Use AC SWU on UA??
Jun 28, 2002, 8:45 am
#1
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Use AC SWU on UA??
Here's the deal: I am going H class on a UA ticket YVR-ORD-AMS. The first leg is on AC metal; the second on UA metal.
1. As an AC Elite, do I have upgrade possibilities? An AC SWU that would upgrade me on boh legs would be ideal, of course, but is that possible?
2. If not, can I at least get an upgrade on the first leg, since that's AC metal?
3. In either case (or actually even if there are no upgrades), am I better off checking in at the AC counter or do I have to go to the UA check-in (and would that be better)?
Coming back is the reverse itinerary, which means starting on UA metal, so I'm guessing that there's no UG possible--is that correct?
Thanks for any help with this.
1. As an AC Elite, do I have upgrade possibilities? An AC SWU that would upgrade me on boh legs would be ideal, of course, but is that possible?
2. If not, can I at least get an upgrade on the first leg, since that's AC metal?
3. In either case (or actually even if there are no upgrades), am I better off checking in at the AC counter or do I have to go to the UA check-in (and would that be better)?
Coming back is the reverse itinerary, which means starting on UA metal, so I'm guessing that there's no UG possible--is that correct?
Thanks for any help with this.
Jun 28, 2002, 9:02 am
#2
Company Representative - Air Canada
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You can only upgrade the AC segment using AC SWU. It also depends on who ticketed your reservation. Is the YVR-ORD segment UA or AC flight number? UA H class is not equivalent to AC H class. If the YVR-ORD is booked under UA codeshare flight number, then the H class is not upgradeable.
Where to check in depends on who ticketed your reservation.
If you flight is overbooked, you have a pretty good chance of getting a comp upgrade as a Star Gold on UA.
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Where to check in depends on who ticketed your reservation.
If you flight is overbooked, you have a pretty good chance of getting a comp upgrade as a Star Gold on UA.
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Jun 28, 2002, 9:04 am
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Is the AC-operated portion of your itinerary ticketed under the AC flight number or the UA codeshare flight number?
Whoops, already covered... you're too quick, Empress!
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Whoops, already covered... you're too quick, Empress!
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Jun 28, 2002, 9:38 am
#5
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Actually wait! Good news for you.
Assuming both your fare basis and fare class is 'H' on your UA ticket, you can in fact upgrade the YVR-ORD on a standby basis using your AC certs because it looks like UA H = AC H on YVR-AMS!
What's your fare basis?
Assuming both your fare basis and fare class is 'H' on your UA ticket, you can in fact upgrade the YVR-ORD on a standby basis using your AC certs because it looks like UA H = AC H on YVR-AMS!
What's your fare basis?
Jun 28, 2002, 9:50 am
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Fare basis is probably "HHX2MCE" or "HHW2MCE" if you're travelling soon which is equivalent to AC's "HHXAP" or "HHWAP". Now you've got to think of a way to convince the YVR agent that UA H = AC H in this case since you can't upgrade in advance.
Probably printing the fare listing page is the only way or even call the Elite desk and get them to put a note in there. I know the SE desk offered to do that for me once so it's possible.
Probably printing the fare listing page is the only way or even call the Elite desk and get them to put a note in there. I know the SE desk offered to do that for me once so it's possible.
Jun 28, 2002, 10:09 am
#8
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FYI... here's the list of equivalent fare basis for UA & AC on YVR-AMS.
Code:
YVR - AMS USD 738.00 QLXNL2M (UA) VLXNL2M (AC) USD 784.00 QLWNL2M (UA) VLWNL2M (AC) USD 890.00 QKXNL2M (UA) VKXNL2M (AC) USD 936.00 QKWNL2M (UA) VKWNL2M (AC) USD 962.00 QHXNL2M (UA) VHXNL2M (AC) USD 1008.00 QHWNL2M (UA) VHWNL2M (AC) USD 1008.00 HLX2MCE (UA) HLXAP (AC) USD 1061.00 HLW2MCE (UA) HLWAP (AC) USD 1100.00 MLXAPCE (UA) BLXAP (AC) USD 1153.00 MLWAPCE (UA) BLWAP (AC) USD 1225.00 HKX2MCE (UA) HKXAP (AC) USD 1278.00 HKW2MCE (UA) HKWAP (AC) USD 1330.00 MKXAPCE (UA) BKXAP (AC) USD 1370.00 HHX2MCE (UA) HHXAP (AC) USD 1383.00 MKWAPCE (UA) BKWAP (AC) USD 1422.00 HHW2MCE (UA) HHWAP (AC) USD 1508.00 MHXAPCE (UA) BHXAP (AC) USD 1560.00 MHWAPCE (UA) BHWAP (AC) USD 1705.00 BLECE (UA) YLE9 (AC) USD 1797.00 BKECE (UA) YKE9 (AC) USD 1900.00 Y2 (UA) Y2 (AC) USD 2001.00 BHECE (UA) YHE9 (AC) USD 3891.00 YR (UA) YR (AC) USD 4046.00 Y (UA) Y (AC) USD 4433.00 CR (UA) JR (AC) USD 4610.00 C (UA) USD 7598.00 FR (UA) FR (AC) USD 9114.00 F (UA)
Jun 28, 2002, 2:25 pm
#11
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Yes, but only at the gate.
I think it might also be possible to get a SuperElite concierge to assist prior to the gate if you are SE but have no direct experience.
I think it might also be possible to get a SuperElite concierge to assist prior to the gate if you are SE but have no direct experience.
Jun 28, 2002, 2:25 pm
#12
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On a standby basis, yes. Cannot be confirmed in advance. I have done this to SFO before with no real problem. As Empress has pointed out, the fare class is the key and the two letters dont always match. I tried to do it with a UA V class last year, no luck 
Jun 28, 2002, 6:15 pm
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Just in case anyone is interested Someone on ebay has 4 SE upgrades for auction. Starting bid is $270. Better move quick!
Still hoping an SE might be going from YVR-LHR on 4th August or back on 13th.
Does anyone know what the deal is on taking a V fare up to a H fare (assuming H space is available). I know there is no change fee going to a full Y, but can you do this with a H? I looked on expedia at fare rules, but couldnt see anything
Anyone ever tried finding a SE at the gate or check in? I have the feeling it would look rather dodgy!
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Someone on ebay has 4 SE upgrades for auction. Starting bid is $270. Better move quick!Still hoping an SE might be going from YVR-LHR on 4th August or back on 13th.
Does anyone know what the deal is on taking a V fare up to a H fare (assuming H space is available). I know there is no change fee going to a full Y, but can you do this with a H? I looked on expedia at fare rules, but couldnt see anything
Anyone ever tried finding a SE at the gate or check in? I have the feeling it would look rather dodgy!
[This message has been edited by lmartin999 (edited 06-28-2002).]
Jun 28, 2002, 7:20 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by lmartin999:
Does anyone know what the deal is on taking a V fare up to a H fare (assuming H space is available).</font>
Does anyone know what the deal is on taking a V fare up to a H fare (assuming H space is available).</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Anyone ever tried finding a SE at the gate or check in? I have the feeling it would look rather dodgy!</font>
It was a lot easier back in the old days when we could upgrade from any fare! An easy way to make good friends with that cute girl.
