[IN FLIGHT] Shaves on a Plane; the Hall of Shame for passengers behaving badly on AC
May 11, 2019, 3:55 pm
#1081
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These headphones were not enough to drown out the loud squeals from a child sitting away from her parents in business class. I think they were fairly last minute upgrades because the 2 parents and 2 kids were all separated. SD did her best to ask people to trade seats and put them closer together. But the youngest child (about age 7) was seated in a malfunctioned seat (with sticker over seat control panel) so that didn’t help. SD asked the child if she felt ok to sit alone and she said yes.
Anyway, said child didn’t know how to buckle the seatbelt and yelled for her mom. This was one of two times I saw the mom attend to the child (flight was 6.5 hours). Otherwise the kindly SD and FAs attended to her multiple needs.
In one circumstance she dropped and broke her glass of juice, and the blanket was soaked. An FA cleaned up the aisle of the glass - the parents were none the wiser.
Throughout the flight, she would try to speak to her brother and mom by kneeling on her seat to face them, until SD told her she shouldn’t be so loud (in a very kind way). She then proceeded to whisper loudly. She kept pressing the flight attendant call button, until one FA explained what that button was for. She kept turning the seat lights on and off (this was late evening flight). She was obviously bored and was left on her own to keep entertained. She did try to watch a move and play games on the IFE but these were not enough. She finally fell asleep as we got close to our destination - hooray!
i don’t fault a child, of course. But I do feel that her parents should check on her more often if they are unable to sit near by. And they can give her some stuff to do on the flight to keep her occupied.
To top it off, this flight had other children in business class as well - a young toddler (appropriately seated on her own with parents behind and across) and a baby who cried loudly but at least the (same) parents were trying to soothe and placate to minimize noise by their children.
I told the SD she had her patience of a saint to deal with the child whose parents did not attend to their own child.
Anyway, said child didn’t know how to buckle the seatbelt and yelled for her mom. This was one of two times I saw the mom attend to the child (flight was 6.5 hours). Otherwise the kindly SD and FAs attended to her multiple needs.
In one circumstance she dropped and broke her glass of juice, and the blanket was soaked. An FA cleaned up the aisle of the glass - the parents were none the wiser.
Throughout the flight, she would try to speak to her brother and mom by kneeling on her seat to face them, until SD told her she shouldn’t be so loud (in a very kind way). She then proceeded to whisper loudly. She kept pressing the flight attendant call button, until one FA explained what that button was for. She kept turning the seat lights on and off (this was late evening flight). She was obviously bored and was left on her own to keep entertained. She did try to watch a move and play games on the IFE but these were not enough. She finally fell asleep as we got close to our destination - hooray!
i don’t fault a child, of course. But I do feel that her parents should check on her more often if they are unable to sit near by. And they can give her some stuff to do on the flight to keep her occupied.
To top it off, this flight had other children in business class as well - a young toddler (appropriately seated on her own with parents behind and across) and a baby who cried loudly but at least the (same) parents were trying to soothe and placate to minimize noise by their children.
I told the SD she had her patience of a saint to deal with the child whose parents did not attend to their own child.
May 12, 2019, 6:28 pm
#1082
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 282
What do y'all think about this one: people who grab the back of your seat every time they sit down and get up? Personally, I hate it, especially if I'm trying to sleep. The whole seat back moves violently back and forth, up and down. Of course, this is mainly a Y issue.
May 12, 2019, 6:49 pm
#1083
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What do y'all think about this one: people who grab the back of your seat every time they sit down and get up? Personally, I hate it, especially if I'm trying to sleep. The whole seat back moves violently back and forth, up and down. Of course, this is mainly a Y issue.
I understand that some folks have no choice because of physical problems but they should at least be considerate at advise the pax in the seat being yanked. The seat yanker should at least apologised for doing that.
May 12, 2019, 8:53 pm
#1085
Join Date: Nov 2016
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You’re right. It wouldn’t take a lot of effort to be polite or considerate. Not just on planes, of course, but it’s amazing how little some people think about other people that may be around them.
May 13, 2019, 3:19 pm
#1086
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What do y'all think about this one: people who grab the back of your seat every time they sit down and get up? Personally, I hate it, especially if I'm trying to sleep. The whole seat back moves violently back and forth, up and down. Of course, this is mainly a Y issue.
May 13, 2019, 3:34 pm
#1087
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I've had people grab my head rest as they get up / down. I suspect it is when their seat back is not vertical and they can't figure out how to get out.
May 13, 2019, 3:35 pm
#1088
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Yeah, it sucks. And deserves a pointed comment the second time it happens.
