Sep 19, 2017, 10:25 am
Last edit by: 24left
Jan 18 2021 TC issues Airworthiness Directive for the 737 MAX
Link to post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32976892-post4096.html
Cabin photos
Post 976 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29534462-post976.html
Post 1300 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29780203-post1300.html
Cabin Layout
Interior Specs can be found here https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/fly/onboard/fleet.html
- Window seats may feel narrower to come as the armrests are placed "into" the "curvature" of the cabin.
- Seats with no windows feel even more narrower as there is no space created by the curvature of window.
- All bulkhead seats have very limited legroom.
- Seats 15A, 16A, 16F, 17A and 17F have limited windows.
- Exit rows 19 and 20 have more legroom than regular preferred seats.
Routes
The 737 MAX is designated to replace the A320-series. Based on announcements and schedule updates, the following specific routes will be operated by the 737 MAX in future:
YYZ-LAX (periodic flights)
YYZ-SNN (new route)
YUL-DUB (new route)
YYZ/YUL-KEF (replacing Rouge A319)
YYT-LHR (replacing Mainline A319)
YHZ-LHR (replacing Mainline B767)
Hawaii Routes YVR/YYC (replacing Rouge B767)
Many domestic trunk routes (YYZ, YVR, YUL, YYC) now operated by 7M8, replacing A320 family
Link to post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32976892-post4096.html
Cabin photos
Post 976 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29534462-post976.html
Post 1300 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29780203-post1300.html
Cabin Layout
Interior Specs can be found here https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/fly/onboard/fleet.html
- Window seats may feel narrower to come as the armrests are placed "into" the "curvature" of the cabin.
- Seats with no windows feel even more narrower as there is no space created by the curvature of window.
- All bulkhead seats have very limited legroom.
- Seats 15A, 16A, 16F, 17A and 17F have limited windows.
- Exit rows 19 and 20 have more legroom than regular preferred seats.
Routes
The 737 MAX is designated to replace the A320-series. Based on announcements and schedule updates, the following specific routes will be operated by the 737 MAX in future:
YYZ-LAX (periodic flights)
YYZ-SNN (new route)
YUL-DUB (new route)
YYZ/YUL-KEF (replacing Rouge A319)
YYT-LHR (replacing Mainline A319)
YHZ-LHR (replacing Mainline B767)
Hawaii Routes YVR/YYC (replacing Rouge B767)
Many domestic trunk routes (YYZ, YVR, YUL, YYC) now operated by 7M8, replacing A320 family
Air Canada Selects Boeing 737 MAX to Renew Mainline Narrowbody Fleet
Mar 12, 2019, 5:11 am
#1801
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I see jsfrSE beat me to this. Sorry, reading on phone, missed it. Note that those countries listed - Australia, Signapore, etc. - don't even want to see the plane in their airspace.
Heading to the airport to catch my 777 YYZ - YVR. But maybe it will be swapped for a 737 MAX.
Heading to the airport to catch my 777 YYZ - YVR. But maybe it will be swapped for a 737 MAX.
Mar 12, 2019, 5:18 am
#1802
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Boeing to update software in model of plane involved in Ethiopian crash
Firm says it's been developing 'enhancement' since fatal Lion Air crash in October
Boeing confirmed late on Monday it will deploy a software upgrade to the 737 Max 8 — the model that crashed on Sunday in Ethiopia and six months ago in Indonesia — a few hours after the Federal Aviation Administration said it would mandate "design changes" in the aircraft by April.
Boeing did not reference Sunday's Ethiopian Airlines crash in connection to the software upgrade. However, the statement did express the company's condolences to the relatives of the 157 people who died — 18 of whom were Canadian.
The company said in the aftermath of October's Lion Air Flight crash it has for several months "been developing a flight control software enhancement for the 737 Max, designed to make an already safe aircraft even safer."
The software upgrade "will be deployed across the 737 Max fleet in the coming weeks," it said.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/boeing...ax-8-1.5052471
Firm says it's been developing 'enhancement' since fatal Lion Air crash in October
Boeing confirmed late on Monday it will deploy a software upgrade to the 737 Max 8 — the model that crashed on Sunday in Ethiopia and six months ago in Indonesia — a few hours after the Federal Aviation Administration said it would mandate "design changes" in the aircraft by April.
Boeing did not reference Sunday's Ethiopian Airlines crash in connection to the software upgrade. However, the statement did express the company's condolences to the relatives of the 157 people who died — 18 of whom were Canadian.
The company said in the aftermath of October's Lion Air Flight crash it has for several months "been developing a flight control software enhancement for the 737 Max, designed to make an already safe aircraft even safer."
