New Airline to launch Transcon routes out of YHM by end of Summer, how will AC react?
Jan 8, 2016, 7:41 am
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Good for New leaf, last week both WS & AC were not able to have lower fares, these guys come along and now WS has lower fares and as already commented AC probably will also, funny how that happens. Lets hope these guys stay around as they will help make it possible for Canadian families to travel, perhaps keep some of the folks in BC & Ontario from crossing the border and fly through the US.
Lets bet that these guys survive and make flight travel in Canada more affordable for all than hoping they fail so the traveling Canadian public losses. ^
Lets bet that these guys survive and make flight travel in Canada more affordable for all than hoping they fail so the traveling Canadian public losses. ^
Jan 8, 2016, 9:09 am
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Jan 8, 2016, 9:16 am
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Jan 8, 2016, 9:55 am
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2- will AC/ws want to lose money over short/medium if end of day this company is capturing a new type of customer instead of stealing them. I think they may be looked at like how wind mobile is by Rogers and bell, an annoyance but sit at a different place in the market.
3- I won't be flying them I don't think, but want them to succeed. I did my masters in the U.S., having spirit was great when I was a poor student. 60-80 bucks RT DC To Florida - good times.
Jan 8, 2016, 10:00 am
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I doubt fares are typically $250 lower per person for the average family who is fine with Tango fares.
Jan 8, 2016, 10:05 am
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Jan 8, 2016, 10:10 am
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AC fares themselves are usually quite similar to the US carriers. The key difference is YYZ charges $40-$50/passenger to use their facilities (AIF + rents + ridiculous US Customs charges), while the US airports charge far less and avoid the Customs fee on account of land crossings "magically" being 'free'.
Jan 8, 2016, 10:19 am
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For the inaugural date, one way YYZ/YHM-YHZ: PD Firm $196, AC Tango $221, NewLeaf $99. YYZ/YHM-YXE is $273 on AC, $119 on NewLeaf.
I don't earn much as a student, and I often take more painful routes (7 hour connections, never nonstop, etc) to save less than $50. If an ULCC saves me 25-50%, it's a no-brainer,.especially since I typically only carry a personal item. If they bring legacy carriers' prices down too, even better.
Jan 8, 2016, 11:54 am
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Jan 8, 2016, 1:24 pm
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Jan 8, 2016, 1:32 pm
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It actually happened on easyJet. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-...-west-33492512
Jan 8, 2016, 2:45 pm
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On a random Feb weekday (the 18th, busy over reading week), AC operates 2694 seats YYZ-YVR. WS operates 990. All US carriers combined BUF-BLI/SEA operate 0.
The savings may be worth it if the family ends up in a convenient airport at least on one end (FLL), but that wasn't the question. I was responding to someone suggesting there is demand for BUF-SEA/BLI because we are being so badly hosed on YYZ-YVR. When evidently there isn't.
EDIT: Daily seats in July
WS YYZYVR: 1473
AC YYZYVR: 3671
All BUF-SEA/BLI: 0
Last edited by winnipegrev; Jan 8, 2016 at 2:59 pm
Jan 8, 2016, 3:01 pm
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