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Jan 18 2021 TC issues Airworthiness Directive for the 737 MAX
Link to post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32976892-post4096.html
Cabin photos
Post 976 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29534462-post976.html
Post 1300 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29780203-post1300.html
Cabin Layout
Interior Specs can be found here https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/fly/onboard/fleet.html
- Window seats may feel narrower to come as the armrests are placed "into" the "curvature" of the cabin.
- Seats with no windows feel even more narrower as there is no space created by the curvature of window.
- All bulkhead seats have very limited legroom.
- Seats 15A, 16A, 16F, 17A and 17F have limited windows.
- Exit rows 19 and 20 have more legroom than regular preferred seats.
Routes
The 737 MAX is designated to replace the A320-series. Based on announcements and schedule updates, the following specific routes will be operated by the 737 MAX in future:
YYZ-LAX (periodic flights)
YYZ-SNN (new route)
YUL-DUB (new route)
YYZ/YUL-KEF (replacing Rouge A319)
YYT-LHR (replacing Mainline A319)
YHZ-LHR (replacing Mainline B767)
Hawaii Routes YVR/YYC (replacing Rouge B767)
Many domestic trunk routes (YYZ, YVR, YUL, YYC) now operated by 7M8, replacing A320 family
Link to post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32976892-post4096.html
Cabin photos
Post 976 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29534462-post976.html
Post 1300 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29780203-post1300.html
Cabin Layout
Interior Specs can be found here https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/fly/onboard/fleet.html
- Window seats may feel narrower to come as the armrests are placed "into" the "curvature" of the cabin.
- Seats with no windows feel even more narrower as there is no space created by the curvature of window.
- All bulkhead seats have very limited legroom.
- Seats 15A, 16A, 16F, 17A and 17F have limited windows.
- Exit rows 19 and 20 have more legroom than regular preferred seats.
Routes
The 737 MAX is designated to replace the A320-series. Based on announcements and schedule updates, the following specific routes will be operated by the 737 MAX in future:
YYZ-LAX (periodic flights)
YYZ-SNN (new route)
YUL-DUB (new route)
YYZ/YUL-KEF (replacing Rouge A319)
YYT-LHR (replacing Mainline A319)
YHZ-LHR (replacing Mainline B767)
Hawaii Routes YVR/YYC (replacing Rouge B767)
Many domestic trunk routes (YYZ, YVR, YUL, YYC) now operated by 7M8, replacing A320 family
Air Canada Selects Boeing 737 MAX to Renew Mainline Narrowbody Fleet
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I'll join the camp that says they most certainly won't ground their fleet unless TC mandates it. And TC won't unless the FAA does so first. Tin hat aficionados might explore the relationship between the FAA and the Boeing Corporation.
I don't necessarily disagree with AC's decision at this early stage to keep the plane flying; there is simply no sure reason to tether them to the ground. Hopefully the investigators make some early determinations.
I don't necessarily disagree with AC's decision at this early stage to keep the plane flying; there is simply no sure reason to tether them to the ground. Hopefully the investigators make some early determinations.
I for one hope AC grounds the plane, mostly bc I'll be flying on the MAX on April 4th.
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Boeing to update software in model of plane involved in Ethiopian crash
Firm says it's been developing 'enhancement' since fatal Lion Air crash in October
Boeing confirmed late on Monday it will deploy a software upgrade to the 737 Max 8 the model that crashed on Sunday in Ethiopia and six months ago in Indonesia a few hours after the Federal Aviation Administration said it would mandate "design changes" in the aircraft by April.
Boeing did not reference Sunday's Ethiopian Airlines crash in connection to the software upgrade. However, the statement did express the company's condolences to the relatives of the 157 people who died 18 of whom were Canadian.
The company said in the aftermath of October's Lion Air Flight crash it has for several months "been developing a flight control software enhancement for the 737 Max, designed to make an already safe aircraft even safer."
