FAQ: Air Canada New meal offerings for International Business Class Customers
Nov 25, 2018, 5:11 pm
#2341
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: YUL
Programs: AC SEMM, NEXUS
Posts: 858
AC17 YVR-TPE November 2018
Excellent crew today, shout out to SD Kathleen and her team. ^
Champagne tastes so much better when it's properly chilled, and served in a flute.
(sma)
The Smoked trout, grapefruit, pickled onion, egg, lemon emulsion was exactly the same as my YVR-CDG flight a month or so ago. I ate everything except the grapefruit which I'm still not sure works well with the rest of dish.
The garlic bread was excellent and it seems AC is slowly finding it's balance there. The challenge still is keeping the slices warm when they reach the last row, and I think there is room for improvement there, but it's a really minor quip.
I also think AC could be a bit more inventive with the side salad, and dressing. It has been the exact same salad for as long as I can recall, except when they added (and then removed) the parmesan shavings.
For my main, I tried the Lime and chili salmon, cauliflower quinoa, green beans, shiitake mushroom. The fish was moist and flavourful and not overly salty, and the dish was not too heavy which I always appreciate.
Cheese course of Oka, Brie, medium Cheddar, crackers, along with a glass of Port.
And yes, the Dark chocolate fondant, hazelnut praline, blueberry ginger compote is back. I wonder if it's here to stay for good, like the dreaded NA omelette...
Over Japan, it's noodle time! As always, Hot noodle soup, shrimp and pork wontons, gai-lan hit the spot, especially with a generous helping of the spicy sauce. ^
I did not partake in the pre arrival meal.
Excellent crew today, shout out to SD Kathleen and her team. ^
Champagne tastes so much better when it's properly chilled, and served in a flute.
(sma)
The Smoked trout, grapefruit, pickled onion, egg, lemon emulsion was exactly the same as my YVR-CDG flight a month or so ago. I ate everything except the grapefruit which I'm still not sure works well with the rest of dish.
The garlic bread was excellent and it seems AC is slowly finding it's balance there. The challenge still is keeping the slices warm when they reach the last row, and I think there is room for improvement there, but it's a really minor quip.
I also think AC could be a bit more inventive with the side salad, and dressing. It has been the exact same salad for as long as I can recall, except when they added (and then removed) the parmesan shavings.
For my main, I tried the Lime and chili salmon, cauliflower quinoa, green beans, shiitake mushroom. The fish was moist and flavourful and not overly salty, and the dish was not too heavy which I always appreciate.
Cheese course of Oka, Brie, medium Cheddar, crackers, along with a glass of Port.
And yes, the Dark chocolate fondant, hazelnut praline, blueberry ginger compote is back. I wonder if it's here to stay for good, like the dreaded NA omelette...
Over Japan, it's noodle time! As always, Hot noodle soup, shrimp and pork wontons, gai-lan hit the spot, especially with a generous helping of the spicy sauce. ^
I did not partake in the pre arrival meal.
Nov 27, 2018, 5:30 am
#2343
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 492
AC17 YVR-TPE November 2018
Excellent crew today, shout out to SD Kathleen and her team. ^
Champagne tastes so much better when it's properly chilled, and served in a flute.
(sma)
The Smoked trout, grapefruit, pickled onion, egg, lemon emulsion was exactly the same as my YVR-CDG flight a month or so ago. I ate everything except the grapefruit which I'm still not sure works well with the rest of dish.
The garlic bread was excellent and it seems AC is slowly finding it's balance there. The challenge still is keeping the slices warm when they reach the last row, and I think there is room for improvement there, but it's a really minor quip.
I also think AC could be a bit more inventive with the side salad, and dressing. It has been the exact same salad for as long as I can recall, except when they added (and then removed) the parmesan shavings.
For my main, I tried the Lime and chili salmon, cauliflower quinoa, green beans, shiitake mushroom. The fish was moist and flavourful and not overly salty, and the dish was not too heavy which I always appreciate.
Cheese course of Oka, Brie, medium Cheddar, crackers, along with a glass of Port.
And yes, the Dark chocolate fondant, hazelnut praline, blueberry ginger compote is back. I wonder if it's here to stay for good, like the dreaded NA omelette...
Over Japan, it's noodle time! As always, Hot noodle soup, shrimp and pork wontons, gai-lan hit the spot, especially with a generous helping of the spicy sauce. ^
I did not partake in the pre arrival meal.
Excellent crew today, shout out to SD Kathleen and her team. ^
Champagne tastes so much better when it's properly chilled, and served in a flute.
(sma)
The Smoked trout, grapefruit, pickled onion, egg, lemon emulsion was exactly the same as my YVR-CDG flight a month or so ago. I ate everything except the grapefruit which I'm still not sure works well with the rest of dish.
