Aug 21, 2015, 9:39 pm
Last edit by: briguychau
2016 777 Routes
*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.
Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.
Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future
77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary – London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto – Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto – Vancouver – Sydney: AC33/34
77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto – Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto – Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto – Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto – Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto – Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto – Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver – Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver – Tokyo Narita: AC3/4
77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal – London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver – Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver – Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver – London Heathrow: AC854/855
*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.
Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.
Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future
77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary – London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto – Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto – Vancouver – Sydney: AC33/34
77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto – Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto – Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto – Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto – Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto – Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto – Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver – Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver – Tokyo Narita: AC3/4
77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal – London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver – Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver – Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver – London Heathrow: AC854/855
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Aircraft Tracking (last updated Jun 16, 2016) Plane Status Location Details 77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax) C-FIUA-701 Done Loc:HKG In:Apr 09/16 Out:May 09/16 (30 days) C-FIUF-702 Done Loc:HKG In:Nov 08/15 Out:Dec 27/15 (49 days) C-FIUJ-703 Done Loc:HKG In:Dec 27/15 Out:Feb 04/16 (39 days) C-FIVK-704 Done Loc:HKG In:May 09/16 Out:Jun 08/16 (30 days) C-FNND-705 Done Loc:HKG In:Mar 09/16 Out:Apr 09/16 (31 days) C-FNNH-706 Done Loc:HKG In:Feb 04/16 Out:Mar 09/16 (34 days) 77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax) C-FITL-731 Done Loc:GSO In:Sep 01/15 Out:Nov 20/15 (80 Days) C-FITU-732 Done Loc:GSO In:May 03/16 Out:Jun 05/16 (33 days) C-FITW-733 Done Loc:GSO In:Nov 23/15 Out:Jan 06/16 (45 days) C-FIUL-734 Done Loc:GSO In:Mar 16/16 Out:Apr 17/16 (32 days) C-FIUR-735 Done Loc:GSO In:Dec 09/15 Out:Jan 18/16 (40 days) C-FIUV-736 Done Loc:GSO In:Feb 26/16 Out:Apr 02/16 (36 days) C-FIUW-737 Done Loc:GSO In:Jan 06/16 Out:Feb 12/16 (37 days) C-FIVM-738 Done Loc:GSO In:Feb 13/16 Out:Mar 16/16 (32 days) C-FRAM-739 Done Loc:GSO In:Apr 02/16 Out:May 02/16 (30 days) C-FIVQ-740 Done Loc:GSO In:Jan 20/16 Out:Feb 26/16 (37 days) C-FIVR-741 Done Loc:GSO In:Apr 17/16 Out:May 17/16 (30 days) C-FIVS-742 Done Loc:GSO In:Oct 23/15 Out:Dec 08/15 (46 days) 77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax) C-FIVW-743 Done Loc:YMX In:Mar 28/16 Out:Apr 23/16 (26 days) C-FIVX-744 Done Loc:YMX In:May 21/16 Out:Jun 03/16 (13 days) C-FNNQ-745 Done Loc:YMX In:Jun 03/16 Out:Jun 16/16 (13 days) C-FNNU-746 Done Loc:YMX In:May 06/16 Out:May 21/16 (15 days) C-FNNW-747 Done Loc:YMX In:Apr 23/16 Out:May 06/16 (13 days) C-FJZS-748 In Service Loc:YMX FF:Mar 24/16 Del:Apr 26/16 EIS:May 18/16 C-FKAU-749 In Service Loc:YMX FF:May 01/16 Del:May 21/16 EIS:Jun 10/16
Air Canada plans to refurbish 18 of its 777
Jan 9, 2016, 12:17 pm
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Are these seats sold out of YVR or NY? When CX switches aircraft and there is no F class, their system shows the cabin sold out.
Jan 9, 2016, 12:38 pm
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Seats were available as I was looking at a RT booking for the YVR-HKG segment.
A couple of examples. Obviously other dates are different.
