Cana2013

Good to know. Next year if I can't keep my HH gold, I will spend the $49.95 to get it.

yerffej201

your two statements don't make sense. true, spg does offer fifth night free, but so does hilton (with their stupid devaluation): http://hhonors3.hilton.com/en/promot...e-example.html

Afaik spg offers the worse return on HOTEL spend, given that with hyatt, marriott, IHG, and Hilton, both require lower levels of spend for hotel cats. just off the top of my head: 30k top tier cat 7 park hyatt (paris/tokyo/sydney/etc.) @ 5pts per dollar on hyatt base sped = 6k hotel spend. 20k cat 6 fairly top tier spend @ 2pts per dollar on spg base spend = 10k hotel spend.

yeah, in most cases spg plat > hh diamond.

correct. hh gold > spg gold, imo

Cana2013

I was talking about earning points for stays then spend the points for free nights. This nice hotel only needs 3000 SPG points for a weekend free night:

http://www.starwoodhotels.com/prefer...ropertyID=3088

yerffej201

That's exactly what I'm referring to. In nearly all cases, SPG is the WORST chain to earn points for paid stays then spending the points for free nights. As I was trying to say earlier, you earn 2 points per dollar of spend on SPG hotels vs. for example 15 points per dollar of spend on Hiltons.

That's why your statement doesn't make sense (and what I was referring to in my previous post):
So for your 3k points hotel, that requires $1500 in base spend on hotel stays with SPG. With Hilton Points & Points, you earn 15points/$ on base spend on hotel stays. Category 1 with Hilton is 5k points = $333.33 of base spend. Category 2, 3, and 4 (~20k points per night) all require less than $1500 in base spend.

If we compare JUST how close you are to a free night from base hotel spend, SPG loses nearly all the time.

flyquiet

For the internet access, breakfast, and small room upgrade, gold is worth $50/year to me.
I need to find out more about that when my current gold expires.
My travel either requires a specific "indy" hotel, or Hilton properties are convenient and optimal.

yerffej201

http://milepoint.com/premium/p2/
You can value the benefits of Gold status at more than $50, but I can't understand how you value Gold status at $50 when it's sold for less than that. (of course it's sold out now)

Ancien Maestro

Too bad its sold out.. but reading the HH Gold benefits, I thought it came with breakfast and preferred room. Perhaps it does, but its not on the Milepoint description.

Any word, when they'll have more packages available?

yerffej201

next year, but then the packgae will be different i think. hh gold does get you breakfast and preferred room. just not mentioned in the mp package.

xLuther

HH gold , room upgrade, free breakfast & WiFi, couple of free bottles of water and depending on property/room upgrade Exec floor access. Always positive at front desk thanking me as a gold and making sure I am happy.

I've had some spectacular upgrades this past year.

If it can be gotten for $50 it's a steal, I have earned it every year

SPG gold was free with Amex Platinum and is lame, free drink or WiFi you have choose, room upgrade well hard to tell, never seems like an upgrade.

mikeycanuk

Not really into hotels so I can't compare programs. But 2yrs ago we used our SPG points for a business suite in the Ottawa Weston over a summer long weekend. The hotel was full and our suite was sweeeeet. No blackouts, nothing. That was very nice! Shame the King Eddy left SPG so all our points got converted to Aeroplan.

yscleo

I thought this is a thread about TD aeropeso card, but it sounds more like some people arguing about hotel programs.

Anyway, this is a special time everyone should apply to both td and cibc aeropeso cards, get the FYF and the bonus points.

The question is when all those people come to renewal time and people don't renew without fee waiver, how many customers will td and cibc lose.

1Newflyer

Less than you think. People do not change much just more of the same. Points seekers are rare compared to the number of card holds. Both banks will do well.
But then this thread is about "TD aeropeso card".

xLuther

FYI the card in question has both current and past hotel programs as part of the benefits as well ongoing hotel offers.

Braindrain

Everyone can argue until the cows come home about which hotel program they think is the best. However, the best hotel program is the one that fits your needs. All other comparative variables are irrelevant.

This is the Air Canada forum. You can leave the Hilton/Starwood arguing to those respective boards.

HerpaYvr

I received my co0nfirmation that I was sold to TD like a well aged AAA grade piece of meat!

I hope TD makes this card available as part of their banking package so I can have it for FREE ^