The software upgrade "will be deployed across the 737 Max fleet in the coming weeks," it said.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/boeing...ax-8-1.5052471
Firm says it's been developing 'enhancement' since fatal Lion Air crash in October
Boeing confirmed late on Monday it will deploy a software upgrade to the 737 Max 8 the model that crashed on Sunday in Ethiopia and six months ago in Indonesia a few hours after the Federal Aviation Administration said it would mandate "design changes" in the aircraft by April.
Boeing did not reference Sunday's Ethiopian Airlines crash in connection to the software upgrade. However, the statement did express the company's condolences to the relatives of the 157 people who died 18 of whom were Canadian.
The company said in the aftermath of October's Lion Air Flight crash it has for several months "been developing a flight control software enhancement for the 737 Max, designed to make an already safe aircraft even safer."
The software upgrade "will be deployed across the 737 Max fleet in the coming weeks," it said.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/boeing...ax-8-1.5052471
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Ethiopian plane smoked and shuddered before deadly plunge
I have no upcoming flights on a 737MAX8, but am following the story intently. It is great to have a forum like this where interested people can have a lively and respectful debate. Thanks to everyone!
My question, what do you guys make of the following:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN1QS1LJ
I keep hearing about MCAS or some software malfunction, but how would this cause smoking from the tail of the plane? (I suppose it is possible that the eyewitness accounts have it wrong and there really was no smoking, but there were multiple witnesses...).
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My question, what do you guys make of the following:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN1QS1LJ
I keep hearing about MCAS or some software malfunction, but how would this cause smoking from the tail of the plane? (I suppose it is possible that the eyewitness accounts have it wrong and there really was no smoking, but there were multiple witnesses...).
Foftravel
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I have no upcoming flights on a 737MAX8, but am following the story intently. It is great to have a forum like this where interested people can have a lively and respectful debate. Thanks to everyone!
My question, what do you guys make of the following:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN1QS1LJ
I keep hearing about MCAS or some software malfunction, but how would this cause smoking from the tail of the plane? (I suppose it is possible that the eyewitness accounts have it wrong and there really was no smoking, but there were multiple witnesses...).
Foftravel
My question, what do you guys make of the following:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN1QS1LJ
I keep hearing about MCAS or some software malfunction, but how would this cause smoking from the tail of the plane? (I suppose it is possible that the eyewitness accounts have it wrong and there really was no smoking, but there were multiple witnesses...).
Foftravel
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https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ries-grounding
Counties that have grounded and banned the 737 MAX 8:
China, Indonesia, Singapore, South Korea, Mongolia, Australia, Malaysia, UK
Airlines that have grounded the 737 MAX 8:
Ethiopian Airlines, Comair, Aeromxico, Cayman Airways, Gol Airlines, Jet Airways, Royal Air Maroc, Easter Jet, Aerolineas Argentina
Counties that have grounded and banned the 737 MAX 8:
China, Indonesia, Singapore, South Korea, Mongolia, Australia, Malaysia, UK
Airlines that have grounded the 737 MAX 8:
Ethiopian Airlines, Comair, Aeromxico, Cayman Airways, Gol Airlines, Jet Airways, Royal Air Maroc, Easter Jet, Aerolineas Argentina
Last edited by jsfrSE; Mar 12, 2019 at 7:51 am
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From BBC: Singapore and Australia's aviation authorities have temporarily banned Boeing 737 Max aircraft from flying into and out of their countries.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47536502
But hey, it must be illogical to try to avoid the MAX. On the off chance there's an equipment swap. (Even in June, notwithstanding that more of the flights are on the 737 MAX, there are options YYZ - YVR, if one is flexible.)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47536502
But hey, it must be illogical to try to avoid the MAX. On the off chance there's an equipment swap. (Even in June, notwithstanding that more of the flights are on the 737 MAX, there are options YYZ - YVR, if one is flexible.)
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I see jsfrSE beat me to this. Sorry, reading on phone, missed it. Note that those countries listed - Australia, Signapore, etc. - don't even want to see the plane in their airspace.
Heading to the airport to catch my 777 YYZ - YVR. But maybe it will be swapped for a 737 MAX.
Heading to the airport to catch my 777 YYZ - YVR. But maybe it will be swapped for a 737 MAX.