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FAQ: Air Canada New meal offerings for International Business Class Customers

Old May 5, 2016, 9:05 am
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Originally Posted by 24left
We are not the only ones to notice the cold, hard rolls. I’ve just stopped eating them and it matters not whether they are the viagra rolls served Dom and TB or the ridiculous things that are supposed to be gourmet dinner rolls on the TPACs etc.

The worst experience was the November AC 4 that Nomad and I returned on, which I reported upthread.

I and others maintain that if BR and CX and AA can manage a basket of warm, soft multiple types of breads and rolls on their 12-15 hour flights, or why SQ can manage the same for 4 or 5 hour flights, so can AC. They can. IMHO, AC does not care about what we think of the rolls. They fit the food budget and the fewer of us that eat them, the more pennies saved for AC because they will eventually not load them or board fewer.

Or, why these other carriers can offer mini-bottles of olive oil along with the basket of rolls, but it is not an option for AC.


For sheer entertainment value, we should start a “State of the Bread” thread. Then we can all post bread photos and encounters with hard rolls and how we managed.

(hmmmmm……)
It is my opinion that AC knows. However there are two options. Either AC feels we are the 1% and our views are not shared by others or AC has decided that we will fly with them in spite of their crappy bread.

I have not been to prison but I would think the bread they are given is superior.
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Old May 5, 2016, 4:55 pm
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Originally Posted by capedreamer
Is it me or are the dinner rolls always served cold and hard? Aren't they meant to be warm and soft?

I've found this to be less of an issue on domestic/trans-border flights, but often the case for int'l.
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I have not been to prison but I would think the bread they are given is superior.
I've had the bread warmed recently on domestic tcon... nice, dry, HARD. I'm not sure warmed is a good thing in low humidity environments. I prefer cold and chewy...

But this brings up a point for AC: Why not just save money and forgo the bread? Could also lose the jam, the PB, whatever else weird junk they're supposed to ask if I want...
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Old May 5, 2016, 6:20 pm
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Originally Posted by DrunkCargo
I've had the bread warmed recently on domestic tcon... nice, dry, HARD. I'm not sure warmed is a good thing in low humidity environments. I prefer cold and chewy...

But this brings up a point for AC: Why not just save money and forgo the bread? Could also lose the jam, the PB, whatever else weird junk they're supposed to ask if I want...
That's why airlines like BR offer garlic bread. Sure the ambient environment is dry, but they can butter it up
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Old May 5, 2016, 10:04 pm
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The bread issue is bugging me. (because FWP really and jet lag)

I looked back at all my photos from meal service in J on AC, CX, SQ and BR
There were a couple of differences and one main one.

The type of bread product that AC offers is completely different. It has a hard dough and crust to begin with. It comes frozen (or very cold) in plastic bags (saw them in the galley on AC 4). They are warmed up which may further dry out and harden the crust (recognition goes to Drunk Cargo).

The other 3 airlines serve completely different products, as well as a pretty diverse variety such as whole wheat, baguette-type, pretzel roll, multi-grain breads, garlic breads, and nut breads. These all have much softer textures. I am not sure how they are boarded, or how they are heated, but not a single type of bread or roll I sampled on ANY of the multiple flights with SQ, CX or BR, was hard, cold or dried out.

Then I remembered one other major difference.

AC tends to serve the rolls from a sometimes-covered tray or basket on top of the cart when serving the salad.

The fact that a potentially decent warm bun is then placed on an ice-cold plate just adds to the problem.

None of the other carriers serve the bread on a cart. The appetizer is served and immediately a FA presents the entire basket of warm items. They are not sitting on a cold cart.

Also, one thing I noticed when sitting further back in J on different AC aircraft, is that by the time the cart with the salad gets to the back, the rolls that might have started out warm and soft are now not, due to the time it took the service to get from row 1 to row 10.

And yes, I will acknowledge that SQ and BR and even CX seem to have more FAs serving. I am quite sure they are stationed in the other cabins but come up to J and even PE to help with meal service.

Anyway, I know this is an absolute F.W.P. Doesn't mean we can't discuss it and ask why AC can't make changes as they have with the salad offering on the Dom route for e.g.

