Feb 21, 2015, 9:14 pm
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Want to find the new MPM after 10/29/2014?
Aeroplan City Pair mileage (new pseudo-MPM) - FlyerTalk Forums
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Nov 27, 2014, 9:06 am
#76
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
and please update this thread once you have a few numbers, thanks
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...seudo-mpm.html
Dec 2, 2014, 8:27 pm
#77
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: YYC
Programs: Aeroplan E50K, Marriott Titanium/Lifetime Platinum, Accor Diamond
Posts: 274
After 3 calls over the last couple of weeks with 3 different answers as to the new rules regarding MPM, I was able to book the following:
YYZ-ORD - UA J - A320 - <24hrs
ORD-NRT - NH F - 777-300 - Stop
HND-BKK - TG F - 747 - Turn
BKK-FRA - TG F - A380
FRA-AMS - LH J - A320 - <24hrs
AMS-VIE - OS J - A319 - Stop
VIE-BRU - OS J - A319 - < 24hrs
BRU-JFK - SN J - A330-200 - < 24hrs
LGA-YYZ - AC J - E190
Total taxes and fees - 210k miles + $939.XX plus $30 call in fee. The SN flight is just a placeholder for an LH F flight fingers crossed.
As for the 3 separate stories from the 3 different agents, I was initially quoted a mileage pair between ORD and BKK which seemed excessively high. When I went to book a circuitous routing under this MPM, I was told that the actual MPM was around 2k miles lower. The third time I called in I was told that there was no way to tell what the actual MPM was and that they would have to key it in and it would either be valid or invalid. My one concern was that if I want LH for the return flight I may have to fly through ORD which would increase the mileage by almost 600 miles but she indicated that there was no way of her telling whether it would be allowed or not ...argh!
As a side note to the old rules, I was able to book YOW-YYZ-ORD-NRT-HKG-BKK-MUC-VIE-AMS-FRA-JFK-YYZ-YOW a year and a half ago which was a bit of a stretch at the time and it worked and this new itinerary isn't too far off from that.
YYZ-ORD - UA J - A320 - <24hrs
ORD-NRT - NH F - 777-300 - Stop
HND-BKK - TG F - 747 - Turn
BKK-FRA - TG F - A380
FRA-AMS - LH J - A320 - <24hrs
AMS-VIE - OS J - A319 - Stop
VIE-BRU - OS J - A319 - < 24hrs
BRU-JFK - SN J - A330-200 - < 24hrs
LGA-YYZ - AC J - E190
Total taxes and fees - 210k miles + $939.XX plus $30 call in fee. The SN flight is just a placeholder for an LH F flight fingers crossed.
As for the 3 separate stories from the 3 different agents, I was initially quoted a mileage pair between ORD and BKK which seemed excessively high. When I went to book a circuitous routing under this MPM, I was told that the actual MPM was around 2k miles lower. The third time I called in I was told that there was no way to tell what the actual MPM was and that they would have to key it in and it would either be valid or invalid. My one concern was that if I want LH for the return flight I may have to fly through ORD which would increase the mileage by almost 600 miles but she indicated that there was no way of her telling whether it would be allowed or not ...argh!
As a side note to the old rules, I was able to book YOW-YYZ-ORD-NRT-HKG-BKK-MUC-VIE-AMS-FRA-JFK-YYZ-YOW a year and a half ago which was a bit of a stretch at the time and it worked and this new itinerary isn't too far off from that.
Dec 2, 2014, 11:19 pm
#78
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: YYZ-HKT-CWL
Programs: aeroplan E .HH.
Posts: 994
Doable route? Low YQ
Hopping to avoid scam charges. Yyz-IST -Cdg or ( any Europe )TK stop/over Cdg -Tpe -Bkk. BR dest Bkk-Tpe-Yyz. BR
Dec 3, 2014, 6:32 am
#79
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
I suggest you try out multi-city online, or simply call Aeroplan and ask (and do let us know)
My guess is no, but if it does, I'd love to fly that route too!!
YYZ-BKK is ~8500 miles, new MPM is maybe YYZ-BKK - 11055 (q) (from the new MPM 2.0 thread), and your detour is 14139 mi!!!
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...seudo-mpm.html
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=yyz-bkk...wls&MP=r&DU=mi
Dec 3, 2014, 7:22 am
#80
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Toronto, Canada
Programs: Air Miles, Aeroplan
Posts: 7
Valid, not booked:
YYZ-LAX, LAX-ICN, ICN-DPS, DPS-SIN, SIN-TPE, TPE-CDG, CDG-EWR, EWR-YYZ
Valid, booked, all business $286.66 CAD - ticket price around $22K
YYZ-LAX [AC]
LAX-ICN [OZ] (A380)
ICN-TPE [BR] (Hello Kitty plane
)
TPE-DPS [BR] (turn around)
open jaw - 5 weeks in Indonesia!
