Aug 21, 2015, 9:39 pm
Last edit by: briguychau
2016 777 Routes
*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.
Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.
Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future
77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary – London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto – Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto – Vancouver – Sydney: AC33/34
77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto – Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto – Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto – Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto – Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto – Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto – Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver – Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver – Tokyo Narita: AC3/4
77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal – London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver – Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver – Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver – London Heathrow: AC854/855
*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.
Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.
Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future
77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary – London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto – Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto – Vancouver – Sydney: AC33/34
77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto – Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto – Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto – Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto – Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto – Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto – Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver – Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver – Tokyo Narita: AC3/4
77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal – London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver – Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver – Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver – London Heathrow: AC854/855
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Aircraft Tracking (last updated Jun 16, 2016) Plane Status Location Details 77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax) C-FIUA-701 Done Loc:HKG In:Apr 09/16 Out:May 09/16 (30 days) C-FIUF-702 Done Loc:HKG In:Nov 08/15 Out:Dec 27/15 (49 days) C-FIUJ-703 Done Loc:HKG In:Dec 27/15 Out:Feb 04/16 (39 days) C-FIVK-704 Done Loc:HKG In:May 09/16 Out:Jun 08/16 (30 days) C-FNND-705 Done Loc:HKG In:Mar 09/16 Out:Apr 09/16 (31 days) C-FNNH-706 Done Loc:HKG In:Feb 04/16 Out:Mar 09/16 (34 days) 77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax) C-FITL-731 Done Loc:GSO In:Sep 01/15 Out:Nov 20/15 (80 Days) C-FITU-732 Done Loc:GSO In:May 03/16 Out:Jun 05/16 (33 days) C-FITW-733 Done Loc:GSO In:Nov 23/15 Out:Jan 06/16 (45 days) C-FIUL-734 Done Loc:GSO In:Mar 16/16 Out:Apr 17/16 (32 days) C-FIUR-735 Done Loc:GSO In:Dec 09/15 Out:Jan 18/16 (40 days) C-FIUV-736 Done Loc:GSO In:Feb 26/16 Out:Apr 02/16 (36 days) C-FIUW-737 Done Loc:GSO In:Jan 06/16 Out:Feb 12/16 (37 days) C-FIVM-738 Done Loc:GSO In:Feb 13/16 Out:Mar 16/16 (32 days) C-FRAM-739 Done Loc:GSO In:Apr 02/16 Out:May 02/16 (30 days) C-FIVQ-740 Done Loc:GSO In:Jan 20/16 Out:Feb 26/16 (37 days) C-FIVR-741 Done Loc:GSO In:Apr 17/16 Out:May 17/16 (30 days) C-FIVS-742 Done Loc:GSO In:Oct 23/15 Out:Dec 08/15 (46 days) 77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax) C-FIVW-743 Done Loc:YMX In:Mar 28/16 Out:Apr 23/16 (26 days) C-FIVX-744 Done Loc:YMX In:May 21/16 Out:Jun 03/16 (13 days) C-FNNQ-745 Done Loc:YMX In:Jun 03/16 Out:Jun 16/16 (13 days) C-FNNU-746 Done Loc:YMX In:May 06/16 Out:May 21/16 (15 days) C-FNNW-747 Done Loc:YMX In:Apr 23/16 Out:May 06/16 (13 days) C-FJZS-748 In Service Loc:YMX FF:Mar 24/16 Del:Apr 26/16 EIS:May 18/16 C-FKAU-749 In Service Loc:YMX FF:May 01/16 Del:May 21/16 EIS:Jun 10/16
Air Canada plans to refurbish 18 of its 777
Apr 24, 2016, 3:55 am
#976
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On a wide body, with Y lavs generally forward and aft, peons stay in steerage, and Cow has the right to expect no Y bums near his pod.
Apr 24, 2016, 1:34 pm
#977
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http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Air...7-300ER_v2.php
Apr 24, 2016, 2:39 pm
#978
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My yvr to nrt flight was supposed to be in a 787 but has been changed to a 777w. Why would they make this change? What are the odds it will change back? I assume it will be one of the refurbished 777s. Those that have flown J in both, can you compare the level of service? Given the j cabin is so much smaller on the 787?
Apr 24, 2016, 3:05 pm
#979
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The guy in charge of plane configuration saves money and perhaps gets a bonus by doing away with the front lav and adding more seats. He does not care about the consequences, not within his area of responsibility. The SD deals with the issue by sending Y customers to the J lav.
Apr 24, 2016, 3:28 pm
#980
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My yvr to nrt flight was supposed to be in a 787 but has been changed to a 777w. Why would they make this change? What are the odds it will change back? I assume it will be one of the refurbished 777s. Those that have flown J in both, can you compare the level of service? Given the j cabin is so much smaller on the 787?
