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The Official Fare Bucket Check Request Thread

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Attention: You DO NOT need ExpertFlyer to do a simple fare availability check! READ LOWER IN THIS WIKI FOR DETAILS regarding the BCD Availability site.

FARE AVAILABILITY REQUESTS

For those of you inquiring about fare class availability but don't have access to EF or KVS, then you can use this thread to make your request.
At a minimum (mandatory), please provide:
1. Operating Airline
2. Flight Number (airport to airport name not necessary but wouldn't hurt to include)
3. Date of travel (or multiple dates for flexibility)

It may be helpful (optional) to also include:
4. The specific fare class(es) you are interested in (if applicable)
5. If the flight(s) you are inquiring about are part of a multi-segment itinerary, it may be helpful to include all segments (e.g. A -> B -> C) even if you only care about one of them.


ALTERNATIVE: DIY!

BCD Travel Tool for Fare Availability

FYI for those of you who don't have access to EF or KVS and feel that doing your own query suffices... this is a free availability checker site (BCD) from one of the travel blogger sites:
CLICK HERE for BCD Travel Fare Availability Tool

1. The "hover over" results can be copied and then pasted to a document editor, however, you may want to manually format the results to your liking
2. It doesn't return any fare class that is zeroed out, so for example, if you are looking for "R" and it doesn't show on the returned fare classes, it simply means that it is R0.
3. This is "bare bones" and doesn't have features like alerts, saved queries, etc.
4. You can only search for dates starting from today to within 10 months from today.
5. Requires Captcha (human) verification, so it can get annoying if you're doing multiple successive queries


Example of what the hover over result looks like:

BookingClass - Seat Availability
J - 9
C - 9
D - 9
Z - 9
P - 9
R - 3
O - 7
E - 6
Y - 9
B - 9
M - 9
U - 9
H - 9
Q - 9
V - 9
W - 9
G - 9
S - 9


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Old May 22, 19, 10:00 am
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Originally Posted by yyznomad View Post
@CanadianMike


Updated:
I just checked AC309 and AC33 for June 23 and at this juncture:

AC309 is R6
AC33 is R7
I find myself confused that AC309 is not showing any I or X class in EF. What am I doing wrong?
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Old May 22, 19, 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by WaytoomuchEurope View Post
I find myself confused that AC309 is not showing any I or X class in EF. What am I doing wrong?
I'm looking at BCD. I don't have an EF account and haven't had one in awhile.
My understanding has always been EF and other tools do not show actual AP reward space such as X and I classes.
Can you find any Air Canada flight that shows I or X in EF? If so, then either it's new or I just never knew about it that functionality/feature.

Hence many here simply go by R availability to inform potential (read: not guaranteed) I availability.
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Old May 22, 19, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by yyznomad View Post
I'm looking at BCD. I don't have an EF account and haven't had one in awhile.
My understanding has always been EF and other tools do not show actual AP reward space such as X and I classes.
Can you find any Air Canada flight that shows I or X in EF? If so, then either it's new or I just never knew about it that functionality/feature.

Hence many here simply go by R availability to inform potential (read: not guaranteed) I availability.
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Old May 22, 19, 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by yyznomad View Post
@CanadianMike
From anecdotal evidence (because nobody here has actual proof, that I am aware of), R inventory is a relatively good indicator (but not necessarily exact) of I class availability (AP J rewards).
And this has nothing to do with EF per se... it's just that EF allows us to see these numbers, no different than the BCD Availability tool as per this thread's wiki.

Updated:
I just checked AC309 and AC33 for June 23 and at this juncture:

AC309 is R6
AC33 is R7
Appreciate it. I guess there's no way to know if / when that space will open and appear on the AE website to book?
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Old May 22, 19, 10:21 am
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Thanks, TIL.

Originally Posted by CanadianMike View Post
Appreciate it. I guess there's no way to know if / when that space will open and appear on the AE website to book?
Without a tool like EF (assuming you can put alerts on I/X, which it looks like you can from WTME's screenshot)? I don't know of any other way other than calling in every day. Other reward booking experts may be able to chime in on this.
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Old May 22, 19, 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by yyznomad View Post
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Thanks, TIL.


Without a tool like EF (assuming you can put alerts on I/X, which it looks like you can from WTME's screenshot)? I don't know of any other way other than calling in every day. Other reward booking experts may be able to chime in on this.
Frankly that was my primary motivator for purchasing EF originally.

I now rely more on KVS for reward / mini-RTW planning and EF more for tactical purposes while travelling but if you really want to plan reward flights, having one of these tools will make your life a little simpler.
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Old May 22, 19, 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Bohemian1 View Post
Frankly that was my primary motivator for purchasing EF originally.

I now rely more on KVS for reward / mini-RTW planning and EF more for tactical purposes while travelling but if you really want to plan reward flights, having one of these tools will make your life a little simpler.
Oh yes, I forgot about KVS. I used it a long time ago (mid-2000s) for a few years and quite liked it.
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Old May 22, 19, 1:56 pm
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Originally Posted by yyznomad View Post
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From anecdotal evidence (because nobody here has actual proof, that I am aware of), R inventory is a relatively good indicator (but not necessarily exact) of I class availability (AP J rewards).
And this has nothing to do with EF per se... it's just that EF allows us to see these numbers, no different than the BCD Availability tool as per this thread's wiki.
Ugh I wrote up a reply on the train, but apparently the tunnel prevented it from getting posted.

R is a good indicator of IKK space. The only relation to I is that R >> I. R9 I0 is common. R0 I>0 is exceptionally rare. Yes, lots of R is a better sign than no R, but for a non-SE, I don't think it's a particularly useful fare class to bother checking.
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Old May 22, 19, 1:59 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow View Post
Ugh I wrote up a reply on the train, but apparently the tunnel prevented it from getting posted.

R is a good indicator of IKK space. The only relation to I is that R >> I. R9 I0 is common. R0 I>0 is exceptionally rare. Yes, lots of R is a better sign than no R, but for a non-SE, I don't think it's a particularly useful fare class to bother checking.
Fair enough.
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Old Aug 8, 19, 12:39 pm
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eUpgrade availability AC 116, AC 186 August 12, 2019

Hi Flyers,

Just wondering if anyone can check the availability of eUpgrades (economy to business) for AC116 and AC186 on August 12, 2019 for me?

Would really appreciate it.

Thanks,
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Old Aug 8, 19, 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by ACFlyer90 View Post
Hi Flyers,

Just wondering if anyone can check the availability of eUpgrades (economy to business) for AC116 and AC186 on August 12, 2019 for me?

Would really appreciate it.

Thanks,

I assume you were looking for this info?

AC 116: J8 C7 D7 Z6 P2 R0 O3 E3 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V5 W3 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0

AC 186: J9 C9 D9 Z9 P5 R0 O3 E3 N1 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q6 V3 W1 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0


And this would be the thread

The Official Fare Bucket Check Request Thread
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Old Aug 8, 19, 12:52 pm
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Thanks - I really appreciate it.
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