Choosing to avoid AC on TPAC again...
Aug 13, 2013, 7:33 pm
#91
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Yes, but there is also a rule against peripheral devices, which would cover off a wired mouse even if it doesn't receive or transmit. I'm speculating, but I'd expect the rule against peripheral devices is due to safety in the event of an evacuation (e.g. if you have laptops with a bunch of wired devices connected, it presents a potential hazard for tripping/tangling).
Aug 13, 2013, 8:47 pm
#92
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lol I really don't mind paying $500 extra to fly from Canada, and I live in New York. Reasons why are a) more miles ; b) some of the hottest FAs I've had have been on AC, though it seems most SD's are now men (smfh); c) better chance of upgrading on AC; etc. The most important factor is #3.
As I stated, the likelihood of a delay or cancellation on my routings is higher if I connect through the USA. I value my time, and I have better things to do than to waste 2 hours at LAX standing in line. I don't like the chaos at AC's US transfer hubs. Have you looked at some of the ridiculous connection times AC connections to United out of Chicago give? I don't want to have to run between terminals. The flights are almost always late arriving in Chicago, and that 50 minute - 90 minute transfer time, can shrink to 20 minutes. I have never missed a connection when using Canada on my long hauls. It works for me. If you enjoy the US airport experience, then knock yourself out. In any case, I'd rather AC's B777 seating configuration in business than the sardine can layout on United. How anyone tolerates the 4 abreast J cabin on United is for another thread.
Aug 13, 2013, 9:33 pm
#93
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I don't like long lines and I don't like unnecessary aggravation when I travel.
As I stated, the likelihood of a delay or cancellation on my routings is higher if I connect through the USA. I value my time, and I have better things to do than to waste 2 hours at LAX standing in line. I don't like the chaos at AC's US transfer hubs. Have you looked at some of the ridiculous connection times AC connections to United out of Chicago give? I don't want to have to run between terminals. The flights are almost always late arriving in Chicago, and that 50 minute - 90 minute transfer time, can shrink to 20 minutes. I have never missed a connection when using Canada on my long hauls. It works for me. If you enjoy the US airport experience, then knock yourself out. In any case, I'd rather AC's B777 seating configuration in business than the sardine can layout on United. How anyone tolerates the 4 abreast J cabin on United is for another thread.
As I stated, the likelihood of a delay or cancellation on my routings is higher if I connect through the USA. I value my time, and I have better things to do than to waste 2 hours at LAX standing in line. I don't like the chaos at AC's US transfer hubs. Have you looked at some of the ridiculous connection times AC connections to United out of Chicago give? I don't want to have to run between terminals. The flights are almost always late arriving in Chicago, and that 50 minute - 90 minute transfer time, can shrink to 20 minutes. I have never missed a connection when using Canada on my long hauls. It works for me. If you enjoy the US airport experience, then knock yourself out. In any case, I'd rather AC's B777 seating configuration in business than the sardine can layout on United. How anyone tolerates the 4 abreast J cabin on United is for another thread.
Since it's not my money financing said airports, I will happily use them.
I will NOT gain Canadian citizenship and not use the rights associated with it (which is why I bothered to get it in the first place, other than my parents demanding I get it.)
Aug 13, 2013, 9:35 pm
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The rule is rubbish anyways, and I don't follow it unless directly instructed to by a FA, and I am still alive.
Aug 13, 2013, 9:37 pm
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No longer the same - YQ now applies on US-originating flights. For a while after they "fixed" the YQ problem one could buy cheap Tango Plus tickets out of the US when Tango had been initiated to Asia, but they fixed that too.
Aug 14, 2013, 2:15 am
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See, but that's a positive for some people because you can make the connecting flight but your suitcase won't. I've had two delayed baggage claims through ORD in the last couple years which to me = $1000 in insurance money for buying new clothing and then getting my suitcase back the following day, or the day after.
Aug 14, 2013, 2:50 am
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AC fares TPAC to PEK are now a often a tad cheaper than going to PVG, finally some adjustment to competition on that route... So I guess we need to see Shenzhen Air or China Eastern or China Southern put a direct route to Toronto and we might finally get more rational pricing on these legs.... But then again, I'm probably just being hopeful...
Aug 14, 2013, 2:52 am
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Maybe they don't like your "perfume" either.
Aug 14, 2013, 2:57 am
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I make no secret of my fondness for EVA, However, the introduction of Royal Laurel service on the YYZ-TPE route has been accompanied by fare increases, particularly in business class. The end result is that AC is competitive. I am off to Asia in a couple weeks. I purchased my Z class ticket on AC for approx. $1000 less than on EVA. I have to purchase a couple more RTs and the fare differential is the same, with AC offering a slightly better schedule. Yes, EVA offers a superior inflight experience, with its pre-order meals, much better sleeping pod, helpful ground staff, amazingly fast baggage service, superior wine list and higher quality FAs, but it is pricing itself out of the market for travelers like me. I could fly for even less if I wanted to subject myself to a transfer in a US hub. However, I refuse to fly via the USA whenever possible. I don't have a problem paying more because I know that a transfer through the USA increases the chances of a missed connection or flight delay and subjects me to the belligerent and rude US homeland and TSA security experience. No matter how awful YYZ is, it is always less awful than JFK/EWR/LAX/ORD. The $500 premium on average I pay to fly via Canada is worth it.
the only thing to watch for on AC is change fees. they can kill you if you are on a trip that could require a change in plans.
Aug 14, 2013, 10:27 am
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Aug 15, 2013, 7:20 am
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Aug 15, 2013, 8:26 am
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