Flight Pass Shenanigans
#76
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I think cow recently went over the rules for connections.
Can't find the thread,but I think he said 4h for domestic, 6h for TB, 24h for International. Longer connections only if you are forced to.
Maybe he can post back here, I dont feel like going through 1000 posts of EYW stuff.
Can't find the thread,but I think he said 4h for domestic, 6h for TB, 24h for International. Longer connections only if you are forced to.
Maybe he can post back here, I dont feel like going through 1000 posts of EYW stuff.
But flight passes have very different rules.
#77
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Are you sure TB is 4h too?
As for flight passes, I wouldn't say that. Now every time an agent will say "I can't book this route cause it's ineligible" FTers will doubt themselves lol
TBH, considering some of thr silly options the FP engine displays, I just assumed all of it is mostly broken, and that the engine doesn't understand flight pathing rules correctly.
As for flight passes, I wouldn't say that. Now every time an agent will say "I can't book this route cause it's ineligible" FTers will doubt themselves lol
TBH, considering some of thr silly options the FP engine displays, I just assumed all of it is mostly broken, and that the engine doesn't understand flight pathing rules correctly.
#78
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Are you sure TB is 4h too?
As for flight passes, I wouldn't say that. Now every time an agent will say "I can't book this route cause it's ineligible" FTers will doubt themselves lol
TBH, considering some of thr silly options the FP engine displays, I just assumed all of it is mostly broken, and that the engine doesn't understand flight pathing rules correctly.
As for flight passes, I wouldn't say that. Now every time an agent will say "I can't book this route cause it's ineligible" FTers will doubt themselves lol
TBH, considering some of thr silly options the FP engine displays, I just assumed all of it is mostly broken, and that the engine doesn't understand flight pathing rules correctly.
#79
Join Date: May 2005
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Hi All!
Bumping this thread to try and get some understanding around Flex passes and segments.
I just bought a flex pass, primarily for YYZ-YOW. But it looks like I can fly YTZ-YOW through YUL (I live very close to YTZ so despite connecting through YUL I could save time and aggravation, especially for flights that come in at rush hour).
If I do YTZ - YUL - YOW do I end up with 2 AQS? Or are there AQS rules surrounding flight passes? It looks like each direction is only one credit, no matter what the connections are.
Bumping this thread to try and get some understanding around Flex passes and segments.
I just bought a flex pass, primarily for YYZ-YOW. But it looks like I can fly YTZ-YOW through YUL (I live very close to YTZ so despite connecting through YUL I could save time and aggravation, especially for flights that come in at rush hour).
If I do YTZ - YUL - YOW do I end up with 2 AQS? Or are there AQS rules surrounding flight passes? It looks like each direction is only one credit, no matter what the connections are.
#80
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Hi All!
Bumping this thread to try and get some understanding around Flex passes and segments.
I just bought a flex pass, primarily for YYZ-YOW. But it looks like I can fly YTZ-YOW through YUL (I live very close to YTZ so despite connecting through YUL I could save time and aggravation, especially for flights that come in at rush hour).
If I do YTZ - YUL - YOW do I end up with 2 AQS? Or are there AQS rules surrounding flight passes? It looks like each direction is only one credit, no matter what the connections are.
Bumping this thread to try and get some understanding around Flex passes and segments.
I just bought a flex pass, primarily for YYZ-YOW. But it looks like I can fly YTZ-YOW through YUL (I live very close to YTZ so despite connecting through YUL I could save time and aggravation, especially for flights that come in at rush hour).
If I do YTZ - YUL - YOW do I end up with 2 AQS? Or are there AQS rules surrounding flight passes? It looks like each direction is only one credit, no matter what the connections are.
#81
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If I wanted to buy a FP so I can easily go see friends at the drop of a hat on my days off and build of AQS while at it, will I be able to book say the 3 segment options I see when I am booking one flight at a time, or does the FP software restrict the amount of connections. (and yes, I understand if I book last minute options might be slim). Looking at buying a Latitude Western Canada FP.
#82
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If I wanted to buy a FP so I can easily go see friends at the drop of a hat on my days off and build of AQS while at it, will I be able to book say the 3 segment options I see when I am booking one flight at a time, or does the FP software restrict the amount of connections. (and yes, I understand if I book last minute options might be slim). Looking at buying a Latitude Western Canada FP.
