Pet Peeves or annoying passengers in the MLL
Jun 14, 23, 2:30 pm
#1501
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Because parents seem unwilling or unable to discipline and control them? Certainly no one under 14 should be allowed near the food and beverage service area unless supervised by an adult, and if younger children are making noise and misbehaving, the family should be given one warning, then ejected.
Frankly, the one warning and ejection should apply to anyone including adults who are unnecessarily loud or disturbing other patrons.
Frankly, the one warning and ejection should apply to anyone including adults who are unnecessarily loud or disturbing other patrons.
Jun 14, 23, 2:33 pm
#1502
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Not sure how you were raised, but I was a polite and mannered child long before 10, and my kids are as well. The idea that even a 13 year shouldn't be allowed near food and beverage (not to mention "certainly" shouldn't be) seems very off to me. More importantly though, why not just police the behaviour rather than the age? Would you really object to an 8 year old getting herself a bottle of water from a fridge if she does so without being annoying/causing a ruckus?
Jun 14, 23, 2:41 pm
#1503
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I would prefer to police behavior in general, but honestly I've never see that happen in a MLL - whether it's marauding through the lounge screaming into a zoom meeting, or grabbing food with bare hands, or even licking serving utensils, I have yet to see anyone asked to either stop doing something, or told to leave the lounge. Unless the staff are going to start intervening with behavior problems regardless of age, then we need some basic guardrails in the meantime.
I can't really comment on what you have or haven't seen ... but I can assure you that I have seen numerous well behaved children in MLLs.
Jun 14, 23, 2:50 pm
#1504
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I would prefer to police behavior in general, but honestly I've never see that happen in a MLL - whether it's marauding through the lounge screaming into a zoom meeting, or grabbing food with bare hands, or even licking serving utensils, I have yet to see anyone asked to either stop doing something, or told to leave the lounge. Unless the staff are going to start intervening with behavior problems regardless of age, then we need some basic guardrails in the meantime.
Jun 14, 23, 3:02 pm
#1505
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I understand that you say you've never seen a poorly behaving child being disciplined - but are you asserting that you've never seen a well behaved child in a MLL?
I can't really comment on what you have or haven't seen ... but I can assure you that I have seen numerous well behaved children in MLLs.
I can't really comment on what you have or haven't seen ... but I can assure you that I have seen numerous well behaved children in MLLs.
Either way, I would just like to see the MLL staff step up and start enforcing some basic standards regardless of age.
Jun 14, 23, 3:02 pm
#1506
Join Date: Aug 2013
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I would prefer to police behavior in general, but honestly I've never see that happen in a MLL - whether it's marauding through the lounge screaming into a zoom meeting, or grabbing food with bare hands, or even licking serving utensils, I have yet to see anyone asked to either stop doing something, or told to leave the lounge. Unless the staff are going to start intervening with behavior problems regardless of age, then we need some basic guardrails in the meantime.
A counter example would be kids running around the LHR MLL and actually going headlong into someone with food, spilling it all over them. Mumbled apologies from the parents, temporary calming of children (but not for long) and zero involvement by the lounge staff. Policing, not so much.
Jun 14, 23, 3:40 pm
#1507
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Even if it's inconsiderate, at least the children are having fun... and maybe it's good for them to get some of that excess energy out before they get on the plane.
Jun 14, 23, 6:37 pm
#1508
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I believe you do need to be 18+ or 19+ to enter the lounge, because alcohol is served, unless the child is accompanied by an adult, who is supposed to monitor and supervise the child.
I doubt AC can realistically or willingly do anything, because nowadays everyone has too much rights. Just think about why masks werent widely enforced during Covid, TTC stopped caring about fare evasion, or large retailers stopped caring about shop liftings.
I doubt AC can realistically or willingly do anything, because nowadays everyone has too much rights. Just think about why masks werent widely enforced during Covid, TTC stopped caring about fare evasion, or large retailers stopped caring about shop liftings.
Jun 14, 23, 7:01 pm
#1509
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: YUL
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Imagine such a bad behaviour in a restaurant or in a bar, do you think the staff would intervene? I believe they would. But it does not happen in those places... Plus the dogs are not allowed in restaurants and bars. Now I feel safer in an airport restaurant than in a lounge. Even though I still sometimes go to the lounge to feel sooo special.
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Jun 14, 23, 7:32 pm
#1510
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TBH I would 100% rather children jumping up and down on seats, than be subjected to some mid-level manager's noisy Zoom call.
Even if it's inconsiderate, at least the children are having fun... and maybe it's good for them to get some of that excess energy out before they get on the plane.
Even if it's inconsiderate, at least the children are having fun... and maybe it's good for them to get some of that excess energy out before they get on the plane.
Jun 14, 23, 8:05 pm
#1511
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Some of the worst offenders I have seen / heard have been parents or grandparents talking to various children over FaceTime. On speaker, turned up to 11.
Jun 14, 23, 9:20 pm
#1512
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"For the safety of our younger guests, each lounge strictly adheres to local laws and regulations regarding the serving of alcoholic beverages. Minors must be accompanied by an adult lounge guest."
Jun 14, 23, 11:10 pm
#1513
Join Date: Dec 2011
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All this talk about kids in the lounges reminds me of the stories that jlisi984 shared (10yrs ago?) about his difficulties getting into the lounge as an unaccompanied minor. Pretty sure he's travelled more of the world by age 15 than I ever will in my lifetime. 
Sep 6, 23, 4:50 pm
#1514
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In the YWG lounge today and the person sitting next to me in the business centre area feels it's OK to have a Teams meeting with who appeared to be their manager sans earbuds. They were even talking about personally confidential info. I sooooo wanted to join the call
Sep 6, 23, 8:34 pm
#1515
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.... that's when you lean in from the side, slowly with a pad and paper, and quietly ask....what was that name again please lol
