When to use e upgrades?
 

Hi guys

Just qualified for 35k elite altitude status. I know by the end of this year I will hit super elite 100k status.

Just a question as to when the best time to use my e upgrades is? Does air canada ever upgrade elites for free?

From all you guys who are experienced with regards to how to get upgrades as elites without using e upgrades let me know. Do you try to book full flights? Type of ticket?

Thanks in advance.

I use them when I want to sit in J without paying for it.

That's better than my way; so far I have been wholly unsuccessful in redeeming them for extra lives in Contra.

OP, welcome to FT. Now, to try and answer your questions:

- the best time to use e-Ups is whatever time works for you, as long as you remember that allll the other frequent flyers have them too, including a whole bunch of 50K, 75K and 100K. So, you might pick a flight that feels like a good fit, but then not get to use them because the last two open seats in J were given to higher-status fliers who wanted to use THEIR e-Ups on that flight.

- They expire February 29, which also means that in January-February, there are lots of 100Ks trying to burn through their leftover credits before they vanish.

- Until you hit 100K, using e-Ups for flights outside North America comes with a pretty steep fee, hilariously named an "Add-On". So, personally, I would say the best value for e-Ups for lower-status fliers is on the domestic long-haul routes like YVR-YYZ, when you can get them.

- Try to think ahead; for example, it would really suck to upgrade a YWG-YVR return trip on an E90, for 16 credits, and then realize you're 1 credit short to upgrade that YVR-YUL leg on a 333.

- As for "free" upgrades, if you're comparing Air Canada to Delta, United or American, the answer is "virtually never". Air Canada says they're trying to be like Cathay, in that they only upgrade people for free if the lesser cabins are oversold. That said, it happens occasionally and sometimes without rhyme or reason.

I'm not going to attempt to explain the priority for upgrades, there are several great threads on this board explaining it far better than I ever could.

Some people like Canadiancow and Mrs. YVRGary have great luck with their e-Ups, others refer to it as "Aerolotto" since your odds of success are not always high.

Your mileage may vary, as they say.

Good luck!

Are people really having trouble this year?

I'm seeing a lot more empty seats, staff in J, etc.

I'm hearing the term "aerolotto" less around here than I did six months ago.

...maybe "de-cheapenhancing" the J cabin has solved the problem.

I got free upgraded at the gate without me asking or e upgrade, very suprised and enjoy them very much!
March 2015 NRT - YVR from Y to PE
Aug 2015 CDG - YUL from Y to J

OP, if you want to sit in J, use your eUps. As yvrgary said, you need to be strategic about it, but the only way to have a high degree of confidence you'll sit in J is to pay for it or use the eUps. Op-ups (what you refer to as "free" upgrades) happen occasionally, but very rarely, and can't be counted on.

Ease of usage also depends on where you are located, out of YEG not bad other than a couple of heavy use windows during week when government/consultants/YYZ based sales types are coming in or going out. That and overseas drilling crews ( a lot based out of here ) all are SE100K so they get 1st crack, but mainly on YEG-YVR leg on the SYD

Fortunately I am traveling opposite direction most of time as well. I don't think I have not been able to upgrade a flight I wanted in over a year now. But my business flying is split 50/50 long haul domestic or short haul with Dash/Q400 with no J . Personal is mostly long haul in paid discount Z/P fare.

Thanks all.

For anyone that is super elite 100k what are the chances you get upgraded for free without using any e credits? Any secrets you have when booking? Do you try to book full flights?

Once you learn the secret handshake, there are plenty of secrets ;)

See my earlier post. Even as SE, there's no reliable way to get upgraded without using eUps or paying for it. You can book a flight that looks full, but (a) the flight may not be full, (b) even if it's full, there may be misconnects or people who change plans, (c) other people may use their eUps, (d) other SEs may get op-uped before you, (e) if no status pax have requested an upgrade, they may put AC staff or random people up front. All of which would leave you in the back. And there's probably a few more I haven't thought of.

Bottom line, use eUps, or pay for it, if you want to sit in J, and look at any op-ups you do get as a bonus, but there's no way to guarantee them.

Low. Not zero, but low, and definitely not anything you should be counting on.

Plus, anyone who's got secrets like this probably won't be giving them away on the Internet! :)

use them while you can as they have a shelf life and as the 'year end' for the 2015 eups approaches, you may not find flights you can upgrade in advance. Unless upgrading at the gate-lotto appeals to you.

If you want to sit up front without using the eups, pay for J or buy a NA Lat Flight Pass where there are comp upgrades at 48 hrs.

On this topic...

I asked in another thread, but never got a great reply.

Flying LHR > YVR in a couple weeks.

How do I check the flight fare class status to see my likelihood of Eup-ing to Premium Economy?

ExpertFlyer or something like it; I believe only a paid account can do this, but I'm sure someone with a membership would be kind enough to check if you can post flight details.

Yeah I checked out ExpertFlyer but didn't realize you needed an account.

AC855 on September 16th if anyone is bored / kind and willing.

Which for me is always haha.

I'm also impressed the OP has recently gotten to 35k but will still hit 100k by year's end, there's only 4 months left to get 65,000 more AQM, 16,250 a month. That's a bit of a daunting task.

AC 855 0 LHR
09/16/15 10:05 AM YVR
09/16/15 11:35 AM 77W
Daily
71% / 33m J9 C9 D9 Z9 P6 R6 O2 E0 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9

Looks wide open to me (at least at the moment), but don't you have to be E50K or higher to upgrade a TATL, unless in Y/B--in which case there is no copay?

Totally depends on your travel patterns, I'll get 11,200 AQM this long weekend just in Canada.

Flying the same way there and back, are we?

lol yup :P

I Will hit 100k status as I will get to 95 segments. :)

Yeah I'm E50K.

Am I correct in saying that E / N are showing no availability for Premium Economy?

The fact that I got your reference means I am an old bumfart. An old UUDDLRLRBAStart bumfart, that is.

O is PE (highest), if I'm not mistaken. Nothing in E or N.

Here's the latest on your flight

AC 855 0 LHR
09/16/15 10:05 AM YVR
09/16/15 11:35 AM 77W
Daily
71% / 33m J9 C9 D9 Z9 P5 R6 O2 E0 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9

Odd that R > P.

Appreciate that. Guess I'll just try my luck when the E-up window opens.

Does a free Expert Flyer account give you access to find out that information?

No, but it's only $4.99 US per month for the basic version. I consider it money well spent. Good luck with the upgrade!

I figure this is the most relevant thread - what do you guys think are the odds of en eUP clearing YUL-YVR right before new year's? Somewhere between 0 and 0.1%?

I think it's quite high. Like what date? December 25th to Jan 1st has been light for the last few years (WRT load)

30th, I'm surprised to hear though - I'd imagine it'd have a lot of people returning from visiting family from Christmas (like me, lol)

Uhhh exactly?

No one flying for work paying for business class.

No one flying for work on high fares using eUpgrades.

No one flying for work on low fares using eUpgrades.