The garlic bread was excellent and it seems AC is slowly finding it's balance there. The challenge still is keeping the slices warm when they reach the last row, and I think there is room for improvement there, but it's a really minor quip.
I also think AC could be a bit more inventive with the side salad, and dressing. It has been the exact same salad for as long as I can recall, except when they added (and then removed) the parmesan shavings.
For my main, I tried the Lime and chili salmon, cauliflower quinoa, green beans, shiitake mushroom. The fish was moist and flavourful and not overly salty, and the dish was not too heavy which I always appreciate.
Cheese course of Oka, Brie, medium Cheddar, crackers, along with a glass of Port.
And yes, the Dark chocolate fondant, hazelnut praline, blueberry ginger compote is back. I wonder if it's here to stay for good, like the dreaded NA omelette...
Over Japan, it's noodle time! As always, Hot noodle soup, shrimp and pork wontons, gai-lan hit the spot, especially with a generous helping of the spicy sauce. ^
I did not partake in the pre arrival meal.
Nov 27, 2018, 1:26 pm
#2344
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Toronto
Programs: MileagePlus 1K, Marriott Platinum, MPC Green
Posts: 43
Does anyone have the menu for AC2 from November or December (or recent past)? Air Canada website does not have a menu for AC2. I could find NRT - YVR/YYC (https://www.aircanada.com/content/da..._YVR%20YYC.pdf) menu, but that doesn't seem to be the menu for HND-YYZ. I would guess they'd have hot light bites options for AC2 as the flight is longer and the other parts would be very similar. Can anyone confirm? Thanks!
Nov 27, 2018, 1:29 pm
#2345
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Does anyone have the menu for AC2 from November or December (or recent past)? Air Canada website does not have a menu for AC2. I could find NRT - YVR/YYC (https://www.aircanada.com/content/da..._YVR%20YYC.pdf) menu, but that doesn't seem to be the menu for HND-YYZ. I would guess they'd have hot light bites options for AC2 as the flight is longer and the other parts would be very similar. Can anyone confirm? Thanks!
Nov 29, 2018, 2:33 pm
#2346
Join Date: Dec 2017
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Nov 29, 2018, 2:38 pm
#2347
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However, I also pointed out that they are NOT there for all routes and in some cases, they are shared e.g. AC YVR-HKG and YVR-TPE, yet no menus at all for AC 18 or AC 8.
I also suggested a while back AC take a look at how LH has their menus available. LH FT has a thread too.
Nov 29, 2018, 3:32 pm
#2348
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J class reduced service on late departures
I recently flew YYZ to GRU in J. To my surprise this is now "express service" meaning no appetizer, no drinks until meal delivery. This was in both directions.
I do not appreciate this at all. There is always the option for express meal service in J. I like to savor the dining experience, not having it all thrown at me all at once.
I also know on "red eye flights" there is no dinner service at all. Only breakfast. I discovered this the hard way on a YVR YYZ flight when I was expecting a dinner meal. Only peanuts available.
I consider these "AC enhancements" to be downgraded service.
100,000miler and 100K forever.
I do not appreciate this at all. There is always the option for express meal service in J. I like to savor the dining experience, not having it all thrown at me all at once.
I also know on "red eye flights" there is no dinner service at all. Only breakfast. I discovered this the hard way on a YVR YYZ flight when I was expecting a dinner meal. Only peanuts available.
I consider these "AC enhancements" to be downgraded service.
100,000miler and 100K forever.
Nov 29, 2018, 3:33 pm
#2349
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: SFO/YYZ
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The menus are back and a few of us posted them just above.
However, I also pointed out that they are NOT there for all routes and in some cases, they are shared e.g. AC YVR-HKG and YVR-TPE, yet no menus at all for AC 18 or AC 8.
I also suggested a while back AC take a look at how LH has their menus available. LH FT has a thread too.
However, I also pointed out that they are NOT there for all routes and in some cases, they are shared e.g. AC YVR-HKG and YVR-TPE, yet no menus at all for AC 18 or AC 8.
I also suggested a while back AC take a look at how LH has their menus available. LH FT has a thread too.
I can pull menus for AC739/756 though. I didn't think to even try after checking AC1 failed, so thank you for the heads up.
Nov 29, 2018, 4:14 pm
#2350
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: TK *G
Posts: 3,099
This has been around for a while I think?
It started on TCON flights. Eastbound red eye flights departing after 10pm or so gets breakfast instead of dinner.
Then it expanded to late night TATL, excluding DXB/DEL/BOM.
I am not sure when it expanded to long haul flights like GRU. Are they downgrading on DXB/DEL flights as well? If so, huge downgrade.