May 13, 2019, 9:10 pm
#1090
Join Date: Feb 2010
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And this shaving continued and no pax or cabin crew said anything?
Perfect candidate for "Passenger Shaming bingo"
https://www.facebook.com/PassengerSh...type=1&theater
Perfect candidate for "Passenger Shaming bingo"
https://www.facebook.com/PassengerSh...type=1&theater
Also maybe he did not want to go to the lav as it may involve stepping over other pax ?
May 14, 2019, 3:13 pm
#1091
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Not sure why you're picking on @24left in that s/he is responding to the OP with some fun tongue-in-cheek.
In fact, your post would apply to this entire thread. Everyone has their gripes, and some will/may agree/disagree with them, especially the "severity" and "nature" of said "behavio(u)r". That's what this thread is for.
But if you do have an issue, you can always use the Report a Bad Post (RBP) button and alert the mods.
Heck, you can even report a bad thread. 
Paging @Premiere Elite - YEG!
May 14, 2019, 5:28 pm
#1092
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@HMPS
Not sure why you're picking on @24left in that s/he is responding to the OP with some fun tongue-in-cheek.
In fact, your post would apply to this entire thread. Everyone has their gripes, and some will/may agree/disagree with them, especially the "severity" and "nature" of said "behavio(u)r". That's what this thread is for.
But if you do have an issue, you can always use the Report a Bad Post (RBP) button and alert the mods. Heck, you can even report a bad thread.
Paging @Premiere Elite - YEG!
Not sure why you're picking on @24left in that s/he is responding to the OP with some fun tongue-in-cheek.
In fact, your post would apply to this entire thread. Everyone has their gripes, and some will/may agree/disagree with them, especially the "severity" and "nature" of said "behavio(u)r". That's what this thread is for.
But if you do have an issue, you can always use the Report a Bad Post (RBP) button and alert the mods.
Heck, you can even report a bad thread. Paging @Premiere Elite - YEG!
Understand "severity" & "nature" are relative. Impacts depend on the personality of the reader /viewer, threshold of limits.
Bottom line: Life is too short to worry about minute details or assumed slights.
Good reading & posting.
May 14, 2019, 5:39 pm
#1093
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NOT picking on a person ! The whole culture / society is FORCING OTHERS into what some / few think is not Politically Correct, wanting to change narratives. So pls relax, as you said you think it was a bad post, more power to you, report or ignore.
Understand "severity" & "nature" are relative. Impacts depend on the personality of the reader /viewer, threshold of limits.
Bottom line: Life is too short to worry about minute details or assumed slights.
Good reading & posting.
Understand "severity" & "nature" are relative. Impacts depend on the personality of the reader /viewer, threshold of limits.
Bottom line: Life is too short to worry about minute details or assumed slights.
Good reading & posting.
Yes, we agree!
Yes, life is too short to chastise/admonish others who post about the "insignificant" things!
May 14, 2019, 11:26 pm
#1094
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It is entirely possible that my conduct has offended someone at some point. I am disinclined to modify my behavior to accommodate every single on-line prissy-pants. I intend to abide by the standard of conduct that is acceptable to me. If someone doesn't like it they can complain to the closest available authority or if feeling sufficiently self-confident can raise it with me directly.
May 14, 2019, 11:50 pm
#1095
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At times it does seem that way but my perspective is that sites like this give the passive aggressive a platform to anonymously complain about conduct or situations when they lack the personal self-assurance to do something in the moment. They've always been in a state of agitation about the conduct of others but before the Internet we didn't know they existed.
It is entirely possible that my conduct has offended someone at some point. I am disinclined to modify my behavior to accommodate every single on-line prissy-pants. I intend to abide by the standard of conduct that is acceptable to me. If someone doesn't like it they can complain to the closest available authority or if feeling sufficiently self-confident can raise it with me directly.
It is entirely possible that my conduct has offended someone at some point. I am disinclined to modify my behavior to accommodate every single on-line prissy-pants. I intend to abide by the standard of conduct that is acceptable to me. If someone doesn't like it they can complain to the closest available authority or if feeling sufficiently self-confident can raise it with me directly.
Window shade etiquette is an example of a contentious issue that you're never going to get mass agreement on. But never reusing a plate in a "buffet" (i.e. MLL) is something I had simply never considered as a problem until reading about it on FT. And now I don't do it. All because of "anonymous" complaints here.
So I disagree with you. Just because someone doesn't have the confidence to approach me directly, or talk to an employee about me, doesn't mean they shouldn't voice their opinions here. If the opinion is reasonable, and others agree, and I agree, you'll likely see a change in my behavior.