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AC's update on WiFi installation progress:

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...ard/wi-fi.html


Detailed WiFi roll-out info compiled by FTers:

Planes with WiFi:
  • CR9 (all legacy CRAs - FINS 701-716)
  • E75
  • E90
  • 319 (mainline and rouge)
  • 320
  • 7M8 - FIN 501, 503, 505, 506, 507, 508, 510, 511, 518, 521
  • 321 (mainline and rouge)
  • 333 - FIN 934, 935
  • 763 Rouge- FIN 631, 633, 634, 635, 636, 639, 642, 645, 646, 656, 657, 658, 676, 677
  • 77W
  • 77L - FIN 701, 702, 703, 705, 706
  • 789** - FIN 831, 832, 833, 834, 835, 836, 837, 838, 839, 840, 841, 842, 847, 850, 851

BOLD fin #s above were provided by AC and have not yet been verified by FTers

Remaining planes without WiFI not on either list above:
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Old Apr 16, 13, 9:54 pm
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On-Board WIFI

I know that AC has or had WIFI from YYZ to LAX once you cross the US boarder. I also heard rumours that WIFI was supposed to be coming to canada but TSB and Nav Canada were not allowing WIFI in Canadian Airspace.

Any insights?
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Old Apr 16, 13, 10:45 pm
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Never heard of that one. Wifi is available in Canadian airspace, but only within range of a US transmitting tower. The lack of wifi availability in Canada has more to do with the cost of setting up ground stations in such a vast country as opposed to regulatory requirements. The TSB has nothing to do with it, since their job is to investigate aircraft accidents.
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Old Apr 17, 13, 2:47 am
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Never heard of that one. Wifi is available in Canadian airspace, but only within range of a US transmitting tower. The lack of wifi availability in Canada has more to do with the cost of setting up ground stations in such a vast country as opposed to regulatory requirements. The TSB has nothing to do with it, since their job is to investigate aircraft accidents.
checkout this webpage
http://www.aircanada.com/en/offers/a...ifi_sep09.html
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Old Apr 17, 13, 4:18 am
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A very quick Google search found this:

http://gogoair.mediaroom.com/2012-08...ty-over-Canada

End of the year.
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Old Apr 17, 13, 8:14 am
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It's not route specific but fin specific - 280 & 282. On transborder flights or where WiFi connectivity is available.
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Old Apr 17, 13, 10:33 am
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Originally Posted by briantoronto View Post
A very quick Google search found this:

http://gogoair.mediaroom.com/2012-08...ty-over-Canada

End of the year.
Cool

Or maybe not. Without wifi, I watch movies on my tablet. With wifi, I might be inclined to work
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Old Apr 17, 13, 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by canadiancow View Post
Cool

Or maybe not. Without wifi, I watch movies on my tablet. With wifi, I might be inclined to work
I would rather give up a few hours of quiet to landing after a 7am YYZ-YVR to 50 emails waiting
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Old Apr 17, 13, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by wirez666 View Post
The lack of wifi availability in Canada has more to do with the cost of setting up ground stations in such a vast country as opposed to regulatory requirements. The TSB has nothing to do with it, since their job is to investigate aircraft accidents.
And then you have Luftansa, that use satellites instead of ground stations - so that you can have internet over the Atlantic long-haul

http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...en&cid=1000204
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Old Apr 24, 13, 6:09 am
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Globe says Air Canada quietly introduces WiFi

Wednesday April 24 2013 - In the News

Also WestJet Airlines Ltd (C:WJA) In the News

The Globe and Mail reports in its Wednesday edition that many Canadian business travellers do not know that WiFi may be available on a limited basis. In a Globe special, David Israelson quotes Air Canada spokesman Peter Fitzpatrick as saying: "We put WiFi on two aircraft as a test to measure customer reaction a few years ago and those two aircraft are the only ones we have that are WiFi-equipped. Neither WestJet nor Porter offer it as yet. Meanwhile, U.S. airlines are rolling out cross-country WiFi this year. They have been gradually expanding their services since American Airlines began offering it five years ago. In the United States, in-sky Internet seems to be catching on. With prices to go online in the air ranging from $12 (U.S.) to $20 (U.S.), it is still only being used by a minority of travellers. "What we're seeing is that usage rate is around 15 per cent," says Henry Harteveldt, a travel industry analyst with Hudson Crossing LLC in San Francisco. Some travellers say they're confused by the flight attendants' command to "turn off hand-held devices" at takeoff, only to hear that it's okay to turn them on again, for a fee. In-flight WiFi is available to passengers only above 10,000 feet.

