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sweden05 Aug 7, 2013 7:40 pm

Choosing to avoid AC on TPAC again...
 
Just about to book YOW-TPE flights for myself and 5 colleagues.

AC prices via HKG then connection on CX:
  • $2048 for Tango, 50% status miles, not upgradeable, 32" seat pitch
  • $3465 for Flex, 100% status miles, upgradeable if lucky, 32" seat pitch otherwise

Eva Air prices (with YOW-YYZ connections on AC):
  • $1650 for Economy, 80% AC status miles, 33" seat pitch, not upgradeable
  • $2263 for Elite/Evergreen Deluxe class, 100% AC status, miles, 38" seat pitch

Both the Eva options are more attractive. We're booking six tickets on Eva, Elite Evergreen. That's at least $12K AC won't get. And no we didn't need AC's premium economy. We would have booked AC if it was 100% status and upgradeable. Oh well.

Dorian Aug 7, 2013 7:49 pm

You should talk to a travel agent specializing in Asia and/or consolidator fares.

hydrogen Aug 7, 2013 7:53 pm

How far in advance did you book?

sweden05 Aug 7, 2013 7:58 pm


Originally Posted by Dorian (Post 21233859)
You should talk to a travel agent specializing in Asia and/or consolidator fares.

Will that help us get Flex AC fares for considerably less? Or just cheaper Tango? (Or cheaper Eva...)

Our corporate travel is all done via Carlson. Thanks for the comment...

sweden05 Aug 7, 2013 7:59 pm


Originally Posted by hydrogen (Post 21233877)
How far in advance did you book?

Booking is for mid September, so a bit over a month in advance.

Dorian Aug 7, 2013 8:01 pm


Originally Posted by sweden05 (Post 21233895)
Will that help us get Flex AC fares for considerably less? Or just cheaper Tango? (Or cheaper Eva...)

Our corporate travel is all done via Carlson. Thanks for the comment...

My TA that has agreements with 22 airlines always has a lower fare, for the same fare class.

I just booked YVR PVG YYZ YOW YVR, travel completed over 7 days. She got me in Z for $350 less than any Z I could find.

sweden05 Aug 7, 2013 8:03 pm


Originally Posted by Dorian (Post 21233910)
My TA that has agreements with 22 airlines always has a lower fare, for the same fare class.

Ok, that makes sense. The fare comparisons I was listing were from Carlson.

hydrogen Aug 7, 2013 8:10 pm


Originally Posted by Dorian (Post 21233910)
My TA that has agreements with 22 airlines always has a lower fare, for the same fare class.

I just booked YVR PVG YYZ YOW YVR, travel completed over 7 days. She got me in Z for $350 less than any Z I could find.

Return as PVG-YYZ-YOW-YVR? Ouch. Painful.



Originally Posted by sweden05 (Post 21233896)
Booking is for mid September, so a bit over a month in advance.

If load is high, AC probably doesn't care if you're not paying the Flex surcharge. Bums will still fill the seat.

painintheuk Aug 7, 2013 8:16 pm


Originally Posted by hydrogen (Post 21233932)
Return as PVG-YYZ-YOW-YVR? Ouch. Painful..

I am likely going to choose BR as well for similar reasons (though I am having some problems booking at the moment), but that is a nice MR if it is really that much cheaper :).

How does one find these discount Asia consolidators? Does one still get the same EQM? I decided on PE on BR (on AC.com, booking YYJ-SIN, PE doesn't even come up. If I booked it to HKG I would be in Y for the HKG-SIN segment and it would still be several hundred more than BR), but even with $350 off, Z is going to be too expensive for me, I think :(.

Dr. PITUK

jarusoba Aug 7, 2013 8:34 pm


Originally Posted by hydrogen (Post 21233932)
Return as PVG-YYZ-YOW-YVR? Ouch. Painful.

Based on his earlier posts in this forum, I'm sure Dorian would not fly any such convoluted routing if he is not going to do some business en route in YYZ or YOW. I know I wouldn't.

Dorian Aug 7, 2013 8:38 pm


Originally Posted by hydrogen (Post 21233932)
Return as PVG-YYZ-YOW-YVR? Ouch. Painful.


Have a gov't meeting in YOW....no choice.

Dorian Aug 7, 2013 8:39 pm


Originally Posted by jarusoba (Post 21234033)
Based on his earlier posts in this forum, I'm sure Dorian would not fly any such convoluted routing if he is not going to do some business en route in YYZ or YOW. I know I wouldn't.

Ha! Exactly.

Dorian Aug 7, 2013 8:46 pm


Originally Posted by painintheuk (Post 21233956)
I am likely going to choose BR as well for similar reasons (though I am having some problems booking at the moment), but that is a nice MR if it is really that much cheaper :).

How does one find these discount Asia consolidators? Does one still get the same EQM? I decided on PE on BR (on AC.com, booking YYJ-SIN, PE doesn't even come up. If I booked it to HKG I would be in Y for the HKG-SIN segment and it would still be several hundred more than BR), but even with $350 off, Z is going to be too expensive for me, I think :(.

Dr. PITUK

Always same equipment or choice thereof...plus booked seats. Doesn't matter what fare you are on. They can also hold multiple itins for a while.

She will never let me get stuck anywhere and has literally worked some bizarro stuff:

I had the last Y seat on KGLBRU on SN (overnight about 8 hour flight). Was the only way out of Rwanda for me. She noted in my file that I'm SE on AC and that I wanted J. After boarding the GA came and got me and moved me up to J. Still no idea how that happened on a $600 one way Y fare.

Give her a call/email if ya want, she is happy to help no matter what, irrelevant of where you are based:

Maria at Omega Travel
[email protected]
604 738-7161

ylwae Aug 7, 2013 8:53 pm


Originally Posted by sweden05 (Post 21233816)
Just about to book YOW-TPE flights for myself and 5 colleagues.

I choose to avoid AC TPAC almost always. There are more pleasant options on airlines whose staff at least pretend to appreciate your business.

KenHamer Aug 7, 2013 9:02 pm

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Originally Posted by hydrogen

Originally Posted by Dorian (Post 21233910)
My TA that has agreements with 22 airlines always has a lower fare, for the same fare class.

I just booked YVR PVG YYZ YOW YVR, travel completed over 7 days. She got me in Z for $350 less than any Z I could find.

Return as PVG-YYZ-YOW-YVR? Ouch. Painful.



Originally Posted by sweden05 (Post 21233896)
Booking is for mid September, so a bit over a month in advance.

If load is high, AC probably doesn't care if you're not paying the Flex surcharge. Bums will still fill the seat.

Flex bums?


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