Sep 19, 2017, 10:25 am
Last edit by: 24left
Jan 18 2021 TC issues Airworthiness Directive for the 737 MAX
Link to post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32976892-post4096.html
Cabin photos
Post 976 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29534462-post976.html
Post 1300 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29780203-post1300.html
Cabin Layout
Interior Specs can be found here https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/fly/onboard/fleet.html
- Window seats may feel narrower to come as the armrests are placed "into" the "curvature" of the cabin.
- Seats with no windows feel even more narrower as there is no space created by the curvature of window.
- All bulkhead seats have very limited legroom.
- Seats 15A, 16A, 16F, 17A and 17F have limited windows.
- Exit rows 19 and 20 have more legroom than regular preferred seats.
Routes
The 737 MAX is designated to replace the A320-series. Based on announcements and schedule updates, the following specific routes will be operated by the 737 MAX in future:
YYZ-LAX (periodic flights)
YYZ-SNN (new route)
YUL-DUB (new route)
YYZ/YUL-KEF (replacing Rouge A319)
YYT-LHR (replacing Mainline A319)
YHZ-LHR (replacing Mainline B767)
Hawaii Routes YVR/YYC (replacing Rouge B767)
Many domestic trunk routes (YYZ, YVR, YUL, YYC) now operated by 7M8, replacing A320 family
Link to post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32976892-post4096.html
Cabin photos
Post 976 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29534462-post976.html
Post 1300 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29780203-post1300.html
Cabin Layout
Interior Specs can be found here https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/fly/onboard/fleet.html
- Window seats may feel narrower to come as the armrests are placed "into" the "curvature" of the cabin.
- Seats with no windows feel even more narrower as there is no space created by the curvature of window.
- All bulkhead seats have very limited legroom.
- Seats 15A, 16A, 16F, 17A and 17F have limited windows.
- Exit rows 19 and 20 have more legroom than regular preferred seats.
Routes
The 737 MAX is designated to replace the A320-series. Based on announcements and schedule updates, the following specific routes will be operated by the 737 MAX in future:
YYZ-LAX (periodic flights)
YYZ-SNN (new route)
YUL-DUB (new route)
YYZ/YUL-KEF (replacing Rouge A319)
YYT-LHR (replacing Mainline A319)
YHZ-LHR (replacing Mainline B767)
Hawaii Routes YVR/YYC (replacing Rouge B767)
Many domestic trunk routes (YYZ, YVR, YUL, YYC) now operated by 7M8, replacing A320 family
Air Canada Selects Boeing 737 MAX to Renew Mainline Narrowbody Fleet
Sep 19, 2017, 12:41 pm
#497
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Halifax
Programs: AC SE100K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum Elite. NEXUS
Posts: 4,568
No, I think that AC assumes that a lot of people choose exclusively on price and lack the interest, ability and inclination to check things like "comfort". 1 in 100,000 will complain about the service to CBC later because they last flew in 1983 and still have their silverware they stole.
Sep 19, 2017, 1:19 pm
#498
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: New York
Posts: 7,347
Will AC still label the premium cabin as "business class" for the flights to Ireland, or will they just adjust the pricing for those special transatlantic flights to Ireland? The seats remind me more of their current "premium economy" seats on its 787s.
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Carfield
Sep 19, 2017, 1:23 pm
#499
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: TK *G
Posts: 3,099
The YYT-LHR A319 flight offers "business class", so I guess it will be the same for 737s.
Sep 19, 2017, 3:21 pm
#500
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Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: AC
Posts: 2,167
Wow. 30" pitch in Y. That's below my minimum. Might as well be Rouge.
When the 7M8 comes up for any flight I want I guess I'll be price comparing AC preferred seats to regular Y on WS or Porter. As a bottom feeder type traveler, I choose the cheapest acceptable seat. 30" pitch is not acceptable, so it won't be considered by me.
I find it interesting that about a third of Y seats are preferred. AC must assume that a lot of people will want to buy a bit of extra legroom. I wish they specified how much extra pitch the preferred seats get.
When the 7M8 comes up for any flight I want I guess I'll be price comparing AC preferred seats to regular Y on WS or Porter. As a bottom feeder type traveler, I choose the cheapest acceptable seat. 30" pitch is not acceptable, so it won't be considered by me.
