Sep 19, 2017, 10:25 am
Last edit by: 24left
Jan 18 2021 TC issues Airworthiness Directive for the 737 MAX
Link to post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32976892-post4096.html
Cabin photos
Post 976 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29534462-post976.html
Post 1300 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29780203-post1300.html
Cabin Layout
Interior Specs can be found here https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/fly/onboard/fleet.html
- Window seats may feel narrower to come as the armrests are placed "into" the "curvature" of the cabin.
- Seats with no windows feel even more narrower as there is no space created by the curvature of window.
- All bulkhead seats have very limited legroom.
- Seats 15A, 16A, 16F, 17A and 17F have limited windows.
- Exit rows 19 and 20 have more legroom than regular preferred seats.
Routes
The 737 MAX is designated to replace the A320-series. Based on announcements and schedule updates, the following specific routes will be operated by the 737 MAX in future:
YYZ-LAX (periodic flights)
YYZ-SNN (new route)
YUL-DUB (new route)
YYZ/YUL-KEF (replacing Rouge A319)
YYT-LHR (replacing Mainline A319)
YHZ-LHR (replacing Mainline B767)
Hawaii Routes YVR/YYC (replacing Rouge B767)
Many domestic trunk routes (YYZ, YVR, YUL, YYC) now operated by 7M8, replacing A320 family
Link to post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32976892-post4096.html
Cabin photos
Post 976 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29534462-post976.html
Post 1300 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29780203-post1300.html
Cabin Layout
Interior Specs can be found here https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/fly/onboard/fleet.html
- Window seats may feel narrower to come as the armrests are placed "into" the "curvature" of the cabin.
- Seats with no windows feel even more narrower as there is no space created by the curvature of window.
- All bulkhead seats have very limited legroom.
- Seats 15A, 16A, 16F, 17A and 17F have limited windows.
- Exit rows 19 and 20 have more legroom than regular preferred seats.
Routes
The 737 MAX is designated to replace the A320-series. Based on announcements and schedule updates, the following specific routes will be operated by the 737 MAX in future:
YYZ-LAX (periodic flights)
YYZ-SNN (new route)
YUL-DUB (new route)
YYZ/YUL-KEF (replacing Rouge A319)
YYT-LHR (replacing Mainline A319)
YHZ-LHR (replacing Mainline B767)
Hawaii Routes YVR/YYC (replacing Rouge B767)
Many domestic trunk routes (YYZ, YVR, YUL, YYC) now operated by 7M8, replacing A320 family
Air Canada Selects Boeing 737 MAX to Renew Mainline Narrowbody Fleet
Nov 2, 2017, 7:55 pm
#646
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Ugh. At 30 inches seat pitch, I'd be willing to consider an hour or maybe even two, but that's about it. I think the novelty of this aircraft will soon wear off, even for those in J. It wasn't procured for passenger benefit.
Speaking of novelty, wet coasters can take some photos of the new pudgy raccoon from YVR's domestic MLL tmrw morning, as they undergo gate fit tests just outside the window, at Gate 50. It should arrive shortly before 0900.
Speaking of novelty, wet coasters can take some photos of the new pudgy raccoon from YVR's domestic MLL tmrw morning, as they undergo gate fit tests just outside the window, at Gate 50. It should arrive shortly before 0900.
Thanks for the heads up- that will be a good view to see it in person, I still can't decide if I like the look or not.
Nov 2, 2017, 8:01 pm
#647
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Nov 3, 2017, 5:26 am
#648
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expansion of Rouge fleet?
A report in the Nov 2 G&M says AC is expanding its Rouge fleet (beyond 50 aircraft, 25 narrow body) with its new CALPA contract. (NB the report is behind a paywall, FYI):
https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/rep...beandmail.com&
The expansion is limited by the # of aircraft added to the mainline fleet on a 1:1 ratio i.e. two 737 Max = 2 more Rouge aircraft. It also suggests the expansion of the Rouge fleet will involve aging A 319/320s.
How many years of airworthiness are left in the A 319/320s? SFO?
https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/rep...beandmail.com&
The expansion is limited by the # of aircraft added to the mainline fleet on a 1:1 ratio i.e. two 737 Max = 2 more Rouge aircraft. It also suggests the expansion of the Rouge fleet will involve aging A 319/320s.
How many years of airworthiness are left in the A 319/320s? SFO?
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Nov 3, 2017, 6:23 am
#650
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Nov 3, 2017, 6:27 am
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As with all new deliveries it's protective plastic until the aircraft is pressed into revenue service. Most notable visible changes: Y seats are mono-coloured as opposed to patterned (unsure whether they are leather or fabric) & Thales current state-of-the-art IFE system has been selected.
Nov 3, 2017, 6:46 am
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A report in the Nov 2 G&M says AC is expanding its Rouge fleet (beyond 50 aircraft, 25 narrow body) with its new CALPA contract. (NB the report is behind a paywall, FYI):
https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/rep...beandmail.com&
The expansion is limited by the # of aircraft added to the mainline fleet on a 1:1 ratio i.e. two 737 Max = 2 more Rouge aircraft. It also suggests the expansion of the Rouge fleet will involve aging A 319/320s.
How many years of airworthiness are left in the A 319/320s? SFO?
https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/rep...beandmail.com&
The expansion is limited by the # of aircraft added to the mainline fleet on a 1:1 ratio i.e. two 737 Max = 2 more Rouge aircraft. It also suggests the expansion of the Rouge fleet will involve aging A 319/320s.
How many years of airworthiness are left in the A 319/320s? SFO?
The oldest craft is ms 059 | C-FDQQ | fin 201 which is 28.0 Years old
The newest craft is ms 2145 | C-FZQS | fin 240 which is 14.0 Years old
of all the A320s, C-FDQQ is the 6th oldest active A320 in operation globally.
The mainline A319 average age is 19.8 years
The oldest mainline craft is ms 562 | C-GBIP | fin 285 which is 22.2 Years old
The newest mainline craft is ms 1577 | C-GITR | fin 287 which is 16.6 Years old
Rouge A319 average age is 19.5 years
The oldest craft is ms 572 | C-FNYS | fin 251 which is 22.0 Years old
The newest craft is ms 1853 | C-GKOB fin 296 which is 15.0 Years old
Nov 3, 2017, 7:58 am
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Nov 3, 2017, 9:00 am
#655
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We can expand upon this in another thread, but there aren't links between the concept of "airworthiness", a specific aircraft type/avionics suite and the pair of incidents in SFO. It's entirely possible the same errors could have been committed in a brand new 737Max.
Nov 3, 2017, 9:32 am
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I do agree with you about the tight seat pitch, but it's always a bit of fun flying on new craft before the new plane smell wears off and a layer of filth is deposited on the cabin.
Thanks for the heads up- that will be a good view to see it in person, I still can't decide if I like the look or not.
Thanks for the heads up- that will be a good view to see it in person, I still can't decide if I like the look or not.
Nov 3, 2017, 9:45 am
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Nov 3, 2017, 1:21 pm
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Nov 4, 2017, 7:50 am
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I'm really impressed with how AC has taken cabin design seriously since the 787s - the bulkheads, materials and style all really complement each other, which is a nice change from the solid blue of the XM cabins!