SIN-IST [SG] (2 day stopover)
IST-BOS [TK]
BOS-YYZ [AC]
155,000 points since DPS is Asia 2 from YYZ
YYZ-LAX, LAX-ICN, ICN-DPS, DPS-SIN, SIN-TPE, TPE-CDG, CDG-EWR, EWR-YYZ
Valid, booked, all business $286.66 CAD - ticket price around $22K
YYZ-LAX [AC]
LAX-ICN [OZ] (A380)
ICN-TPE [BR] (Hello Kitty plane
)TPE-DPS [BR] (turn around)
open jaw - 5 weeks in Indonesia!
SIN-IST [SG] (2 day stopover)
IST-BOS [TK]
BOS-YYZ [AC]
155,000 points since DPS is Asia 2 from YYZ
Last edited by NaomiF; Dec 3, 2014 at 8:32 am
Dec 6, 2014, 8:47 am
#81
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: YVR
Posts: 82
Just booked this for September 2015 for both me and my gf
YYZ - ORD - UA J in E175 (overnight)
ORD - NRT - NH F in B777 (stop)
NRT - SGN - NH J in B767 (stop)
SGN - BKK - TK J in A330 (overnight)
BKK - SYD - TG F in B747 (destination)
SYD - BKK - TG F in B747
BKK - ICN - TG J in B777
ICN - LAX - OZ F in A380
LAX - YYZ - AC J in A320
Total was 220K points, $1365 in ticket taxes plus the $30 call centre fee. Worked out to $1399 in total. All totals are per person. A pricey ticket but we love the itinerary.
YYZ - ORD - UA J in E175 (overnight)
ORD - NRT - NH F in B777 (stop)
NRT - SGN - NH J in B767 (stop)
SGN - BKK - TK J in A330 (overnight)
BKK - SYD - TG F in B747 (destination)
SYD - BKK - TG F in B747
BKK - ICN - TG J in B777
ICN - LAX - OZ F in A380
LAX - YYZ - AC J in A320
Total was 220K points, $1365 in ticket taxes plus the $30 call centre fee. Worked out to $1399 in total. All totals are per person. A pricey ticket but we love the itinerary.
Dec 6, 2014, 9:11 am
#82
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Toronto
Programs: AC SE MM, Marriott Lifetime Titanium, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,101
Just booked this for September 2015 for both me and my gf
YYZ - ORD - UA J in E175 (overnight)
ORD - NRT - NH F in B777 (stop)
NRT - SGN - NH J in B767 (stop)
SGN - BKK - TK J in A330 (overnight)
BKK - SYD - TG F in B747 (destination)
SYD - BKK - TG F in B747
BKK - ICN - TG J in B777
ICN - LAX - OZ F in A380
LAX - YYZ - AC J in A320
Total was 220K points, $1365 in ticket taxes plus the $30 call centre fee. Worked out to $1399 in total. All totals are per person. A pricey ticket but we love the itinerary.
YYZ - ORD - UA J in E175 (overnight)
ORD - NRT - NH F in B777 (stop)
NRT - SGN - NH J in B767 (stop)
SGN - BKK - TK J in A330 (overnight)
BKK - SYD - TG F in B747 (destination)
SYD - BKK - TG F in B747
BKK - ICN - TG J in B777
ICN - LAX - OZ F in A380
LAX - YYZ - AC J in A320
Total was 220K points, $1365 in ticket taxes plus the $30 call centre fee. Worked out to $1399 in total. All totals are per person. A pricey ticket but we love the itinerary.
Jan 2, 2015, 11:36 pm
#83
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Kamloops, BC
Programs: Air Canada-Aeroplan, NEXUS, E50K, Marriott Bonvoy Gold Elite
Posts: 344
Online multicity tool a bust now?
So is the aeroplan multicity tool online just useless now?
I know the mpm's and such changed but even simple ones aren't working.
First tried Ywg-sin, sin-ams, ams-ywg
Also tried ywg-sin, sin-lhr, lhr-ywg
(which a r/t ywg-sin works with a leg of sin-lhr)
Then tried ywg-sin, sin-nrt, nrt-ywg
and also hkg.
None of them worked on the website? Is it possibly due to this new change. It's driving me nuts, trying to get a booking for may/june. Anyone else with these issues?
I know the mpm's and such changed but even simple ones aren't working.
First tried Ywg-sin, sin-ams, ams-ywg
Also tried ywg-sin, sin-lhr, lhr-ywg
(which a r/t ywg-sin works with a leg of sin-lhr)
Then tried ywg-sin, sin-nrt, nrt-ywg
and also hkg.
None of them worked on the website? Is it possibly due to this new change. It's driving me nuts, trying to get a booking for may/june. Anyone else with these issues?
