ffsim

Chill with the attitude and the accusations.

My perfectly legal carry-on weighs nearly 10lbs empty. That's almost half my allowable weight in bag alone. Add a reasonable amount of clothes, shoes, etc and it's very easy to bust the 22lbs limit set by AC.

I often have to interact with check-in staff and have had my carry-on weighed *every time* I speak with them. Guess what. I've always kept it under the limit. So relax with branding people rule-abusing "whiners"

BlueMilk

I took me a long time to learn how to pack in 22 pounds for anything more than a day. It's not easy, particularly in winter.

Getting a shoulder bag helped. AC increasing the weight limit a few pounds would help more.

I hope AC takes notice of Westjet's change and reacts appropriately.

gglave

I think in the 'oversize' department most people will be fine with it and accept the enforcement.

As others have said, I think if they enforce 'overweight' it will induce the rage - I suspect many many rollaboards (likely mine included) fit well within the size range, but weigh more than 10 kg.

...unfortunately, enforcing the weight will be where the real checked baggage revenue will start to flow.

24left

^

I have a Heys lightweight hard-shell. it may not be as upscale as what others are using. However, it is 23x39x53 cm, slightly under AC's 23x40x55cm
It only weighs 3.3 kg empty. Even when full, it rarely goes over 10kg based on what I pack. Fits perfectly in 320/321 bins with room to throw coat on top, some of the 763's (not the 25 year-old ones). I leave it at home if I am on any RJs. Recently used back-pack instead for same-day and one-day trips.

InTheAirGuy

Luggage nazis out in full force at SFO.

This is gonna be bad, folks. Bad.

Just expect gate congestion, anger, SNAFU, brutal.

Gotta love an airline that loves it customers!

InTheAirGuy

If I can comment I my own thread, it's going to be bad, because it will just make the boarding congestion just so much worse. Expect the boarding process to go to hell in the next few weeks as the policy is enforced and over-enthusiastic GA's get mental on this.

Jebby_ca

@yvr76 - no status. At YYZ, he was forced to pay as it was after US Pre-clearance, but before the security screening where you drop off your bags.

At SFO, no charge as he was already at the gate.

He's pissed, and will be filing a complaint.

BlondeBomber

Some varied opinions but little light on safety issues of overhead bins (ie. where is the evidence that 8 kg is safe and 11 or even 18 kg is not). One might argue that nothing should be overhead (except fluffy pillows of course)

Continental (when they were CO) expanded their bins to accommodate carryon so they obviously weren't concerned about safety from weight perspective.

Seems strange that there are no carryon weight limits for many N. American airlines, just size so it makes you wonder if the regulators don't really care either.

In any event, I posted to the AC rep thread that I think 18 kg or 40 pounds is just fine as a max (most would not use that weight--I rarely have) so long as the size restrictions are enforced. This provides a good balance between weight and size so all/most pax needs can be accommodated.

I would even go so far as to say I would pay $25 for a carryon bag over a certain weight limit (say 10 kg) so I could keep it with me provided it did not slow down boarding. Sometimes things are too valuable, too fragile to check but still fit in the legal carryon by dimensions.

AC681

The Q and the 705 have the smallest bins and will take a regulation sized bag, even one that's a bit thicker then regulation size, as long as it's got some give.

I can even get my crew bag, which is right at regulation size into the bin of a CRJ200, but it's a really tight fit if I have even a pair of socks in an outside compartment, it wont fit. The bin doesn't sound like it likes it very much.

Lllahim

When AC introduced the bag charge, many FF said it was about time. The non-status Tango buying public should pay. As it turns out, AC will now size and check carry-ons for everybody; VIPs, SEs, Elites, Tangoers...... As I always say, it is soon to rejoice any enhancement to "them" because it has a way of biting "us" where it can hurt. Everyone must now buy a tape and scale to size before leaving home. Actually, you may want to carry them with you just in case you expand at the Airport. Maybe shop; maybe repack after security!

superangrypenguin

Agreed. Non status Tangoers should pay. When one travels every week, some flexibility should be afforded. Not saying one should break the rules, but the rules should be rewritten around FF's. No amount of eups will take me away from being over 10kg. I hope AC rewrites it's weight policy (size I understand) to be "aligned with Westjet", otherwise I may take my business elsewhere as 30 minutes a flight waiting for a bag (if that) is stupid.

hazcaddy

About 4 weeks ago the thread "They actually used the carry-on sizer!" was met here with "about bloody time" and similar shouts of joy. So now the approach has gone system-wide, I am somewhat bemused (and the Bens must be smiling) to see all these "But they better not touch MY stuff" responses...

As someone who is married to a Power-Shopper-and-then-some, who vacuums up El Paseo in Palm Desert and Times Square in Causeway Bay on a yearly basis, carry-on only is out of my reach. (In fact, we often come home with a new suitcase that we didn't have on the way out.)

The change in opinion in 4 weeks about sizing the carry-ons is interesting to watch, though.

YYCYYZ

Nothing per se. But hard sided/wheeled carry-on bags do not compress. My duffle can be stuffed (if necessary) into a small opening. Actually the sizer in and of itself is flawed. If my duffle is longer than the sizer but can compress by 6 inches + (i.e. when the bin is closed) then what's the problem (other than my clothes getting squished)?

Plus wheels allow for people to over-estimate what they can haul around the airport. No one will convince me otherwise on this one. Wheels on carry-ons

Finally, because of my poor leather duffle's ability to compress the evil wheel carry-on bags crush it with their hard-sided heft.

PS - I'm just taking the piss a bit. Consistent rules is obviously the way to go.

PPS - No, but seriously, I'm judging you if you have wheels on your carry-on. Silently judging.

PPPS - No just kidding, you're all great.

Sean Peever

Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I didn't mean safety from something falling or similar. What I meant is that there is a tolerance from the aircraft manufacture as to how much weight can actually be in the bins, ie: what the bins are rated to be able to hold.

So I fully support and hope that the weight limit is increased but I of course don't want them to risk exceeding the manufacture weight limit on the bins.

Now yes, many airlines have eliminated the limit saying simply that you have to be able to lift it into the bin unassisted. They have clearly done the study to figure out that they can do this without hitting the limit. If this is the case all the better!

jcamp028

Yes, but now AC wants to force you to hand over your $700 carry-on to pearson baggage handling so that they can manage to break it in a single trip.