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2016 777 Routes

*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.

Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.

Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future

77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary – London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto – Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto – Vancouver – Sydney: AC33/34

77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto – Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto – Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto – Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto – Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto – Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto – Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver – Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver – Tokyo Narita: AC3/4

77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal – London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver – Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver – Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver – London Heathrow: AC854/855

Code:
 
 Aircraft Tracking (last updated Jun 16, 2016)
 Plane       Status       Location Details
 
 77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
 C-FIUA-701  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Apr 09/16  Out:May 09/16  (30 days)
 C-FIUF-702  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Nov 08/15  Out:Dec 27/15  (49 days)
 C-FIUJ-703  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Dec 27/15  Out:Feb 04/16  (39 days)
 C-FIVK-704  Done         Loc:HKG  In:May 09/16  Out:Jun 08/16  (30 days)
 C-FNND-705  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Mar 09/16  Out:Apr 09/16  (31 days)
 C-FNNH-706  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Feb 04/16  Out:Mar 09/16  (34 days)
 
 77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
 C-FITL-731  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Sep 01/15  Out:Nov 20/15  (80 Days)
 C-FITU-732  Done         Loc:GSO  In:May 03/16  Out:Jun 05/16  (33 days)
 C-FITW-733  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Nov 23/15  Out:Jan 06/16  (45 days)
 C-FIUL-734  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Mar 16/16  Out:Apr 17/16  (32 days)  
 C-FIUR-735  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Dec 09/15  Out:Jan 18/16  (40 days)
 C-FIUV-736  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 26/16  Out:Apr 02/16  (36 days)
 C-FIUW-737  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 06/16  Out:Feb 12/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVM-738  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 13/16  Out:Mar 16/16  (32 days)
 C-FRAM-739  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 02/16  Out:May 02/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVQ-740  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 20/16  Out:Feb 26/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVR-741  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 17/16  Out:May 17/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVS-742  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Oct 23/15  Out:Dec 08/15  (46 days)
 
 77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
 C-FIVW-743  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Mar 28/16  Out:Apr 23/16  (26 days)
 C-FIVX-744  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 21/16  Out:Jun 03/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNQ-745  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Jun 03/16  Out:Jun 16/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNU-746  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 06/16  Out:May 21/16  (15 days)
 C-FNNW-747  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Apr 23/16  Out:May 06/16  (13 days)
 C-FJZS-748  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:Mar 24/16  Del:Apr 26/16  EIS:May 18/16
 C-FKAU-749  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:May 01/16  Del:May 21/16  EIS:Jun 10/16


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Old Jul 6, 2016, 3:49 pm
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MUC-YYZ is it the new J class?

Basically, are all the 77w/77l planes are now equipped with the new executive pods, or just the routes listed on the WIKI here?

Thanks a lot
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Old Jul 6, 2016, 5:00 pm
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All 777s have the new pods, without exception.
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Old Jul 7, 2016, 1:31 am
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Originally Posted by kramerica
Basically, are all the 77w/77l planes are now equipped with the new executive pods, or just the routes listed on the WIKI here?

Thanks a lot
YYZ-MUC is A330 over summer, so that will still be old J (classic pods). Once it switches back to either 787 or 777 of any kind, it will be new executive pods.
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Old Jul 7, 2016, 5:32 am
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Originally Posted by briguychau
YYZ-MUC is A330 over summer, so that will still be old J (classic pods). Once it switches back to either 787 or 777 of any kind, it will be new executive pods.
According to my ticket (October), it's a 777. Is there any reason it could change?
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Old Jul 7, 2016, 5:42 am
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Originally Posted by kramerica
According to my ticket (October), it's a 777. Is there any reason it could change?
October is not exactly Summer

I just did a Google Flight check, it's being sold as 777. (Which is why I guess the price somehow dived $300 as soon as 787 is being sold as oppose to A330 in mid SEP, then become 777 later)

The reason: Seasonal Demand?
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Old Jul 9, 2016, 8:14 am
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I just flew both a 777 and 788 and I found the new J seats to be very restricting when in lie flat mode (777 more so than the 788). I was unable to turn on my side in either seat and in order get out of the seat in lie flat mode I would have to actually bring the seat up into more of a sitting position and I'm only 6'4.

I've never had any issues with CX's J seats. I had assumed that they were the same type, but clearly that's not the case. It may simply be that the position of the tray table makes all the difference. I actually prefer LH as at least their seats have more mobility when in lie flat mode.

Hopefully AC gets the seat right in the next go around.
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Old Jul 9, 2016, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by shore9
I just flew both a 777 and 788 and I found the new J seats to be very restricting when in lie flat mode (777 more so than the 788). I was unable to turn on my side in either seat and in order get out of the seat in lie flat mode I would have to actually bring the seat up into more of a sitting position and I'm only 6'4.