#83
Join Date: Dec 2006
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If I wanted to buy a FP so I can easily go see friends at the drop of a hat on my days off and build of AQS while at it, will I be able to book say the 3 segment options I see when I am booking one flight at a time, or does the FP software restrict the amount of connections. (and yes, I understand if I book last minute options might be slim). Looking at buying a Latitude Western Canada FP.
#84
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Although we know sometimes it varies - I'll be offered YYZ-YUL/YOW-MCO when I don't want it but on an occasion when I did (because the YYZ-MCO were not at convenient times), I wasn't. However, they were able to change it after booking.
#85
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I have a question to latitude FP NA/Europe that has 2 names on account. In this case Mrs.acysb87
Would Mrs.acysb87 be needing 11 ecredits to u/g to J (one way) as she is on my pass. I am SE, she has no status with AC
Would Mrs.acysb87 be needing 11 ecredits to u/g to J (one way) as she is on my pass. I am SE, she has no status with AC
#86
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I had to call in and was told to request the upgrade at the airport.
Since it was R8 at that point I cancelled both of our bookings and rebooked as a one way with 2 pax and this time I could upgrade both of us right away for 11 credits each! So, I think if you're on the same pnr it should work (subject to AC IT shenanigans)
#88
Join Date: Mar 2005
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i have an east-west latitude connector that I purchased in march of this year. i used it mostly for YTZ-(yul)-YYC/YVR, and i haven't made a booking in a few months.
however now whenever ytz is selected as origin, I can only get yul!! yyc or yvr cannot be selected and the flight pass call center is saying that's just the way it is and that they can change the terms, after being on hold for 70 minutes at 0100hrs est no less.
i see they added yyj and ylw (or maybe i'm only noticing this now) but this is a bait and switch! or hopefully just a technical glitch? i can't even find t+c of origin/destination anywhere, and yes i read the t+c that you see on the purchase page yes Ref: CONFPLT
however now whenever ytz is selected as origin, I can only get yul!! yyc or yvr cannot be selected and the flight pass call center is saying that's just the way it is and that they can change the terms, after being on hold for 70 minutes at 0100hrs est no less.
i see they added yyj and ylw (or maybe i'm only noticing this now) but this is a bait and switch! or hopefully just a technical glitch? i can't even find t+c of origin/destination anywhere, and yes i read the t+c that you see on the purchase page yes Ref: CONFPLT
Last edited by cur; Dec 12, 2019 at 2:16 am
#89
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i have an east-west latitude connector that I purchased in march of this year. i used it mostly for YTZ-(yul)-YYC/YVR, and i haven't made a booking in a few months.
however now whenever ytz is selected as origin, I can only get yul!! yyc or yvr cannot be selected and the flight pass call center is saying that's just the way it is and that they can change the terms, after being on hold for 70 minutes at 0100hrs est no less.
i see they added yyj and ylw (or maybe i'm only noticing this) but this is a bait and switch! or hopefully just a technical glitch? i can't even find t+c of origin/destination anywhere, and yes i read the t+c that you see on the purchase page yes Ref: CONFPLT
however now whenever ytz is selected as origin, I can only get yul!! yyc or yvr cannot be selected and the flight pass call center is saying that's just the way it is and that they can change the terms, after being on hold for 70 minutes at 0100hrs est no less.
i see they added yyj and ylw (or maybe i'm only noticing this) but this is a bait and switch! or hopefully just a technical glitch? i can't even find t+c of origin/destination anywhere, and yes i read the t+c that you see on the purchase page yes Ref: CONFPLT
I see this when doing a sample booking with the pass.
Perhaps you'll have to UPX it to YYZ for now...?
Last edited by yyznomad; Dec 12, 2019 at 1:24 am
#90
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Nevermind - at first I thought you meant that YYC and YVR weren't on the EW pass anymore, but what you meant was when you select your origin as YTZ, you only have YUL and nothing else to be able to choose from.
I see this when doing a sample booking with the pass.
Perhaps you'll have to UPX it to YYZ for now...?
I see this when doing a sample booking with the pass.
Perhaps you'll have to UPX it to YYZ for now...?