It started on TCON flights. Eastbound red eye flights departing after 10pm or so gets breakfast instead of dinner.
Then it expanded to late night TATL, excluding DXB/DEL/BOM.
I am not sure when it expanded to long haul flights like GRU. Are they downgrading on DXB/DEL flights as well? If so, huge downgrade.
Nov 29, 2018, 4:17 pm
#2351
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I recently flew YYZ to GRU in J. To my surprise this is now "express service" meaning no appetizer, no drinks until meal delivery. This was in both directions.
I do not appreciate this at all. There is always the option for express meal service in J. I like to savor the dining experience, not having it all thrown at me all at once.
I also know on "red eye flights" there is no dinner service at all. Only breakfast. I discovered this the hard way on a YVR YYZ flight when I was expecting a dinner meal. Only peanuts available.
I consider these "AC enhancements" to be downgraded service.
100,000miler and 100K forever.
I do not appreciate this at all. There is always the option for express meal service in J. I like to savor the dining experience, not having it all thrown at me all at once.
I also know on "red eye flights" there is no dinner service at all. Only breakfast. I discovered this the hard way on a YVR YYZ flight when I was expecting a dinner meal. Only peanuts available.
I consider these "AC enhancements" to be downgraded service.
100,000miler and 100K forever.
This has been around for a while I think?
It started on TCON flights. Eastbound red eye flights departing after 10pm or so gets breakfast instead of dinner.
Then it expanded to late night TATL, excluding DXB/DEL/BOM.
I am not sure when it expanded to long haul flights like GRU. Are they downgrading on DXB/DEL flights as well? If so, huge downgrade.
It started on TCON flights. Eastbound red eye flights departing after 10pm or so gets breakfast instead of dinner.
Then it expanded to late night TATL, excluding DXB/DEL/BOM.
I am not sure when it expanded to long haul flights like GRU. Are they downgrading on DXB/DEL flights as well? If so, huge downgrade.
From October 23, 2017, in this very master thread on all things International J meal service:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28965717-post1759.html
Some background info here. After extensive surveys, audits and type-trials, extra-late departures have transitioned to an Express Late Supper based on Customer feedback. Particularly on YVR-SYD, a late midnight departure, the overwhelming preference was for a quick all-inclusive dinner and sleep. Pre-change, it was not uncommon on late departures to have in excess of 50% + waste, nor did it make sense to be offering the full meal deal until 0200 as Customers were nodding off.
Breakfast orders are not generally taken for the second meal service on ULH flights, as again, Customers are in sleep mode, however FF Status is observed when offering the entrees.
Breakfast orders are not generally taken for the second meal service on ULH flights, as again, Customers are in sleep mode, however FF Status is observed when offering the entrees.
Nov 29, 2018, 5:07 pm
#2352
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: SFO/YYZ
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This reminds me that I was pleasantly surprised to get dinner service on AC788 LAX-SFO back in September, which leaves at 10:15pm. Given that I always get breakfast on AC754 SFO-YYZ which leaves about half an hour later I wasn't expecting it. I wonder exactly how they decide the cutoff for it.
Nov 29, 2018, 5:31 pm
#2354
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Toronto - YYZ
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Posts: 5,899
According to @ACYYZ/SD last year, it applies to departures starting at 21:30.
Domestic:
Dinner is served until 22:29
Breakfast is served from 22:30 >
International:
Late Night Express Dinner/Supper is served from 21:30 >
With one notable exception for the Winter Schedule. 836 to MAD has split departure times. 22:05 on Tu/Th & 20:00 on Su. For product consistency and an exceptionally high demand for Express Meals on this route due to short-ish flying time - Late Night (Hot) Express Dinner is served on all 3 weekly flights.
Nov 29, 2018, 5:34 pm
#2355
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Standards vary Domestic vs International.
Domestic:
Dinner is served until 22:29
Breakfast is served from 22:30 >
International:
Late Night Express Dinner/Supper is served from 21:30 >
With one notable exception for the Winter Schedule. 836 to MAD has split departure times. 22:05 on Tu/Th & 20:00 on Su. For product consistency and an exceptionally high demand for Express Meals on this route due to short-ish flying time - Late Night (Hot) Express Dinner is served on all 3 weekly flights.
Domestic:
Dinner is served until 22:29
Breakfast is served from 22:30 >
International:
Late Night Express Dinner/Supper is served from 21:30 >
With one notable exception for the Winter Schedule. 836 to MAD has split departure times. 22:05 on Tu/Th & 20:00 on Su. For product consistency and an exceptionally high demand for Express Meals on this route due to short-ish flying time - Late Night (Hot) Express Dinner is served on all 3 weekly flights.