Dec 25, 2014, 12:13 pm
Last edit by: briguychau
*FAQ:
Q: On the 787-9 (789), which seats in J are missing windows?
A: Rows 5 and 8 on both port and starboard sides have only one window, instead of two on all other port/starboard J seats.
Q: On the 787-8 (788), which seats in J are missing windows?
A: Only row 5 port and starboard sides have zero windows.
Q: Does the middle J seats' middle divider come down?
A: No, on the 788 and 789 the middle divider does not come down and is fixed in place. In fact, all Dream Cabin (788, 789, 77L, 77W) middle dividers are fixed and do not come down.
Member pictures & videos of AC 787:
Trip review with pictures from galawdawg:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23555730-post1724.html
pictures from TravellingBeard
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24068136-post2054.html
Onboard videos from cooleddie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBND...ature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvVH...ature=youtu.be
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24182736-post2123.html
Video trip report, J-class, YYZ-YVR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRKfq6KEles
3 Class Video review of AC's Dreamliner with Pilot and SD interview
https://youtu.be/5N4_bIEut6I
Trip review with pictures from FlyerJT:
http://thepointsguy.com/2015/08/air-canada-787-economy-review/
In depth video review of AC's 787-8 Dreamliner International Business Class
https://youtu.be/X8u1jvjk_3w
Q: On the 787-9 (789), which seats in J are missing windows?
A: Rows 5 and 8 on both port and starboard sides have only one window, instead of two on all other port/starboard J seats.
Q: On the 787-8 (788), which seats in J are missing windows?
A: Only row 5 port and starboard sides have zero windows.
Q: Does the middle J seats' middle divider come down?
A: No, on the 788 and 789 the middle divider does not come down and is fixed in place. In fact, all Dream Cabin (788, 789, 77L, 77W) middle dividers are fixed and do not come down.
Member pictures & videos of AC 787:
Trip review with pictures from galawdawg:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23555730-post1724.html
pictures from TravellingBeard
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24068136-post2054.html
Onboard videos from cooleddie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBND...ature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvVH...ature=youtu.be
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24182736-post2123.html
Video trip report, J-class, YYZ-YVR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRKfq6KEles
3 Class Video review of AC's Dreamliner with Pilot and SD interview
https://youtu.be/5N4_bIEut6I
Trip review with pictures from FlyerJT:
http://thepointsguy.com/2015/08/air-canada-787-economy-review/
In depth video review of AC's 787-8 Dreamliner International Business Class
https://youtu.be/X8u1jvjk_3w
The Air Canada 787-8/-9 Dreamliner Discussion Thread
Dec 4, 2013, 12:31 pm
#93
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YSB & YAM, Northern Ontario, Canada
Programs: Aeroplan, IHG Gold Elite, Marriott Rewards
Posts: 1,100
787s to replace 767s to NRT?
So LHR and ZRH get first taste, just a nibble at ACs 787, but then TLV gets the whole cake in July? Weird!
When will the 767s be replaced on AC9/10 YYC-NRT-YYC I wonder?
Not sure about the 17.3" width x 31" pitch in Y but PE sure looks attractive but a bit pricey for leisure travellers!
When will the 767s be replaced on AC9/10 YYC-NRT-YYC I wonder?
Not sure about the 17.3" width x 31" pitch in Y but PE sure looks attractive but a bit pricey for leisure travellers!
Dec 4, 2013, 12:39 pm
#94
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 2,379
Feel free to be offended - personal space on slave ships was 6 feet long by 16 inches wide, for people that were a lot skinnier than we are. We get a full extra inch of width, and a lot less length.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookes_(ship)
This is not to say that slave ships were comfortable. To the contrary, it is to point out how uncomfortable modern economy class is. With the padding essentially gone from the seats, you are not that far from sitting on a wooden plank either
You can have my TV and hot meal any day. I want my space (and my bathroom, of which there aren't many in the sardine cans either).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookes_(ship)
This is not to say that slave ships were comfortable. To the contrary, it is to point out how uncomfortable modern economy class is. With the padding essentially gone from the seats, you are not that far from sitting on a wooden plank either
You can have my TV and hot meal any day. I want my space (and my bathroom, of which there aren't many in the sardine cans either).
Not to mention that they were confined to that space for up to 2 months, not a few hours. While I don't necessarily agree with the person calling it offensive (it's just ignorance in my view), your ridiculous analogy actually shows how comfortable modern airline travel is. And if you read that wikipedia article properly you'd see that those minimum requirements weren't necessarily provided. Not that it really makes a difference if you think 2 months on a 6ftx16" wooden floor is remotely comparable to a fraction of a day sat in a (albeit lightly) padded reclining chair.
