FAQ: How to Save Money/YQ on Aeroplan Europe redemptions
Jun 29, 2015, 2:34 pm
#106
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by steveche View Post
Appreciate if you expert guys could give me some thoughts on my 2016 trip as well... too bad dates are pretty much dead on due joining coach tours to east Europe. Less on YQ and no Lufthansa (due March is their 'strike season', and been screwed up 2 years in a row !!) thanks again
YYZ-FRA Mar.12
FRA-HKG Mar,17
HKG-YYZ Apr16 or 17
Preferably with CA, SQ, LX, TK.... THANKS GUYS
Originally Posted by steveche View Post
Appreciate if you expert guys could give me some thoughts on my 2016 trip as well... too bad dates are pretty much dead on due joining coach tours to east Europe. Less on YQ and no Lufthansa (due March is their 'strike season', and been screwed up 2 years in a row !!) thanks again
YYZ-FRA Mar.12
FRA-HKG Mar,17
HKG-YYZ Apr16 or 17
Preferably with CA, SQ, LX, TK.... THANKS GUYS
Jun 29, 2015, 2:51 pm
#107
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: YYZ
Posts: 182
How many people? Y or J? I assume you aren't SE so AC is a no go too...
Also, are those dates the departure dates or your required arrival dates ? For example YYZ-FRA departing on March 12 would arrive March 13 at FRA which wouldn't work if your tour starts on the 12th.
Also, are those dates the departure dates or your required arrival dates ? For example YYZ-FRA departing on March 12 would arrive March 13 at FRA which wouldn't work if your tour starts on the 12th.
Jun 29, 2015, 7:26 pm
#108
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 144
I've got 350,000 points but prefer to fly in Y to save for next year. Myself and my wife need to take off on Mar.12 arriving Mar.13 to join the coach on Mar.14. I don't mind to pay YQ but just wanted to minimize it. Absolutely no LH since 2 years in a row (this year and last year) screwed up by their strike in March. Fine with connecting flights and layovers preferably less than 3 hours......thanks so much
Jun 29, 2015, 10:11 pm
#109
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
Thanks jcoop,
I've got 350,000 points but prefer to fly in Y to save for next year. Myself and my wife need to take off on Mar.12 arriving Mar.13 to join the coach on Mar.14. I don't mind to pay YQ but just wanted to minimize it. Absolutely no LH since 2 years in a row (this year and last year) screwed up by their strike in March. Fine with connecting flights and layovers preferably less than 3 hours......thanks so much
I've got 350,000 points but prefer to fly in Y to save for next year. Myself and my wife need to take off on Mar.12 arriving Mar.13 to join the coach on Mar.14. I don't mind to pay YQ but just wanted to minimize it. Absolutely no LH since 2 years in a row (this year and last year) screwed up by their strike in March. Fine with connecting flights and layovers preferably less than 3 hours......thanks so much
YYZ-FRA Mar.12
FRA-HKG Mar,17
HKG-YYZ Apr16 or 17
And, above is really more of Mini-RTW instead of Europe reward and hence more appropriate in
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...questions.html
Jun 30, 2015, 8:24 am
#110
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Canada
Programs: Marriott LT Gold, IHG Club, Hertz Gold, Aeroplan, Avios, SkyMiles, Thrifty, AMEX
Posts: 985
Quote:
Originally Posted by steveche View Post
Appreciate if you expert guys could give me some thoughts on my 2016 trip as well... too bad dates are pretty much dead on due joining coach tours to east Europe. Less on YQ and no Lufthansa (due March is their 'strike season', and been screwed up 2 years in a row !!) thanks again
YYZ-FRA Mar.12
FRA-HKG Mar,17
HKG-YYZ Apr16 or 17
Preferably with CA, SQ, LX, TK.... THANKS GUYS
Originally Posted by steveche View Post
Appreciate if you expert guys could give me some thoughts on my 2016 trip as well... too bad dates are pretty much dead on due joining coach tours to east Europe. Less on YQ and no Lufthansa (due March is their 'strike season', and been screwed up 2 years in a row !!) thanks again
YYZ-FRA Mar.12
FRA-HKG Mar,17
HKG-YYZ Apr16 or 17
Preferably with CA, SQ, LX, TK.... THANKS GUYS
FRA-HKG Mar,17 - LX via ZRH - the connection offered is tight (50 min.), but should be doable
HKG-YYZ Apr 17 - HKG-PEK on CA, then PEK-IAD-YYZ on UA
All bookable now on the website, for 2. Taxes total $381.96/person.