My Company is very astute when it comes to matching aircraft type to demand. It's possible that advance bookings on this route were much higher than projected which necessitated the deployment of a larger aircraft. Aircraft are also upgauged to meet seasonal demand - example: YYZ-FCO reflecting increasing traffic levels.
March: 767-300
April: A330-300
May: 787-9
June: 777-300
Apr 24, 2016, 3:31 pm
#981
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My Company is very astute when it comes to matching aircraft type to demand. It's possible that advance bookings on this route were much higher than projected which necessitated the deployment of a larger aircraft. Aircraft are also upgauged to meet seasonal demand - example: YYZ-FCO reflecting increasing traffic levels.
March: 767-300
April: A330-300
May: 787-9
June: 777-300
March: 767-300
April: A330-300
May: 787-9
June: 777-300
Apr 24, 2016, 11:10 pm
#982
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It's just $35 a year, god , how CHEAP can some one be! 
How dare these peasants use J washrooms while riding on a Tango ticket I subsidized upon with my hard earned $$$ and my SE get out of the jail card.
Okay I kid I kid...
But, This is what happens when you jam pack the Y cabin, If I see huge line up I will surely use the J lavs on a 13 hour TPAC.
How dare these peasants use J washrooms while riding on a Tango ticket I subsidized upon with my hard earned $$$ and my SE get out of the jail card.
Okay I kid I kid...
But, This is what happens when you jam pack the Y cabin, If I see huge line up I will surely use the J lavs on a 13 hour TPAC.
It's not like that one 767 where there simply aren't any Y lavs near the front of the plane.
That's a whole other story, we're talking about the 20 minutes on a narrowbody when a Y pax in row 15 can't get past the drinks cart to the Y lav.
On a wide body, with Y lavs generally forward and aft, peons stay in steerage, and Cow has the right to expect no Y bums near his pod.
On a wide body, with Y lavs generally forward and aft, peons stay in steerage, and Cow has the right to expect no Y bums near his pod.
Apr 25, 2016, 12:01 am
#983
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Apr 25, 2016, 1:27 am
#984
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Apr 25, 2016, 1:44 am
#985
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Ugh, I waited about 15 -20 mins last time back on a 3-3-3(Was pretty unusual tbh- a first for me, the fact that my Y Breakfast meal was not properly heated could be why lol), I get that I should be using the Y lav, but if I see a long line up on all four lavs in sight and I really have to go - I am going to storm past PY to relieve the urgent need.
Apr 25, 2016, 2:20 am
#986
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Well I doubt it's going to happen on Layout 3 flights, Layout 2 and 4 however, at least on YYZ-YVR I have seen many people from Y moving forward to use the wash room between PY(Or Y+ depends how you want to call it) and J and I don't think there is any issue with that.
Apr 25, 2016, 4:16 am
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Well I doubt it's going to happen on Layout 3 flights, Layout 2 and 4 however, at least on YYZ-YVR I have seen many people from Y moving forward to use the wash room between PY(Or Y+ depends how you want to call it) and J and I don't think there is any issue with that.
I have seen FAs yell at passengers for entering the J cabin.
I have mentioned to FAs that Y pax are coming up, and that has solved the problem.
On the 320 where I had some fat butt in my face, I actually mentioned the whole Y pax in J issue, and got a very snotty "SERVICE IS IN PROGRESS BACK THERE", so I had to revert to the "I don't want to sit there with some economy passenger's butt in my face while she waits for the lav", within earshot of "some economy passenger".
I'm REASONABLE. The problem I find is that if you have someone having an "emergency" and coming up to J, suddenly EVERYONE thinks it's fine.
I've been on narrow-bodies where there were about 6 people lined up in the J aisle in front of the curtain. I couldn't see further back.
If I wanted a line of passengers waiting for the lav beside my seat, I'd book row 33 and save a ton of money.
I'm quite curious what the SD's reaction will be when there's a line of Y pax and I walk up to the galley and say "I have to pee and I paid to use THIS lav." Luckily that's never happened.
Apr 25, 2016, 6:56 am
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"I understand that I am specifically forbidden from doing ____, and I plan to fully respect those rules right up until I decide that that doesn't work for me anymore, at which point all bets are off and I'll do whatever I want."
Apr 25, 2016, 8:15 am
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On the 320 where I had some fat butt in my face, I actually mentioned the whole Y pax in J issue, and got a very snotty "SERVICE IS IN PROGRESS BACK THERE", so I had to revert to the "I don't want to sit there with some economy passenger's butt in my face while she waits for the lav", within earshot of "some economy passenger".
I'm REASONABLE. The problem I find is that if you have someone having an "emergency" and coming up to J, suddenly EVERYONE thinks it's fine.
I'm REASONABLE. The problem I find is that if you have someone having an "emergency" and coming up to J, suddenly EVERYONE thinks it's fine.
I mean, as long as it's sanctioned by the SD, I doubt they'll do much to keep Y pax to using Y lavs.