CX889 on Jan 20 is F3 A2 / CX888 on Jan 27 is F4 A3
CX889 on Feb 11 is F1 A0 / CX888 on Feb 20 is F2 A1
Jan 9, 2016, 1:42 pm
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Incidentally, while flipping through this information, the lowest-density 777 on the market is a virtual tie between BA's 224 (14F/48J/40PY-122Y) and Etihad (8F/40J/177Y), while the highest is actually *not* AC's 777HD (36J/24PY/398Y) but Air France, who cram in one more row of Economy for a bone-crushing 14J/32PY/422Y on their "Caribbean" configuration.
The only note in Air France's favour is that they're mainly flying that awful beast on routes in the 7-to-9-hour range.
Jan 9, 2016, 2:46 pm
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And what do you want to bet that the only reason they have F is for JFK-HKG? If people were paying for F out of YVR, airlines wouldn't be dropping it.
Jan 10, 2016, 5:49 am
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CX actually run their *lowest*-density 777-ER on 888/889, at 275 pax, and their highest-density on 838-839, at 398.
Incidentally, while flipping through this information, the lowest-density 777 on the market is a virtual tie between BA's 224 (14F/48J/40PY-122Y) and Etihad (8F/40J/177Y), while the highest is actually *not* AC's 777HD (36J/24PY/398Y) but Air France, who cram in one more row of Economy for a bone-crushing 14J/32PY/422Y on their "Caribbean" configuration.
The only note in Air France's favour is that they're mainly flying that awful beast on routes in the 7-to-9-hour range.
Incidentally, while flipping through this information, the lowest-density 777 on the market is a virtual tie between BA's 224 (14F/48J/40PY-122Y) and Etihad (8F/40J/177Y), while the highest is actually *not* AC's 777HD (36J/24PY/398Y) but Air France, who cram in one more row of Economy for a bone-crushing 14J/32PY/422Y on their "Caribbean" configuration.
The only note in Air France's favour is that they're mainly flying that awful beast on routes in the 7-to-9-hour range.
A few other also offer 777s in the 425/450 range. It is the new norm.
Jan 10, 2016, 6:32 am
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I'm not convinced that the only reason they have F on the 888/889 is because of JFK. They could drop F on one of their 4 daily flights and it likely wouldn'd be missed.
Jan 10, 2016, 9:05 am
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That Caribbean AF 777 config is used on CDG-YUL. In the summer they have 2 a day and throw in a third A340 or 747 for good measure. It was one of the reasons AC ordered the HDs given that they were #4 carrier on Canada's second busiest long-haul route (from the Bens in the now defunct official AC page).
Was talking about this with the SD on Friday's flight and she noted that in many places, the 777HD carries enough people to be counted as a village.
Jan 10, 2016, 10:34 pm
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Well JFK-HKG has 4 flights (on the random day I checked in January) and all 4 have F. 3 non-stop and 1 via YVR. The EWR-HKG does not have F.
I'm not convinced that the only reason they have F on the 888/889 is because of JFK. They could drop F on one of their 4 daily flights and it likely wouldn'd be missed.
I'm not convinced that the only reason they have F on the 888/889 is because of JFK. They could drop F on one of their 4 daily flights and it likely wouldn'd be missed.
Jan 10, 2016, 10:38 pm
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Jan 11, 2016, 11:03 am
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Is there a single route O/D Canada that would be profitable for a true F cabin (Not the N/A version, but a real Asian/Middle East airline version)?
I have the feeling any airline currently offering a true F to and from Canada is doing it because they have no choice fleet wise.
We are the poor little cousins of the G8.
I have the feeling any airline currently offering a true F to and from Canada is doing it because they have no choice fleet wise.
We are the poor little cousins of the G8.
Jan 11, 2016, 11:12 am
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In an attempt to keep this thread relevant..... C-FIVQ is scheduled to be back out of maintenance for HKG-YYZ tomorrow. Assuming it operates as scheduled, wiki to be updated!
Jan 11, 2016, 11:21 am
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It won't be an issue to operate as it'll only be sold to 349 anyway. Once they are all converted I don't know if AC plans on actually scheduling the 400-seater on 15/16.