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Old Dec 7, 2015, 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by adam.smith
I'm not sure how that was unclear. There's likely very little return on dollars AC spends on FF benefits for infrequent flyers who happen to buy a high-margin fare.
Are you saying AC would see very little return if, for example, they allowed true J fares to have access to Concierge and to get the meal they want?
The people who have the means and need for real J fares are the most coveted passengers for any airline - doesn't matter if they fly weekly or every full moon.
Passengers forking over upwards of $1,000/hour are passengers you better keep happy, cause there aren't many of them out there.
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 10:19 am
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I'm writing something for a newspaper on a closely related subject right now, as it happens. Would anyone who regularly pays their own way on full-fare J be interested in talking briefly offline? PM me.
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by Absolute
This; otherwise someone could buy unlimited FP's and make SE100K on AQD without actually taking a single flight.

Wait... all that money for AC without needing to provide someone the benefits? Oops.
You already can make SE100K without taking a single flight. Some (or all? not sure) FP offer 10k status miles/month (I'm guessing that these status miles count as AC miles, meeting the AC metal threshold.) 120k per year = instant SE even if you never use the thing. Not sure WHY you'd do that, but it's certainly possible.
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 12:16 pm
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Originally Posted by CloudsBelow
Are you saying AC would see very little return if, for example, they allowed true J fares to have access to Concierge and to get the meal they want?
The people who have the means and need for real J fares are the most coveted passengers for any airline - doesn't matter if they fly weekly or every full moon.
Passengers forking over upwards of $1,000/hour are passengers you better keep happy, cause there aren't many of them out there.
If you're flying full J on a "short" route like YYZ-LHR "every full moon", you fly enough for SE.

You're describing a frequent flyer.
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Roadwork
I'm writing something for a newspaper on a closely related subject right now, as it happens. Would anyone who regularly pays their own way on full-fare J be interested in talking briefly offline? PM me.
A real airline allows premium cabin passengers to pre select their meals and even publish their menus on line.
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Allvest
A real airline allows premium cabin passengers to pre select their meals and even publish their menus on line.
Ok. Is this where I should post my pre-order menus from the "other" airlines, or should we start a new thread?
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by BrotherBranwell
AC's treatment of those buying (non-discounted) J fares is a joke. Not even first choice of meals, largely shunned by concierges, no way of even contacting concierges by phone, limited miles, limited AQS etc etc

While I recognise that we are in the minority on this Board I'd think AC would treat its highest RASK customers better - but no. I'm one that has spent way more than $20K with AC some years but don't even come close to SE.

And please don't say that full J customers don't need SE benefits - just having what is left of IKK would make a big difference.
Data derived from their own statistics would probably indicate that the full J flyer who is not a SE is probably a rarity in real terms.
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Allvest
A real airline allows premium cabin passengers to pre select their meals and even publish their menus on line.
Well I'll admit I haven't flown many airlines' premium cabins on international flights, but AC/UA/LH do not do that.

Although I suspect were getting quite a bit off topic
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 3:37 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
Ok. Is this where I should post my pre-order menus from the "other" airlines, or should we start a new thread?
I believe this is in the planning stages at AC and was test driven some time back in YUL.
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 5:11 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
Well I'll admit I haven't flown many airlines' premium cabins on international flights, but AC/UA/LH do not do that.

Although I suspect were getting quite a bit off topic
LH F shows their menu but doesn't allow a preordered meal. TG and SQ allow pre ordered meals as do a few other airlines.
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 7:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Allvest
LH F shows their menu but doesn't allow a preordered meal.
When did AC get F cabins? Also, it is my understanding LH is reducing a lot of F cabins.
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by chovaz
You already can make SE100K without taking a single flight. Some (or all? not sure) FP offer 10k status miles/month (I'm guessing that these status miles count as AC miles, meeting the AC metal threshold.) 120k per year = instant SE even if you never use the thing. Not sure WHY you'd do that, but it's certainly possible.
Yep, that's the unlimited FP I mentioned
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 9:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Allvest
LH F shows their menu but doesn't allow a preordered meal. TG and SQ allow pre ordered meals as do a few other airlines.

Originally Posted by Wpgjetse
When did AC get F cabins? Also, it is my understanding LH is reducing a lot of F cabins.
(bolding mine)

Are you confused or was that a typo?

1. Allvest wrote LH F.
2. It is irrelevant that LH or other carriers are reducing routes with F cabins. The topic of the posts above is pre-ordering meals
3. I recently pre-ordered (and received) meals on AA, BR and SQ
4. BA recently announced they are doing it

And so it goes.
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 9:38 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
(bolding mine)

Are you confused or was that a typo?

1. Allvest wrote LH F.
2. It is irrelevant that LH or other carriers are reducing routes with F cabins. The topic of the posts above is pre-ordering meals
3. I recently pre-ordered (and received) meals on AA, BR and SQ
4. BA recently announced they are doing it

And so it goes.
I think the point is that it's irrelevant what LH F does, because we're talking about AC J. If LH J did it, it would be a valid comparison.
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Old Dec 7, 2015, 9:43 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
I think the point is that it's irrelevant what LH F does, because we're talking about AC J. If LH J did it, it would be a valid comparison.

What LH F does may be irrelevant to some, but I was responding to this specific post and also asked a question, which was not answered.

Originally Posted by Wpgjetse
When did AC get F cabins? Also, it is my understanding LH is reducing a lot of F cabins.
Therefore, I chose to continue the sub-topic of pre-order meals that was mentioned by Allvest and Wpgjetse.

And the thread started to wanted a little earlier

Originally Posted by CloudsBelow
Are you saying AC would see very little return if, for example, they allowed true J fares to have access to Concierge and to get the meal they want?......
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