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Air Canada Altitude 2016 program for 2017 status

Old Nov 23, 15, 1:14 pm
  #31  
 
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I guess this means no more SE for EYW people, unless they also open up their wallets.

The good news is it's only CAD.

EDIT:

I guess it also means for me, if my spend is a little short, just do EYW.
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Old Nov 23, 15, 1:14 pm
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At least the changes are consistent with the tenor of previous Altitude enhancements. If you want SE, you'll pretty much have to fly paid J. For middling people like me (Y/PY flyer) the spend requirement is no biggie, and the elimination of the AC metal requirement actually gives me more flexibility in avoiding AC's slaveships when desired.
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Old Nov 23, 15, 1:15 pm
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WOW.. I am SO glad I left AC 2 years ago for UNITED... Not sure about the rest of you, but these changes really suck.. LIke ... AC?.

AIR CANADA - you are now DEAD TO ME.
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Old Nov 23, 15, 1:15 pm
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I wished they had published this sooner... already booked my Q1 travel with AC rather than CX :/
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Old Nov 23, 15, 1:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Plumber View Post
Wow....in addition to the Tango-Flex differential...

And you need $6000 for E50K but $20,000 for S100K


AQM or AQS AND AQD are required


Prestige 25K
25,000 25 $ 3,000

Elite 35K
35,000 35 $ 4,000

Elite 50K
50,000 50 $ 6,000

Elite 75K
75,000 75 $ 9,000

Elite 100K
100,000 95 $ 20,000
The AQD's seem fairly low. I spend over $12K per year and only manage P25K due to the COS bonus (which will now drop because of Rouge). If AC is saying that they'll give somebody E75K for 25% less spend (if the pax can find routings that will give them 75K miles or 75 segments in that $9K budget) it seems out of whack - why not just go to pure spend instead.
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Old Nov 23, 15, 1:17 pm
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Originally Posted by krayZpaving View Post
Bracketing in the description isn't particularly clear.
What they mean is (AQM or AQS) and (AQD). But if could be read as (AQM) or (AQS and AQD).

Overall, won't change anything for most business travellers I guess.
I read it initially as AQM or (AQS + AQD).

They need a better comms person.
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Old Nov 23, 15, 1:17 pm
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… just when I knew all the answers, they change all the questions … again!
As a AC member now based o/s, these changes really make it difficult to keep with AC, which has been possible this year with the 50% AC requirement, meaning maintaining 50K has been achievable, and the main perk for international travel. Now … not so sure ...
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Old Nov 23, 15, 1:17 pm
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Wow, that's worse than expected.

$20k minimum spend for SE status?!?

Guess that'll be my last year of SE status.
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Old Nov 23, 15, 1:18 pm
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No mention of any implications of residency?

For UA, the PQD requirement only applies for US residents.

For AC, under the old regime, the AC segment requirement was halved for non-Canadian residents.

Any idea whether accommodations will be made in this case? If not, it's definitely UA for me next year.
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Old Nov 23, 15, 1:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Sean Peever View Post
make? or choose to make?

I'll do it if they tell me what the 2017 program will be and I like it.

I will NOT do it as a blind gamble of what the 2017 program might be.
Irrelevant, I will have fun assuming that those that 'chose' not to make it were pushed out.

That alone is enough for me to embrace this change as I watch everyone that used to be SE 'decide to leave'. Even more so than the ones who will be E75K despite flying 100K.

I know, I am a bit of a feminine hygiene product used to clean the reproductive organ on a hot summer day, but with all the "lolz I'm so gud I'm SE" it will be nice to see who is really part of the big male reproductive organ club.
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Old Nov 23, 15, 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Jasper2009 View Post
Wow, that's worse than expected.

$20k minimum spend for SE status?!?

Guess that'll be my last year of SE status.
Yup, $20k is something

5 trips to SYD in Flex
Asia P fares, 7 trips

Domestic/Transborder good for segment guys could be OK, if you do 100 flights at $200 each.

I guess 2.5 trips to SYD in paid J will do it....

Again, would be nice to see what my AQD for 2015 is as a benchmark.
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Old Nov 23, 15, 1:20 pm
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At a glance, it would seem to make it harder to make up to 75K on Tango only segments.

The 100K numbers roughly align to just a little over Flex only. The thread from a few days ago where some people said "sometimes low J, sometimes Flex, sometimes Tango, I am 100K" will not be affected much.

Not sure if I would be able to muster up any outrage over this change.
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Old Nov 23, 15, 1:22 pm
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Hadn't noticed the huge AQD requirement jump from E75k to SE100k. That'll surely leave a few people lower down the tree.
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Old Nov 23, 15, 1:22 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow View Post
Also, if I buy a ticket from AC that flies YYZ-LHR-JNB, you only earn AQD on "half" of it.
LHR-JNB is available as an AC codeshare, so as long as you book it as such, should earn AQD, no?

My January YYZ-CDG-IST-JNB-IST-YYZ is outta luck except for YYZ-CDG and IST-YYZ, though.... while it's all on an 014 ticket, the TK flights aren't AC codeshares, I don't believe. Certainly weren't booked as such. That's somewhat disappointing.
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Old Nov 23, 15, 1:22 pm
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Originally Posted by PlainEnthusiast View Post
The AQD's seem fairly low. I spend over $12K per year and only manage P25K due to the COS bonus (which will now drop because of Rouge). If AC is saying that they'll give somebody E75K for 25% less spend (if the pax can find routings that will give them 75K miles or 75 segments in that $9K budget) it seems out of whack - why not just go to pure spend instead.
Because while two people can have the same $ spend, one can be wildly profitable, while the other barely breaks even.

I assume that with $12K per year you fly a lot of low Y fares? Or very short routes? There is probably no comparing between the margin of a Tango and that of a P fare.
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