I find it interesting that about a third of Y seats are preferred. AC must assume that a lot of people will want to buy a bit of extra legroom. I wish they specified how much extra pitch the preferred seats get.
Sep 19, 2017, 3:26 pm
#501
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YVR/YYC
Programs: AC E50K
Posts: 174
Wow. 30" pitch in Y. That's below my minimum. Might as well be Rouge.
When the 7M8 comes up for any flight I want I guess I'll be price comparing AC preferred seats to regular Y on WS or Porter. As a bottom feeder type traveler, I choose the cheapest acceptable seat. 30" pitch is not acceptable, so it won't be considered by me.
I find it interesting that about a third of Y seats are preferred. AC must assume that a lot of people will want to buy a bit of extra legroom. I wish they specified how much extra pitch the preferred seats get.
When the 7M8 comes up for any flight I want I guess I'll be price comparing AC preferred seats to regular Y on WS or Porter. As a bottom feeder type traveler, I choose the cheapest acceptable seat. 30" pitch is not acceptable, so it won't be considered by me.
I find it interesting that about a third of Y seats are preferred. AC must assume that a lot of people will want to buy a bit of extra legroom. I wish they specified how much extra pitch the preferred seats get.
WestJet is also moving to 30".
At this point I'm just happy it is not 29" and still has AVOD
Last edited by newcdn; Sep 19, 2017 at 3:42 pm
Sep 19, 2017, 3:36 pm
#502
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: YVR
Programs: Bottom feeder Star Gold
Posts: 2,652
Amazing how the flying public has either capitulated to the reduced seat pitch movement, or opened their wallets to escape it. 32" was the economy norm, and 34" in some aircraft was also standard, yet here we are thankful for 30" and paying extra on some airlines for economy plus at 35" - a mere inch over what used to be the free norm on an Embraer.
I'm looking forward to seeing a new 737 Max in bandit livery, but am in no rush to fly aboard one, thanks.
I'm looking forward to seeing a new 737 Max in bandit livery, but am in no rush to fly aboard one, thanks.
Sep 19, 2017, 3:40 pm
#503
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YVR/YYC
Programs: AC E50K
Posts: 174
Amazing how the flying public has either capitulated to the reduced seat pitch movement, or opened their wallets to escape it. 32" was the economy norm, and 34" in some aircraft was also standard, yet here we are thankful for 30" and paying extra on some airlines for economy plus at 35" - a mere inch over what used to be the free norm on an Embraer.
I'm looking forward to seeing a new 737 Max in bandit livery, but am in no rush to fly aboard one, thanks.
I'm looking forward to seeing a new 737 Max in bandit livery, but am in no rush to fly aboard one, thanks.
People won't be able to avoid 30" pitch on domestic/US routes in a few years, but maybe with the slimline seats it won't be as bad
Sep 19, 2017, 4:24 pm
#505
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YVR/YYC
Programs: AC E50K
Posts: 174
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Un..._737-800_G.php
Sep 19, 2017, 6:54 pm
#507
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,361
Amazing how the flying public has either capitulated to the reduced seat pitch movement, or opened their wallets to escape it. 32" was the economy norm, and 34" in some aircraft was also standard, yet here we are thankful for 30" and paying extra on some airlines for economy plus at 35" - a mere inch over what used to be the free norm on an Embraer.
I'm looking forward to seeing a new 737 Max in bandit livery, but am in no rush to fly aboard one, thanks.
I'm looking forward to seeing a new 737 Max in bandit livery, but am in no rush to fly aboard one, thanks.
Sep 19, 2017, 6:58 pm
#508
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,361
Many legacy European airlines have had 30" pitch on their narrow body aircraft far before NA airlines did. Even in J.
Sep 19, 2017, 9:36 pm
#509
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,324
"Pitch" is not a measurement of "knee room" or "leg room". It has a very specific technical definition.
When comparing identical seats, more pitch means more leg room, but if the seats are not identical, it means nothing.
Sep 19, 2017, 9:55 pm
#510
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Delta, BC
Posts: 1,646
I hope it means something as my legs have a definite physical geometry even if seat backs decrease to 0 thickness.