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The Official Fare Bucket Check Request Thread

The Official Fare Bucket Check Request Thread

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Attention: You DO NOT need ExpertFlyer to do a simple fare availability check! READ LOWER IN THIS WIKI FOR DETAILS regarding the BCD Availability site.

FARE AVAILABILITY REQUESTS

For those of you inquiring about fare class availability but don't have access to EF or KVS, then you can use this thread to make your request.
At a minimum (mandatory), please provide:
1. Operating Airline
2. Flight Number (airport to airport name not necessary but wouldn't hurt to include)
3. Date of travel (or multiple dates for flexibility)

It may be helpful (optional) to also include:
4. The specific fare class(es) you are interested in (if applicable)
5. If the flight(s) you are inquiring about are part of a multi-segment itinerary, it may be helpful to include all segments (e.g. A -> B -> C) even if you only care about one of them.


ALTERNATIVE: DIY!

BCD Travel Tool for Fare Availability

FYI for those of you who don't have access to EF or KVS and feel that doing your own query suffices... this is a free availability checker site (BCD) from one of the travel blogger sites:
CLICK HERE for BCD Travel Fare Availability Tool

1. The "hover over" results can be copied and then pasted to a document editor, however, you may want to manually format the results to your liking
2. It doesn't return any fare class that is zeroed out, so for example, if you are looking for "R" and it doesn't show on the returned fare classes, it simply means that it is R0.
3. This is "bare bones" and doesn't have features like alerts, saved queries, etc.
4. You can only search for dates starting from today to within 10 months from today.
5. Requires Captcha (human) verification, so it can get annoying if you're doing multiple successive queries


Example of what the hover over result looks like:

BookingClass - Seat Availability
J - 9
C - 9
D - 9
Z - 9
P - 9
R - 3
O - 7
E - 6
Y - 9
B - 9
M - 9
U - 9
H - 9
Q - 9
V - 9
W - 9
G - 9
S - 9


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Old Apr 25, 19, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by geordie View Post
Cheers Plumber, appreciate this!
I was hoping this would not be the case as this is the "extra" evening flight...ah well!
Would not surprise me to see some Op-Ups into PE and/or Business.

I am flying west within Canada tomorrow (Apr 26) and most, if not all of the flights going West from YOW, YUL and YYZ seem full or oversold.
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Old May 14, 19, 1:31 pm
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Would someone be able to check/confirm the loads of AC 63 for May 17th? I checked on BCD and they seem quite light...

J - 9, C - 9, D - 9, Z - 9, P - 9, R - 9, O - 9, E - 9, N - 9, Y - 9, B - 9, M - 9, U - 9, H - 9, Q - 9, V - 9, W - 9, G - 9, S - 9, T - 9, L - 9, K - 9
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Old May 14, 19, 1:33 pm
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first time doing this, hope i didn't mess it up!
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Old May 14, 19, 1:38 pm
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Perfect - thank you!

Seems like it should be a somewhat empty flight unless I'm missing something.
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Old May 14, 19, 1:40 pm
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Yeah I took a look at the seat preview as if I was purchasing the ticket from AC, 1 J seat occupied, and a few other Y seats blocked off too. Curious to see what ends up happening
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Old May 14, 19, 2:58 pm
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Originally Posted by YVRPPL View Post
Would someone be able to check/confirm the loads of AC 63 for May 17th? I checked on BCD and they seem quite light...

J - 9, C - 9, D - 9, Z - 9, P - 9, R - 9, O - 9, E - 9, N - 9, Y - 9, B - 9, M - 9, U - 9, H - 9, Q - 9, V - 9, W - 9, G - 9, S - 9, T - 9, L - 9, K - 9
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BCD will yield the same results as EF.

Originally Posted by asovse1 View Post
first time doing this, hope i didn't mess it up!
@asovse1
It's easier and faster (and arguably cleaner), to use the bb code copy function on EF and the paste it here. Just a FYI.