Jun 30, 2015, 8:43 am
#111
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
YYZ-FRA Mar.12 - LO via WAW - some YQ, but lower than AC
FRA-HKG Mar,17 - LX via ZRH - the connection offered is tight (50 min.), but should be doable
HKG-YYZ Apr 17 - HKG-PEK on CA, then PEK-IAD-YYZ on UA
All bookable now on the website, for 2. Taxes total $381.96/person.
FRA-HKG Mar,17 - LX via ZRH - the connection offered is tight (50 min.), but should be doable
HKG-YYZ Apr 17 - HKG-PEK on CA, then PEK-IAD-YYZ on UA
All bookable now on the website, for 2. Taxes total $381.96/person.
but yeah, looks like good routing/flights already.
Jun 30, 2015, 9:03 am
#112
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Canada
Programs: Marriott LT Gold, IHG Club, Hertz Gold, Aeroplan, Avios, SkyMiles, Thrifty, AMEX
Posts: 985
What can I say - I was bored...
Shame about the new MPM rules - I'm getting TK options for the first 2 flights, but picking it on the first blacks out all the flight 2 options, and the only way to pick TK for flight 2 is to go LH on the TA portion.
ETA: Actually, you can go TK on flight 2 if you pick OS on the first flight - taxes go up to $467.06.
Shame about the new MPM rules - I'm getting TK options for the first 2 flights, but picking it on the first blacks out all the flight 2 options, and the only way to pick TK for flight 2 is to go LH on the TA portion.
ETA: Actually, you can go TK on flight 2 if you pick OS on the first flight - taxes go up to $467.06.
Last edited by Twickenham; Jun 30, 2015 at 9:13 am
Jul 6, 2015, 9:24 am
#114
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: YYZ
Posts: 182
I'm looking at the following itinerary: MXP-IST-YYZ. There are multiple daily flights for MXP-IST but only one for IST-YYZ. The first MXP-IST flight will allow for me to connect in the same day, but it departs early (6:45AM) so I'd prefer to take a later flight on the previous day and spend the night in IST. TK offers a free hotel night in IST for overnight layovers but I'm not sure if it would apply in this case given that I could do it all in one day if I delayed the first leg. Anyone know the rules around this?
8/22: TK1896 MXP-IST 3:00PM-6:50PM
8/23: TK17 IST-YYZ 1:45PM-5:50PM
vs
8/23: TK1878 MXP-IST 6:45AM-10:35AM
8/23: TK17 IST-YYZ 1:45PM-5:50PM
8/22: TK1896 MXP-IST 3:00PM-6:50PM
8/23: TK17 IST-YYZ 1:45PM-5:50PM
vs
8/23: TK1878 MXP-IST 6:45AM-10:35AM
8/23: TK17 IST-YYZ 1:45PM-5:50PM
Jul 6, 2015, 9:29 am
#115
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
I'm looking at the following itinerary: MXP-IST-YYZ. There are multiple daily flights for MXP-IST but only one for IST-YYZ. The first MXP-IST flight will allow for me to connect in the same day, but it departs early (6:45AM) so I'd prefer to take a later flight on the previous day and spend the night in IST. TK offers a free hotel night in IST for overnight layovers but I'm not sure if it would apply in this case given that I could do it all in one day if I delayed the first leg. Anyone know the rules around this?
8/22: TK1896 MXP-IST 3:00PM-6:50PM
8/23: TK17 IST-YYZ 1:45PM-5:50PM
vs
8/23: TK1878 MXP-IST 6:45AM-10:35AM
8/23: TK17 IST-YYZ 1:45PM-5:50PM
8/22: TK1896 MXP-IST 3:00PM-6:50PM
8/23: TK17 IST-YYZ 1:45PM-5:50PM
vs
8/23: TK1878 MXP-IST 6:45AM-10:35AM
8/23: TK17 IST-YYZ 1:45PM-5:50PM
but since there's only one IST-YYZ, you look clear
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/turki...cting-ist.html
Rules:
- There is more than 10 hours (7 or more hours for business class passengers) between two international connecting flights due to Turkish Airlines’ schedule for a maximum 2 nights. Comfort Class is considered economy in this context.