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Old Apr 24, 13, 7:34 am
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The $12 - $20 figure seems a bit off, as I just paid $4.95 for Internet on US Airways between Toronto and Charlotte (2 hours) which I thought was reasonable.
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The $12 - $20 figure seems a bit off, as I just paid $4.95 for Internet on US Airways between Toronto and Charlotte (2 hours) which I thought was reasonable.
And if they said "$5 - $20", you'd have a ton of people complaining "it's $20 on my 12 hours of flights!"

They're much better off over-quoting the price, and leaving you pleasantly surprised.
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Old Apr 27, 13, 11:06 am
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Never heard of that one. Wifi is available in Canadian airspace, but only within range of a US transmitting tower. The lack of wifi availability in Canada has more to do with the cost of setting up ground stations in such a vast country as opposed to regulatory requirements. The TSB has nothing to do with it, since their job is to investigate aircraft accidents.
Finally found this quote I read regarding NavCanada:
"Due to a set of rather archaic laws governing electronics emission from within planes, NavCan doesn’t currently allow for in flight WiFi on planes travelling within Canada. This naturally limits the market for a Canadian airline that wants to offer additional in flight services to their customers. Luckily, the folks south of the border are a bit more open about such things and Air Canada’s WiFi usually gets turned on the second the flight crosses the 49th parallel. "
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Old Apr 27, 13, 11:45 am
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Originally Posted by danapop View Post
Finally found this quote I read regarding NavCanada:
"Due to a set of rather archaic laws governing electronics emission from within planes, NavCan doesn’t currently allow for in flight WiFi on planes travelling within Canada. This naturally limits the market for a Canadian airline that wants to offer additional in flight services to their customers. Luckily, the folks south of the border are a bit more open about such things and Air Canada’s WiFi usually gets turned on the second the flight crosses the 49th parallel. "
how does this make any sense? Transport Canada is the only one that sets regulatory structure and direction in Canada. Everyone else (including airlines) complies with these in the execution of their business.
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Old Apr 27, 13, 12:46 pm
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No clue... I knew I read it someone. What NavCanada not have any control over ground to air wavelengths?? I am assuming the law has been updated to allow Gogo to come to Canada. But you know how it is with goverment agencies.
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Old Apr 27, 13, 1:11 pm
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The comments that danapop quoted are not correct, as you suggest. Industry Canada is the regulatory authority with respect to frequency spectrum use in Canada and hasn't anything to do with NavCanada, the air traffic service provider. The air-ground frequency spectrum in Canada was subject to a public auction in 2009 and the successful company was SkySurf Canada.

SkySurf wins licence, wants inflight Internet to take off in Canadian skies - 15 June 2009

In 2010, they issued a press release indicating that they had partnered with Aircell to provide inflight WiFi in Canada by the end of 2011:

SKYSURF AND AIRCELL TO COLLABORATE IN LAUNCHING FIRST-EVER INFLIGHT INTERNET SERVICES IN CANADA - 4 November 2010

Obviously, this has yet to happen and then in August of 2012, there was another "new" announcement saying basically the same thing - that GoGo (formerly Aircell) had partnered with SkySurf and will begin offering inflight WiFi in Canada by the end of 2013:

Canada clears Wi-Fi in the skies with Gogo plan approval - 28 August 2012

Then, in March of this year, it was announced that GoGo Biz will be available to business aircraft over Canada in the first quarter of 2014:

Aircell Announces Expected Coverage Areas for Gogo Biz In-Flight Internet in Canada - 26 March 2013

All that to say that inflight WiFi is coming to Canada ... someday ... probably ...
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