The software upgrade "will be deployed across the 737 Max fleet in the coming weeks," it said.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/boeing...ax-8-1.5052471
Mar 12, 2019, 7:41 am
#1803
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Add the UK to the list of countries grounding this plane, Boeing: UK joins countries blocking aircraft - BBC News
The UK's Civil Aviation Authority has banned the Boeing 737 MAX from operating in or over UK airspace "as a precautionary measure".
The decision comes after an Ethiopian Airlines Boeing Max 8 crashed on Sunday, killing 157 people on board, the second fatal accident involving that model in less than five months
The UK joins Malaysia, Singapore, China and Australia, in banning the aircraft.
The CAA said the directive would remain in place until further notice.
Tui Airways and Norwegian both operate the Boeing Max 8 in the UK as part of their fleets.
"The UK Civil Aviation Authority has been closely monitoring the situation, however, as we do not currently have sufficient information from the flight data recorder we have, as a precautionary measure, issued instructions to stop any commercial passenger flights from any operator arriving, departing or overflying UK airspace," a CAA statement said.
The decision comes after an Ethiopian Airlines Boeing Max 8 crashed on Sunday, killing 157 people on board, the second fatal accident involving that model in less than five months
The UK joins Malaysia, Singapore, China and Australia, in banning the aircraft.
The CAA said the directive would remain in place until further notice.
Tui Airways and Norwegian both operate the Boeing Max 8 in the UK as part of their fleets.
"The UK Civil Aviation Authority has been closely monitoring the situation, however, as we do not currently have sufficient information from the flight data recorder we have, as a precautionary measure, issued instructions to stop any commercial passenger flights from any operator arriving, departing or overflying UK airspace," a CAA statement said.
Mar 12, 2019, 7:44 am
#1804
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Add the UK to the list of countries grounding this plane, Boeing: UK joins countries blocking aircraft - BBC News
Mar 12, 2019, 7:47 am
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Add the UK to the list of countries grounding this plane, Boeing: UK joins countries blocking aircraft - BBC News
At this point, AC execs would be foolish not to come up with plans to start shifting loads to other aircraft types. Whether the MAX is technically safe or not, public's confidence in this model is waning, and most will refuse to fly in them now.
Mar 12, 2019, 7:47 am
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Add the UK to the list of countries grounding this plane, Boeing: UK joins countries blocking aircraft - BBC News
Mar 12, 2019, 7:57 am
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Sorry if already posted upthread but I read that the FAA has given Boeing till April to implement a fix.
The FAA said in its notice on Monday that it expects to mandate design enhancements to the automated system and signaling on board the Boeing planes by April 2019. Boeing is planning to update training requirements and manuals along with those changes, the FAA said.
Boeing confirmed that it was planning to changes to flight-control software for the planes’ MCAS system and said the changes are “designed to make an already safe aircraft even safer.”
The FAA’s notice applied to both the Boeing 737 MAX 8 and the larger MAX 9 variant. There are 74 of these aircraft in U.S. fleets and 374 worldwide, the agency said.
The FAA said in its notice on Monday that it expects to mandate design enhancements to the automated system and signaling on board the Boeing planes by April 2019. Boeing is planning to update training requirements and manuals along with those changes, the FAA said.
Boeing confirmed that it was planning to changes to flight-control software for the planes’ MCAS system and said the changes are “designed to make an already safe aircraft even safer.”
The FAA’s notice applied to both the Boeing 737 MAX 8 and the larger MAX 9 variant. There are 74 of these aircraft in U.S. fleets and 374 worldwide, the agency said.
Last edited by vernonc; Mar 12, 2019 at 8:07 am
Mar 12, 2019, 8:00 am
#1811
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From Bloomberg:
Translation: guys, time to keep your mouth shut.
The Boeing Company CEO Dennis Muilenburg said in a message to employees that the company is “confident in the safety of the 737 Max and in the work of the men and women who design and build it.” Muilenburg added, “Speculating about the cause of the accident or discussing it without all the necessary facts is not appropriate and could compromise the integrity of the investigation.”
Mar 12, 2019, 8:01 am
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Mar 12, 2019, 8:03 am
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But eh, took one crash (TK in Paris) for the DC-10 to be grounded. And what about the 787 fires?
Mar 12, 2019, 8:14 am
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This new UK ban affects us in YYT and YHZ. If the aircraft was grounded in Canada, how would this affect AC operations? It seems like taking 24 a/c out of operation would cause operational chaos, even if it was only for a short time.