast as they can.
Bottom line - regardless, OP sees his encounters from AC were not justified. OP is within his rights to pursue redress legally if available.
Jun 26, 2018, 7:53 pm
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Jun 26, 2018, 8:10 pm
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Jun 26, 2018, 8:43 pm
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The irony of underestimating the value of being "Super Elite?" It is not only of economic value, but also of significant prestige to have that metal plastic tag with red, or now silver, plastic metal strap demonstrating not only a tenure of eliteness, but current qualification with this year's colours. It is not only a status, but also a membership in a club of elites, as it is so branded. And, Benjamin Smith personally sends a letter welcoming each and every one of us (well, not me presently) annually, all the way to the budding P25 ranks. Others are sourgraping perhaps...