Jan 3, 2015, 9:40 am
#84
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: YYZ
Programs: All Accor Plat, 1865 Voyager, AE E35K, HH Gold,Hyatt, Hrtz Gold, Marriott Gold, NEXUS
Posts: 1,669
So is the aeroplan multicity tool online just useless now?
I know the mpm's and such changed but even simple ones aren't working.
First tried Ywg-sin, sin-ams, ams-ywg
Also tried ywg-sin, sin-lhr, lhr-ywg
(which a r/t ywg-sin works with a leg of sin-lhr)
Then tried ywg-sin, sin-nrt, nrt-ywg
and also hkg.
None of them worked on the website? Is it possibly due to this new change. It's driving me nuts, trying to get a booking for may/june. Anyone else with these issues?
I know the mpm's and such changed but even simple ones aren't working.
First tried Ywg-sin, sin-ams, ams-ywg
Also tried ywg-sin, sin-lhr, lhr-ywg
(which a r/t ywg-sin works with a leg of sin-lhr)
Then tried ywg-sin, sin-nrt, nrt-ywg
and also hkg.
None of them worked on the website? Is it possibly due to this new change. It's driving me nuts, trying to get a booking for may/june. Anyone else with these issues?
Jan 3, 2015, 4:27 pm
#85
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Kamloops, BC
Programs: Air Canada-Aeroplan, NEXUS, E50K, Marriott Bonvoy Gold Elite
Posts: 344
Jan 3, 2015, 9:01 pm
#86
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: YYZ
Programs: All Accor Plat, 1865 Voyager, AE E35K, HH Gold,Hyatt, Hrtz Gold, Marriott Gold, NEXUS
Posts: 1,669
I discovered it a while ago. Some nights it will tell you that something as simple as YYZ-LAX is invalid. Not sure if its a bug or because they are doing overnight maintenance and haven't shut down the system,
Jan 4, 2015, 7:53 pm
#87
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 82
I'm in the very initial stages of planning a mini-RTW, this will be my first redemption on Aeroplan, while there was a ton to it before when you even know what you had to work with, now its just another think we're in the dark about.
From the mileages in the other thread it says YYZ-SYD is 15540, or 31080 return? I'm just playing with routes right now on the site (worry about finding J later), and although great circle says 28585, (yyz-lhr-cai-jnb-sin-syd-lax-ord-yyz) I'm still getting an error saying it exceeds MPM once I've selected my flights. Any idea what's happening there?
From the mileages in the other thread it says YYZ-SYD is 15540, or 31080 return? I'm just playing with routes right now on the site (worry about finding J later), and although great circle says 28585, (yyz-lhr-cai-jnb-sin-syd-lax-ord-yyz) I'm still getting an error saying it exceeds MPM once I've selected my flights. Any idea what's happening there?
Jan 4, 2015, 8:59 pm
#88
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan, Alaska, Marriott
Posts: 435
I'm in the very initial stages of planning a mini-RTW, this will be my first redemption on Aeroplan, while there was a ton to it before when you even know what you had to work with, now its just another think we're in the dark about.
From the mileages in the other thread it says YYZ-SYD is 15540, or 31080 return? I'm just playing with routes right now on the site (worry about finding J later), and although great circle says 28585, (yyz-lhr-cai-jnb-sin-syd-lax-ord-yyz) I'm still getting an error saying it exceeds MPM once I've selected my flights. Any idea what's happening there?
From the mileages in the other thread it says YYZ-SYD is 15540, or 31080 return? I'm just playing with routes right now on the site (worry about finding J later), and although great circle says 28585, (yyz-lhr-cai-jnb-sin-syd-lax-ord-yyz) I'm still getting an error saying it exceeds MPM once I've selected my flights. Any idea what's happening there?
So you need to make sure YYZ-SYD is under 15540 both ways
Jan 4, 2015, 10:12 pm
#89
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 82
Ah I suppose that makes sense. I was actually able to price YHZ-LHR-JNB-SIN-PER-SIN-LHR-YHZ and a few other reasonably direct routes over the pacific as well. YHZ-PER being about 11.5k one way as the crow flies vs 9500 for YYZ-SYD, so I guess the MPM accordingly has a bit more leeway.
Jan 4, 2015, 10:30 pm
#90
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan, Alaska, Marriott
Posts: 435
sorry, was on my phone while plane was taxing to take off, so i was in a bit of a rush to type, let me just clarify
MPM is the value for which each direction's routing must be under.
ie: YYZ-x-y-z-SYD must be under 15.5K and return SYD-a-b-c-YYZ must also be under 15.5K
MPM is the value for which each direction's routing must be under.
ie: YYZ-x-y-z-SYD must be under 15.5K and return SYD-a-b-c-YYZ must also be under 15.5K