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2016 777 Routes

*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.

Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.

Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future

77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary – London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto – Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto – Vancouver – Sydney: AC33/34

77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto – Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto – Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto – Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto – Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto – Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto – Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver – Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver – Tokyo Narita: AC3/4

77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal – London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver – Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver – Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver – London Heathrow: AC854/855

Code:
 
 Aircraft Tracking (last updated Jun 16, 2016)
 Plane       Status       Location Details
 
 77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
 C-FIUA-701  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Apr 09/16  Out:May 09/16  (30 days)
 C-FIUF-702  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Nov 08/15  Out:Dec 27/15  (49 days)
 C-FIUJ-703  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Dec 27/15  Out:Feb 04/16  (39 days)
 C-FIVK-704  Done         Loc:HKG  In:May 09/16  Out:Jun 08/16  (30 days)
 C-FNND-705  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Mar 09/16  Out:Apr 09/16  (31 days)
 C-FNNH-706  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Feb 04/16  Out:Mar 09/16  (34 days)
 
 77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
 C-FITL-731  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Sep 01/15  Out:Nov 20/15  (80 Days)
 C-FITU-732  Done         Loc:GSO  In:May 03/16  Out:Jun 05/16  (33 days)
 C-FITW-733  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Nov 23/15  Out:Jan 06/16  (45 days)
 C-FIUL-734  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Mar 16/16  Out:Apr 17/16  (32 days)  
 C-FIUR-735  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Dec 09/15  Out:Jan 18/16  (40 days)
 C-FIUV-736  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 26/16  Out:Apr 02/16  (36 days)
 C-FIUW-737  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 06/16  Out:Feb 12/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVM-738  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 13/16  Out:Mar 16/16  (32 days)
 C-FRAM-739  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 02/16  Out:May 02/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVQ-740  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 20/16  Out:Feb 26/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVR-741  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 17/16  Out:May 17/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVS-742  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Oct 23/15  Out:Dec 08/15  (46 days)
 
 77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
 C-FIVW-743  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Mar 28/16  Out:Apr 23/16  (26 days)
 C-FIVX-744  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 21/16  Out:Jun 03/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNQ-745  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Jun 03/16  Out:Jun 16/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNU-746  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 06/16  Out:May 21/16  (15 days)
 C-FNNW-747  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Apr 23/16  Out:May 06/16  (13 days)
 C-FJZS-748  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:Mar 24/16  Del:Apr 26/16  EIS:May 18/16
 C-FKAU-749  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:May 01/16  Del:May 21/16  EIS:Jun 10/16


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Old Feb 9, 2016, 10:04 am
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last week YYZ-EZE -- old pods (I still like them)
weekend EZE-YYZ -- new pods OK but a little cramped sleeping on my side, like the seat comfort though as well as space for things and big screen (SOOOO much better).
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Old Feb 9, 2016, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by tomvancouver
does this mean that, on a 77W, without PE, its the old style classic pods?
Internationally, yes. Domestically, you need to check the seatmap to see if the plane has PE seats that are being sold as Y.
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Old Feb 11, 2016, 8:01 am
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Now onboard AC 15. Fin 703 and the new cabin. Beauty!

Also confirmed, spacing in the pod area and entry is tighter than on the 788s
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Old Feb 11, 2016, 8:46 am
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Looks like I'll be flying J in an updated 77L in June...any recommendations for best seats? I was always a 6A fan on the old version...is 7A equivalent to that?
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Old Feb 11, 2016, 10:04 am
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Has anyone tried 1A/K? If so, is the window situation better than with the old pods, or is it still a poor choice (i.e. less windows) vs. the other window seats? I've been looking at the photos that have been posted but its not entirely clear...
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Old Feb 13, 2016, 1:55 pm
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I'm on AC137 YYZ/YVR tomorrow. Scheduled as 77WHD, but looks like it has been subbed to be the first flight for refurbished FIN 737. Again, increases my chances of an upgrade- as long as the gate agents process properly :-)
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Old Feb 13, 2016, 2:52 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
Now onboard AC 15. Fin 703 and the new cabin. Beauty!