I've never had any issues with CX's J seats. I had assumed that they were the same type, but clearly that's not the case. It may simply be that the position of the tray table makes all the difference. I actually prefer LH as at least their seats have more mobility when in lie flat mode.

Hopefully AC gets the seat right in the next go around.
Hey there shore9,aka beach digit
I flew the 789 and 777 J cabin last week. Although not as tall as you, (I am at 1.83M) I find these seats quite comfy
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Old Jul 9, 2016, 12:12 pm
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Well being vertically challenged J on the 788/789 & 777 works fine for me.

Last week the family and i flew on 777 FIN704, YYC-LHR and we all enjoyed a good nights sleep in J. Wife loves the new IFE.

Next week in will fly 787 YVR-EWR & YYZ-YYC in PY for the first time so i am looking forward to that experience.

One day I may fly in Y on the 787
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Old Jul 9, 2016, 8:59 pm
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Originally Posted by HerpaYvr
Well being vertically challenged J on the 788/789 & 777 works fine for me.

Last week the family and i flew on 777 FIN704, YYC-LHR and we all enjoyed a good nights sleep in J. Wife loves the new IFE.

Next week in will fly 787 YVR-EWR & YYZ-YYC in PY for the first time so i am looking forward to that experience.

One day I may fly in Y on the 787
Have flown Y on the 787 a few times to Tokyo, not bad at all with a bulkhead seat. I'm 6'2
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Old Jul 10, 2016, 9:30 pm
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Sorry if this is answered somewhere, but Is there a list of differences between 777 and 787 executive pods?

Also, did the 777 IFE ever have the messaging feature or is that just 787? Couldn't find it yesterday on a 777-300. Actually playing with the IFE now that I've discovered you can interact with it. =P At least 20+ flights with the 787 video on loop the whole flight.
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Old Jul 10, 2016, 10:01 pm
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Originally Posted by DrunkCargo
Sorry if this is answered somewhere, but Is there a list of differences between 777 and 787 executive pods?
No list. One needs to peruse the Dreamliner thread and this thread to figure out the differences.

Talking about the 787 in this thread or talking about the refurbed 777s in the Dreamliner thread, from my understanding of the rules, is not allowed.

You could cause moderation tizzy if you start a comparison thread though.
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Old Jul 14, 2016, 7:00 am
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Seat selection premium economy AC 33

Flying PE on AC33. YYZ SYD (via YVR) seat map shows 777-200 I believe
Seats available in bulkhead row 12 and 14
Conflicting info on "no foot rest" for bulkhead seat and "limited recline" in row 14
Currently in 12 window. Would like to keep window and it's available for both segments in 12 and 14. What is the better seat or is there one and what's the difference or are there effectlvely none
Return is on the 787 so if there are any pointers there please go ahead
Many thanks

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Old Jul 14, 2016, 7:41 am
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I go in 13C for both; like to be able to stretch my legs into seat below, find 12 too limiting. Plus, the IFE system is better on the seat in front vs the wall, even when said person reclines.

Only thing to remember about 14 is you get served food later. Not a major issue in A/C but in 14H or something (I changed to help someone sit with his wife) it's a big delay and almost last choice. I've only flown 14 on the 787, but had no recline issues.
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Old Jul 14, 2016, 7:52 am
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Haven't sat in row 12 in the refurbished 777s, but on the 788, row 12 IFEs are located via the swing out unit in those particular seats' armrest. A good workout, for sure.

Legroom is a bit limiting in 12, but easier to cross over your seatmate's legs.

Personally hate feeling the finger poking against my seatback when someone browses the IFE, so I always choose row 14 seats.


Originally Posted by jc94
I go in 13C for both; like to be able to stretch my legs into seat below, find 12 too limiting. Plus, the IFE system is better on the seat in front vs the wall, even when said person reclines.

Only thing to remember about 14 is you get served food later. Not a major issue in A/C but in 14H or something (I changed to help someone sit with his wife) it's a big delay and almost last choice. I've only flown 14 on the 787, but had no recline issues.
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Old Jul 14, 2016, 5:44 pm
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Originally Posted by aircrashsurvivor
Flying PE on AC33. YYZ SYD (via YVR) seat map shows 777-200 I believe
Seats available in bulkhead row 12 and 14
Conflicting info on "no foot rest" for bulkhead seat and "limited recline" in row 14
Currently in 12 window. Would like to keep window and it's available for both segments in 12 and 14. What is the better seat or is there one and what's the difference or are there effectlvely none
Return is on the 787 so if there are any pointers there please go ahead
Many thanks
Row 14 recline is not limited.
Some find legroom to be limited in row 12.
I always take 14C if it is a full flight, and 14D if there's empty space (this almost always guarantees an empty seat next to me).
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