P.S. I ordered a special meal on one of my TATLs. The rolls were cold so I asked the FA if they could be warmed up. They came back soft and warm and really tasty. Go figure.

Now if we could move on from that little pat of butter.....
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Old May 6, 2016, 9:29 am
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The last food item I care about on a flight is bread.
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Old May 6, 2016, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by mapleg
The last food item I care about on a flight is bread.
We all have different opinions of things that matter, be it seats, lighting food, drink, glasses, the size of the foot well in J on the 789, etc.

The bread topic has been mentioned frequently, so I and others posted our observations and experiences. That's the great thing about FT.
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Old May 6, 2016, 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by mapleg
The last food item I care about on a flight is bread.
The last food items I care about on a flight are, in no particular order:

Cheese plate
Dessert
Nuts, any temperature
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Old May 6, 2016, 11:45 am
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Originally Posted by 24left
Anyway, I know this is an absolute F.W.P. Doesn't mean we can't discuss it and ask why AC can't make changes as they have with the salad offering on the Dom route for e.g.

P.S. I ordered a special meal on one of my TATLs. The rolls were cold so I asked the FA if they could be warmed up. They came back soft and warm and really tasty. Go figure.

Now if we could move on from that little pat of butter.....
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Isn't flying, and hence all of flyertalk, a FWP?

I swear AC had square rolls before as well as the dildos. I think it'd be easiest to just lose the bread altogether and drop that budget into the food.

I'm about to Kosher up one of my TATLs just to see what it's like now. Really enjoyed the Kosher on Via last night.
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Old May 6, 2016, 11:49 am
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Originally Posted by DrunkCargo
Isn't flying, and hence all of flyertalk, a FWP?

I swear AC had square rolls before as well as the dildos. I think it'd be easiest to just lose the bread altogether and drop that budget into the food.
Yes, all of FT is FWP, which makes it ironic that RCHHMP are here to try to spoil the party.

Yes, there are square and dildo bread.
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Old May 6, 2016, 1:58 pm
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State of the Bread

As a suggestion by 24LEFT
I think that it could be entertaining if we took pictures of the rolls that are provided on the AC flights and perhaps other air carriers

"For sheer entertainment value, we should start a “State of the Bread” thread. Then we can all post bread photos and encounters with hard rolls and how we managed."
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Old May 6, 2016, 2:02 pm
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Originally Posted by traacs
As a suggestion by 24LEFT
I think that it could be entertaining if we took pictures of the rolls that are provided on the AC flights and perhaps other air carriers

"For sheer entertainment value, we should start a “State of the Bread” thread. Then we can all post bread photos and encounters with hard rolls and how we managed."

Ah, thank you. I'm ready

(I was going to start the thread but then Nomad's trolls would start coming after me. Apparently some people here have no sense of humour)


So, shall we start with the viagra rolls or the door-stop breakfast croissants?

(moving State of the Bread back into the international J meal thread misses the point me thinks)
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Originally Posted by 24left
Ah, thank you. I'm ready

(I was going to start the thread but then Nomad's trolls would start coming after me. Apparently some people here have no sense of humour)


So, shall we start with the viagra rolls or the door-stop breakfast croissants?

(moving State of the Bread back into the international J meal thread misses the point me thinks)
I don't think trolls are very good at multi tasking, they seem to be very uni-focused. You will need to get your own trolls and leave Nomads alone.


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Old May 6, 2016, 2:28 pm
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I'm sure others will agree that "State of the Bread" should stand alone as a semi-humorous look at stuff like this.

This viagra roll still scares me sometimes.
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Originally Posted by 24left
I'm sure others will agree that "State of the Bread" should stand alone as a semi-humorous look at stuff like this.

This viagra roll still scares me sometimes.
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This is precisely the one I was thinking of. I often have to stop myself from thinking about what I'm eating.
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Old May 6, 2016, 2:54 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
I'm sure others will agree that "State of the Bread" should stand alone as a semi-humorous look at stuff like this.

This viagra roll still scares me sometimes.
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Wow, yours is huge.
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