- The layover time is calculated on the schedule not your booking. Let me explain: If the schedule shows an outgoing flight within the 10/7 hours window, even if you are not booked on the earlier flight (or couldn't book because it was full), you won't be able to take advantage of the free hotel/tour offer.
- You must be on an incoming TK and outgoing TK flight (other Star Alliance flights are not applicable for this offer).
- There is more than 10 hours (7 or more hours for business class passengers) between two international connecting flights due to Turkish Airlines’ schedule for a maximum 2 nights. Comfort Class is considered economy in this context.
- The layover time is calculated on the schedule not your booking. Let me explain: If the schedule shows an outgoing flight within the 10/7 hours window, even if you are not booked on the earlier flight (or couldn't book because it was full), you won't be able to take advantage of the free hotel/tour offer.
- You must be on an incoming TK and outgoing TK flight (other Star Alliance flights are not applicable for this offer).
Jul 6, 2015, 9:49 am
#116
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I'm looking at the following itinerary: MXP-IST-YYZ. There are multiple daily flights for MXP-IST but only one for IST-YYZ. The first MXP-IST flight will allow for me to connect in the same day, but it departs early (6:45AM) so I'd prefer to take a later flight on the previous day and spend the night in IST. TK offers a free hotel night in IST for overnight layovers but I'm not sure if it would apply in this case given that I could do it all in one day if I delayed the first leg. Anyone know the rules around this?
8/22: TK1896 MXP-IST 3:00PM-6:50PM
8/23: TK17 IST-YYZ 1:45PM-5:50PM
vs
8/23: TK1878 MXP-IST 6:45AM-10:35AM
8/23: TK17 IST-YYZ 1:45PM-5:50PM
8/22: TK1896 MXP-IST 3:00PM-6:50PM
8/23: TK17 IST-YYZ 1:45PM-5:50PM
vs
8/23: TK1878 MXP-IST 6:45AM-10:35AM
8/23: TK17 IST-YYZ 1:45PM-5:50PM
It only applies to where there are no options in the schedule.
Jul 6, 2015, 11:11 am
#117
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: YYZ
Posts: 182
Thanks, I realized the error of my ways thanks to that thread. I'm also balking at the cost of getting a Turkish visa (x3 = $180) so it looks like that option is off the table.
That 6:45AM flight is quite a pain the butt, particularly since we should be sleeping in to get back on Eastern Daylight Time...
If only I were SE - the AC nonstop MXP-YYZ has 3 open J reward seats taunting me.
That 6:45AM flight is quite a pain the butt, particularly since we should be sleeping in to get back on Eastern Daylight Time...
If only I were SE - the AC nonstop MXP-YYZ has 3 open J reward seats taunting me.
Jul 6, 2015, 12:25 pm
#118
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: YYZ
Posts: 182
6:45AM is just too early, we can't do it. Given that we will have a 2 year old in tow, what do you think is the best option?
Current - AC nonstop in Y, $570 taxes and fees + $270 for preferred seats
Option 1 - AC nonstop in J, $1024 in taxes and fees + extra hotel night in MXP
Option 2 - TK MXP-IST J on day 1 @3PM, overnight in IST, IST-YYZ J @ 1:45PM on day 2, $160 in taxes and fees + $180 for Turkish visas + hotel in IST.
Option 3 - wait and see if something better comes up in the next month, but it seems unlikely
If we switch from the current we have to pay $270 in change fees.
Sadly with option 2 we won't even get to see much of Istanbul (at all) and our checked luggage will stay checked (right?).
The idea of sitting in Y is not appealing but it's certainly the simplest option.
Current - AC nonstop in Y, $570 taxes and fees + $270 for preferred seats
Option 1 - AC nonstop in J, $1024 in taxes and fees + extra hotel night in MXP
Option 2 - TK MXP-IST J on day 1 @3PM, overnight in IST, IST-YYZ J @ 1:45PM on day 2, $160 in taxes and fees + $180 for Turkish visas + hotel in IST.