Also confirmed, spacing in the pod area and entry is tighter than on the 788s
Headrest covers are back too ^

Originally Posted by YVR72
I'm on AC137 YYZ/YVR tomorrow. Scheduled as 77WHD, but looks like it has been subbed to be the first flight for refurbished FIN 737. Again, increases my chances of an upgrade- as long as the gate agents process properly :-)
Sorry to disappoint but it looks like 737 is currently doing a FRA turn, then operating YYZPEK tomorrow. You're still HD J/2
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Old Feb 13, 2016, 4:20 pm
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Originally Posted by winnipegrev
Headrest covers are back too ^



Sorry to disappoint but it looks like 737 is currently doing a FRA turn, then operating YYZPEK tomorrow. You're still HD J/2
Yes, I just noticed that too. FNNQ. So far in 2016, my 2015 loyalty to AC has been sincerely unrewarding.
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Old Feb 13, 2016, 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by winnipegrev
Headrest covers are back too ^

......
Yup
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Old Feb 13, 2016, 7:29 pm
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Originally Posted by t_rex
Looks like I'll be flying J in an updated 77L in June...any recommendations for best seats? I was always a 6A fan on the old version...is 7A equivalent to that?

As I walked around looking at the new cabin (second time on a refurb fin), I was quite sure I counted 7 in rows A and K, but only 6 in D G. In the mini-J, A and K have 3 and D G have 4

Looked to me like 7 A K had a bit more privacy in the corner.
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Old Feb 13, 2016, 9:35 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
Yup
In the photo you posted, it looks like they changed the amenity kit, or am I mistaken?
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Old Feb 14, 2016, 4:00 am
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Originally Posted by jsfrSE
In the photo you posted, it looks like they changed the amenity kit, or am I mistaken?

Very good eye. This was actually the second time it's happened on one of my TPACs.

What you see are the PE amenity kits.

Thing is, both times when I saw them during boarding and getting to my J pod, I told the SD and/or the FA who was nearby.

In both cases, the responses I got from the crew were argumentative and almost rude. We all know what AC's J kits look like. I've had crew tell me those are the right kits. If I'm in the mood for a battle, I show them a photo.

Eventually, I find a crew member with enough experience who knows I'm right and agrees the wrong kits were put out and then goes and gets the bag with the J kits.

Was it a lazy person who put out the PE ones?
Was it a crew member who really doesn't know the difference between the two?

Who knows. But does it really make sense to argue with a customer who likely flies the routes more than they do?

And yes, FWP.

But since it bugged me, I provided the detailed answer.
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Old Feb 14, 2016, 2:30 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
Very good eye. This was actually the second time it's happened on one of my TPACs.

What you see are the PE amenity kits.

Thing is, both times when I saw them during boarding and getting to my J pod, I told the SD and/or the FA who was nearby.

In both cases, the responses I got from the crew were argumentative and almost rude. We all know what AC's J kits look like. I've had crew tell me those are the right kits. If I'm in the mood for a battle, I show them a photo.

Eventually, I find a crew member with enough experience who knows I'm right and agrees the wrong kits were put out and then goes and gets the bag with the J kits.

Was it a lazy person who put out the PE ones?
Was it a crew member who really doesn't know the difference between the two?

Who knows. But does it really make sense to argue with a customer who likely flies the routes more than they do?

And yes, FWP.

But since it bugged me, I provided the detailed answer.
Thanks. Surprising that they would put this in J, unless someone forgot to load them in the first place and they had to take the ones from PE...

The current AC amenity kits, either in J or PE have been the same for a while now... I wish they can update them soon, they are getting old and dull, compare to what United offers in First and Business:

https://www.runwaygirlnetwork.com/wp...owshedKits.jpg
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Old Feb 14, 2016, 2:35 pm
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Originally Posted by jsfrSE
Thanks. Surprising that they would put this in J, unless someone forgot to load them in the first place and they had to take the ones from PE...

The current AC amenity kits, either in J or PE have been the same for a while now... I wish they can update them soon, they are getting old and dull, compare to what United offers in First and Business:

https://www.runwaygirlnetwork.com/wp...owshedKits.jpg
I flew United GF SFO-LHR last May, and I got a cellophane-wrapped bundle of stuff. Certainly nothing like that.

Glad to see they're improving.

Edit: This is what I had in GF:
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Old Feb 14, 2016, 4:29 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
I flew United GF SFO-LHR last May, and I got a cellophane-wrapped bundle of stuff. Certainly nothing like that.

Glad to see they're improving.

Edit: This is what I had in GF:
When I flew ORD-HKG in J with UA early November 2015, they had the new amenity kits. They are really nice
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