Choosing to avoid AC on TPAC again...
#61
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Point B - said shirt can easily be replaced by a $8 Polo shirt in BKK
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I agree with this too, although if I were willing to wear $20 shirts, I would look at it as a possible expense in case those careless TSA people decide to destroy my shirt. Hence my desire not to travel via the US if not necessary.
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I'm sure you have many leather-bound books and your apartment smells of rich mahogany.
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Back on topic, slowly people are waking up, I worked with a few small/medium businesses this spring to educate them on AC Tango and scamcharges, and in most cases people have ditched AC and never looked back.
Only ones that seem stuck are the poor saps who fly lots of domestics.
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I don't get why anyone cares about this. I have $5 shirts and I have $800 shirts. $800 suits and $5000 suits. Two trips ago I bought $1 socks and underwear (Rwanda with no luggage).
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I make no secret of my fondness for EVA, However, the introduction of Royal Laurel service on the YYZ-TPE route has been accompanied by fare increases, particularly in business class. The end result is that AC is competitive. I am off to Asia in a couple weeks. I purchased my Z class ticket on AC for approx. $1000 less than on EVA. I have to purchase a couple more RTs and the fare differential is the same, with AC offering a slightly better schedule. Yes, EVA offers a superior inflight experience, with its pre-order meals, much better sleeping pod, helpful ground staff, amazingly fast baggage service, superior wine list and higher quality FAs, but it is pricing itself out of the market for travelers like me. I could fly for even less if I wanted to subject myself to a transfer in a US hub. However, I refuse to fly via the USA whenever possible. I don't have a problem paying more because I know that a transfer through the USA increases the chances of a missed connection or flight delay and subjects me to the belligerent and rude US homeland and TSA security experience. No matter how awful YYZ is, it is always less awful than JFK/EWR/LAX/ORD. The $500 premium on average I pay to fly via Canada is worth it.
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I don't have a problem paying more because I know that a transfer through the USA increases the chances of a missed connection or flight delay and subjects me to the belligerent and rude US homeland and TSA security experience.
The $500 premium on average I pay to fly via Canada is worth it.
The $500 premium on average I pay to fly via Canada is worth it.
They get broken down into two groups:
a) Those who aren't paying for their own tickets, or
b) Those who have frail, delicate egos and want to avoid being offended.
For $500, I'm sure I can find someone to come to your house and act polite to you. Especially Jarusoba... I'm sure his mansion is opulent, the doorknob is pure gold, and the toilet is hewn from virgin marble.
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I don't know folks. I'm seeing folks say "Oh, I don't mind paying extra!"
They get broken down into two groups:
a) Those who aren't paying for their own tickets, or
b) Those who have frail, delicate egos and want to avoid being offended.
For $500, I'm sure I can find someone to come to your house and act polite to you. Especially Jarusoba... I'm sure his mansion is opulent, the doorknob is pure gold, and the toilet is hewn from virgin marble.
They get broken down into two groups:
a) Those who aren't paying for their own tickets, or
b) Those who have frail, delicate egos and want to avoid being offended.
For $500, I'm sure I can find someone to come to your house and act polite to you. Especially Jarusoba... I'm sure his mansion is opulent, the doorknob is pure gold, and the toilet is hewn from virgin marble.
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Wait never mind, I just realized, most AC flights are cheaper if you start in the US than from Canada. So I'm just paying a bit more than UA - but for Trans Atlantic AC is usually the cheapest, though in Tango, Flex is slightly more. That is all.
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Works well for me
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I don't know if it's the same still, but in 2011 I avoided the fuel surcharge by flying: LAX-YVR-SYD-YVR-YYC, which was more than $600 in savings, and easily offset the $200 positioning flight to LAX.
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For Earn Your Wings, I was able to cut about $70 off my itinerary by leaving from LAX instead of SFO, and I got a couple extra badges. The positioning flight was $60.
So definitely not as good as your example, but I think you were able to combine both "US is cheap" and "LAX is cheap".
That being said, the next time I need to go somewhere, I'll definitely check LAX
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While a bit OT, the discussion/satire of wealth did remind me of a friend who one had his housemate convinced that at his home they only had diamond toilets. Evidence by when he clarified "actually only diamond-studded" and the reaction was relief, because said housemate had kept trying to picture a solid diamond toilet and it was bothering him so much that the idea of diamond-studded was so much more believable.