Originally Posted by YVRPPL View Post
Perfect - thank you!

Seems like it should be a somewhat empty flight unless I'm missing something.
No, you're not missing anything based on the current published availability (willing to sell numbers).
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Old May 14, 19, 4:09 pm
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J and O are just shy of 50% booked, with Y just under 75%.

Amusing how 70% overall load is now considered "light" and "empty"
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Old May 14, 19, 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow View Post
J and O are just shy of 50% booked, with Y just under 75%.

Amusing how 70% overall load is now considered "light" and "empty"
When the bulk of Y subclasses still show "9", that's all we can go by. (I guess add the seatmap for some inference, although not always a great measure)

But if you'd be willing to build us an app that shows internal numbers, I would be the first one to subscribe to it.
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Old May 14, 19, 4:17 pm
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Originally Posted by yyznomad View Post
When the bulk of Y subclasses still show "9", that's all we can go by. (I guess add the seatmap for some inference, although not always a great measure)

But if you'd be willing to build us an app that shows internal numbers, I would be the first one to subscribe to it.
Just call and say the magic words "revenue management". Not only will they give you the real loads, but they'll also give you a free upgrade!

(source: https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...e-first-class/)
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Old May 21, 19, 10:18 pm
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Any kind folks willing to check some availability for me? AE has none listed but seems to (? randomly) open some up.
miniRTW so looking for award J space.

Sunday June 23rd:
AC309 YUL - YVR @ 1830
AC33 YYZ - YVR @ 2015

If anyone can also comment on if there's some known method to how AE releases space that would be appreciated.
I've been checking daily and there would be days with no direct J availability, then today I noticed a few flights open.
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Old May 21, 19, 11:04 pm
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[QUOTE=CanadianMike;31126139]

Sunday June 23rd:
AC309 YUL - YVR @ 1830
AC33 YYZ - YVR @ 2015

I/QUOTE]

Both R6 for me and award space on AC309 only

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Old May 21, 19, 11:09 pm
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Originally Posted by CanadianMike View Post
Any kind folks willing to check some availability for me? AE has none listed but seems to (? randomly) open some up.
miniRTW so looking for award J space.

Sunday June 23rd:
AC309 YUL - YVR @ 1830
AC33 YYZ - YVR @ 2015

If anyone can also comment on if there's some known method to how AE releases space that would be appreciated.
I've been checking daily and there would be days with no direct J availability, then today I noticed a few flights open.
I'm still learning EF (brand new to it) and generally speaking I'm an idiot, so bear with me here...

I see no availability for AC309. There are available seats for AC301 and ACr1543

AC33 has 'X' (coach) available only.

Now comes the people telling me I'm doing it wrong!
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Old May 21, 19, 11:22 pm
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well i did see award space on 309 but i can't reproduce my results anymore
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Old May 22, 19, 8:18 am
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[QUOTE=s_yvr;31126212]
Originally Posted by CanadianMike View Post

Sunday June 23rd:
AC309 YUL - YVR @ 1830
AC33 YYZ - YVR @ 2015

I/QUOTE]

Both R6 for me and award space on AC309 only
As an EF rookie, care to elaborate what that means exactly?
6 J seats on each and AC309 will be released on AE at some point?
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Old May 22, 19, 9:20 am
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Originally Posted by CanadianMike View Post

As an EF rookie, care to elaborate what that means exactly?
6 J seats on each and AC309 will be released on AE at some point?
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From anecdotal evidence (because nobody here has actual proof, that I am aware of), R inventory is a relatively good indicator (but not necessarily exact) of I class availability (AP J rewards).
And this has nothing to do with EF per se... it's just that EF allows us to see these numbers, no different than the BCD Availability tool as per this thread's wiki.


Updated:
I just checked AC309 and AC33 for June 23 and at this juncture:

AC309 is R6
AC33 is R7
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