Option 3 - wait and see if something better comes up in the next month, but it seems unlikely
If we switch from the current we have to pay $270 in change fees.
Sadly with option 2 we won't even get to see much of Istanbul (at all) and our checked luggage will stay checked (right?).
The idea of sitting in Y is not appealing but it's certainly the simplest option.
Last edited by jcoop; Jul 6, 2015 at 12:34 pm
Jul 6, 2015, 12:51 pm
#119
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
6:45AM is just too early, we can't do it. Given that we will have a 2 year old in tow, what do you think is the best option?
Current - AC nonstop in Y, $570 taxes and fees + $270 for preferred seats
Option 1 - AC nonstop in J, $1024 in taxes and fees + extra hotel night in MXP
Option 2 - TK MXP-IST J on day 1 @3PM, overnight in IST, IST-YYZ J @ 1:45PM on day 2, $160 in taxes and fees + $180 for Turkish visas + hotel in IST.
Option 3 - wait and see if something better comes up in the next month, but it seems unlikely
If we switch from the current we have to pay $270 in change fees.
Sadly with option 2 we won't even get to see much of Istanbul (at all) and our checked luggage will stay checked (right?).
The idea of sitting in Y is not appealing but it's certainly the simplest option.
Current - AC nonstop in Y, $570 taxes and fees + $270 for preferred seats
Option 1 - AC nonstop in J, $1024 in taxes and fees + extra hotel night in MXP
Option 2 - TK MXP-IST J on day 1 @3PM, overnight in IST, IST-YYZ J @ 1:45PM on day 2, $160 in taxes and fees + $180 for Turkish visas + hotel in IST.
Option 3 - wait and see if something better comes up in the next month, but it seems unlikely
If we switch from the current we have to pay $270 in change fees.
Sadly with option 2 we won't even get to see much of Istanbul (at all) and our checked luggage will stay checked (right?).
The idea of sitting in Y is not appealing but it's certainly the simplest option.
8/23: TK1878 MXP-IST 6:45AM-10:35AM
8/23: TK17 IST-YYZ 1:45PM-5:50PM
Are there no other options? IST-YUL-YYZ or IST-ORD/BOS-YYZ? although they leave around the same time as IST-YYZ
Maybe get to MXP the night before? that's what I did (redeemed SPG points for on-site Sheraton hotel) for my MXP-FRA-YYZ last year
Just took a night bus (or train) from Milano Centrale to MXP
Jul 6, 2015, 3:13 pm
#120
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: YYZ
Posts: 182
Our current booking is on 8/22: AC895 MXP-YYZ departing 12:55PM in Y. Sadly that flight on that day does not have any J availability even if we wanted it.
We're staying 90 minutes away from MXP so we don't need an airport hotel unless it's an early morning flight. Everything is set up now so we can wake up at a reasonable hour, drive to MXP, drop off the rental car and get on the nonstop flight home. It does seem like the timing is such that any connecting flight means an early morning departure so that you make the connection to the TATL leg.
Basically I'm wondering if it's worth the hassle to fly TK or the extra YQ and extra hotel night to fly in an AC pod instead of a preferred Y seat. For me priority #1 is usually a nonstop flight, and I can buy myself something nice for that extra $400 in YQ in exchange for 8 hours in a Y seat. I also have to go to work on the 24th and I'm not sure whether I want an extra vacation day or time to recuperate after nearly three weeks away. I'm leaning towards not changing from the nonstop Y seat but it seems like cop out.
We're staying 90 minutes away from MXP so we don't need an airport hotel unless it's an early morning flight. Everything is set up now so we can wake up at a reasonable hour, drive to MXP, drop off the rental car and get on the nonstop flight home. It does seem like the timing is such that any connecting flight means an early morning departure so that you make the connection to the TATL leg.
Basically I'm wondering if it's worth the hassle to fly TK or the extra YQ and extra hotel night to fly in an AC pod instead of a preferred Y seat. For me priority #1 is usually a nonstop flight, and I can buy myself something nice for that extra $400 in YQ in exchange for 8 hours in a Y seat. I also have to go to work on the 24th and I'm not sure whether I want an extra vacation day or time to recuperate after nearly three weeks away. I'm leaning towards not changing from the nonstop Y seat but it seems like cop out.