Dec 4, 2013, 12:39 pm
#95
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 309
We're on ZRH-YYZ in early/mid Sept 2014 biz class ticketed award that's fully ticketed.
With the current 767 being J24 and the 788 going J20, what happens if YYZ-ZRH gets extended beyond July? Would they pull the award out from under us or are we safe as it's properly ticketed?
lots of ifs here, but wanting to be proactive...
With the current 767 being J24 and the 788 going J20, what happens if YYZ-ZRH gets extended beyond July? Would they pull the award out from under us or are we safe as it's properly ticketed?
lots of ifs here, but wanting to be proactive...
Dec 4, 2013, 12:44 pm
#96
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: YYC
Posts: 4,035
We're on ZRH-YYZ in early/mid Sept 2014 biz class ticketed award that's fully ticketed.
With the current 767 being J24 and the 788 going J20, what happens if YYZ-ZRH gets extended beyond July? Would they pull the award out from under us or are we safe as it's properly ticketed?
lots of ifs here, but wanting to be proactive...
With the current 767 being J24 and the 788 going J20, what happens if YYZ-ZRH gets extended beyond July? Would they pull the award out from under us or are we safe as it's properly ticketed?
lots of ifs here, but wanting to be proactive...
Dec 4, 2013, 12:49 pm
#97
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: YYC
Posts: 4,035
Haven't seen the seat map linked here, so for those interested:
Dec 4, 2013, 12:52 pm
#98
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Left
Programs: FT
Posts: 7,285
Dec 4, 2013, 12:53 pm
#99
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Left
Programs: FT
Posts: 7,285
looks like J will share lavatories with PE. [that is unless PE gets two lavatories for 21 pax and J only gets 1 for 20]
Last edited by mkjr; Dec 4, 2013 at 12:59 pm
Dec 4, 2013, 12:59 pm
#100
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: NYC, YYZ
Programs: AC SE100K, SPG Gold, UA MP
Posts: 1,002
Wow, with the 3-3-3 config, not many lavatories for the the Y cabin! Hold your bladders folks!
Dec 4, 2013, 1:01 pm
#101
Join Date: Jun 2009
Programs: Air Canada Aeroplan
Posts: 1,748
I would love to see you say that after actually sitting on a wooden plank for 8 hours...
Not to mention that they were confined to that space for up to 2 months, not a few hours. While I don't necessarily agree with the person calling it offensive (it's just ignorance in my view), your ridiculous analogy actually shows how comfortable modern airline travel is. And if you read that wikipedia article properly you'd see that those minimum requirements weren't necessarily provided. Not that it really makes a difference if you think 2 months on a 6ftx16" wooden floor is remotely comparable to a fraction of a day sat in a (albeit lightly) padded reclining chair.
Not to mention that they were confined to that space for up to 2 months, not a few hours. While I don't necessarily agree with the person calling it offensive (it's just ignorance in my view), your ridiculous analogy actually shows how comfortable modern airline travel is. And if you read that wikipedia article properly you'd see that those minimum requirements weren't necessarily provided. Not that it really makes a difference if you think 2 months on a 6ftx16" wooden floor is remotely comparable to a fraction of a day sat in a (albeit lightly) padded reclining chair.
Dec 4, 2013, 1:02 pm
#102
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: YYZ most of the time
Programs: AC SE100K MM, Princess Elite
Posts: 3,921
Dec 4, 2013, 1:08 pm
#103
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: NYC, YYZ
Programs: AC SE100K, SPG Gold, UA MP
Posts: 1,002
Funny to see that the Z fare on ZRH-YYZ-LGA on AC via 788 ($4000) is almost 2X as expensive as ZRH-YUL-LGA on LX ($2200), and LX has a superior product than even the new AC 788. AC is really pricing itself out on this routing from the US.
Dec 4, 2013, 1:13 pm
#104
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: NYC, YYZ
Programs: AC SE100K, SPG Gold, UA MP
Posts: 1,002
And it looks like Latitude fare costs fewer eUp credits (6 credits) to upgrade to J than Premium economy (8 credits) for YYZ-LHR OW, while Latitude costs $100 less.
Dec 4, 2013, 1:18 pm
#105
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: FRA
Programs: AC SE 1MM, UA 1K, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, Marriott Gold Elite, Hertz PC
Posts: 2,935
The price ex FRA is identical, you can simply route through ZRH.